Scooter's points are well taken. We agree that over all the picture looks bleak. And all the factors that Scooter mentions are totally true. Scary in fact. Chemtrails are not a distraction though, in that context. They are even very directly effecting us. We agree on the insanity of all the factors mentioned. No doubt. So actually, while it may appear we are fighting, in the larger picture, we are not. All of us are overwhelmed by the unfortunate situation on this planet from all angles. The Chemtrail issue just happens to be one that is little known by even those who agree on virually everything else. That is one of the strange and erie aspects of it. That they have gotten away with it for these past 5 years, even from those who adamantly appose the destruction of everything we hold sacred and valuable by these corperate fascists who are running our country. Our enemy is not each other, that is for sure. Our differences in the larger picture, politically, are so very small. The current cabal's policies of destruction of all aspects of sanity both in regard to foreign policy, environment, health care, domestic "security" and everything else we are in total agreement with.

The Chemtrail Operation is a covert operation. These sickos are very good at doing covert operations. They have had lot's of practice over many years, as we all know.

The things that we DO know that they have done, are frightening and insane. They demonstrate an agenda that is the definition of evil. So many of their "operations" we do not even find out about for years, sometimes decades. By that time we are distracted with the current drama or nightmare, whatever that may be, and those past things are delegated to the realm of history. They hide all kinds of shit from us. I can't even imagine what they have done, or are doing right now that we don't even know about. What we do know about is frightening enough. But we know there is more.
Not that we need it to be clear on how we feel about these "leaders" or where we wish we could send them. We already have enough information to know, individually within ourselves, how we feel about the way they are taking this beautiful planet.

The Chemtrail Operation is one of the black opps. And it is a massive one. Sometimes something is so big, so much in front of our face, that we don't even see it. The Chemtrail operation is like that.

Honestly, if it were just a few fringy folks talking about this chemtrail thing, it wouldn't be worth the ink on this screen (so to speak), or the "bandwidth" as a previous poster said. Agreed.

And with a black, covert opp. where they are hiding and denying it's existance, it makes it all the harder.

So, for a moment, let's put down our fighting spirit, and our need to be right, and make the other wrong, and whatever else may be comming up for us individually on the Chemtrail issue, and consider this:

There is just far too much evidence from all over the country to dismiss this. Way too much. It's easy to want to put each other down, and call each other names, and so on. That's really kid's stuff, and doesn't get us very far.

So, here's the challange for the thoughtfull reader, including Van, and any others who still don't believe that the Chemtrail issue has merit.

We have a website. It is pretty simple right now, with not much bells and whistles etc. but it's got some interesting stuff on it. One of the things that was recently put up are direct links to several other sites. There are various theories on these sites, and even a very questionable (to say the least, wanting to get this out of the way now) link to a "cloud buster" or something. We do not buy all of the ideas, theories etc presented, but there is so much testamonial from so many places, and so many people, over several years, that it is just not fair or possible to blow it off.

We may all be a little "fringy" in the public eye here in Santa Cruz, from the perspective of the rest of the country. We're known for it! And that's why were here. Cause we're a little different! That's a good thing, and that's why we love Santa Cruz. We love being different, and I'll bet we all agree on that.

So let's step out of Santa Cruz, for a journey into the hearts and minds of many many people from all over the "rest" of the country who have something to say about chemtrails.

Go to our simple site: www.skyhighway.com/~chemtrails
and start out veiwing the photos that some of our members have taken over the recent weeks. Just to get a glimpse of what is happening in our own skies.

Then, at the bottom are several links to some other sites. The rense site and others have tons of imformation from all over.

Use your intelligence here. And, hopefully we've agreed to put on hold for a time our bickering mentality, and really see, what is going on here.

Are ALL these people just "crackpots"? Are all these photos bogus? Are all the testamonials and the vast amount of information that is shared all total crap? Is it just a cooincidene that the trails and the planes and the patterns and the health effects and the concern that is happening all over the place is so similar?

Just sit with it. Don't knee jerk respond to this post, just this once. Really check the links.
Take a deep breath, and let the childish fighting mode go for just a little. We can always come back to it later!

Anyone reading this is invited onto this process.

_www.skyhighway.com/~chemtrails

take the time. go through the links. some of it will be absurd, some far out, some whatever, but over all my hypothesis is that there is far too much evidence to call this a hoax.

I'll leave it at that for now.

We have a common enemy, and it is NOT each other.

Let's now give a thoughful and thorough check in to the volume of information that is presented.

Thank you for you time.