and the guy who posted above me, daveb

think about what you're saying. we're in a position as people when we have to applaud a violent show of force and infliction of maximum pain on a peaceful group of people, just because the techniques don't leave lasting marks, and just because it "could have been worse" if the police just starting beating everyone

it's the same thing. it's control, force, and physical punishment. how can you rest easy even considering that police can be trigger-happy to try out new control techniques?

the police are out of control, totally out of control, except when a crowd VASTLY outnumbers them.

i've never seen a police response to a group/crowd situation where the police had any concern whatsoever to serve and protect ANYBODY. anybody except an administration scared of losing their 6-figure salaries, and that sort of people.

the police aren't on your side and someday you'll be getting dragged away, beaten, or chokeholded. or maybe they'll just rub mace or pepperspray in your eyes.

it's sickening. and anybody who thinks that anything the police did was somehow consummate or appropriate considering what was happening is out of their mind.

so a group of people are being loud-- let's choke them, mace them, and gouge their pressure points?

that's sick, and the society is sick.