Response to Un Sandanista: First, I don't find this exchange to be "sad". It seems to me to be a vigorous debate over a hot-button issue and is healthy in a democracy. You learn more from people you disagree with than those you agree with. What you are sad about, it that we are not all united in our villification of the Israelis.

Please read the history of 1947-48. When the British partitioned the Palestine Mandate, they divided Palestine into an Arab Country (Jordan) and a Jewish country (Israel). Then, in 1947 they divided Israel AGAIN into an Arab State (Palestine) and a Jewish state (Israel). The Arabs rejected the State of Palestine and instead declared war on the Israelis.

From this history you conclude "that a brutal, racist, colonial power chose to ignore a long and complex history of several peoples and just deemed the land to now be (sic) Isreal." That "colonial power" at the time was the United Nations. Unless your conclusion is that the Jewish people don't deserve a state at all in the mideast, you are babbling nonsense. And since that nonsense villifies the Jewish State of Israel, then you are just another anti-semite.

Note to everyone: Why don't you post your real names? Dont you think you are acting cowardly? If your opinions and ideas can stand the light of day, why not post your real name and e-mail address.