Robert wrote: "I do not mean to diminish the truly horrendous situation at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo.."

But you did. You just want to "shock and awe" the SC IMC readers with these infantile comparisons. Please desist.

Robert wrote: "Shoot the messenger, Vinny, if you must (again), but let's amplify the message."

Yes, it is important that the UC administrators used violence to achieve thier goals, but I maintain, that part of the story is not lost on anyone. However, many have questioned out loud, "what's the point of tent U?"

So then, Robert, what, exactly is the message? All you can see is the police violence, which I view as a sidebar distraction to the *real* story.

IMHO, the message is that the UC pays its workers shit wages. Tuition is going up, while class sizes also expand, and courses like journalism, are being dumped in favor military research. I think I DID amplify that message, Robert.

What have you done, sycophant? Aside from latching onto, *yet another protest* you had nothing to do with organizing, and try to steer it? Nothing.