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Ward Churchill at CSUMB 5.2.05

Audio and photos from Ward Churchill's May 2nd 2005 talk at California State University Monterey Bay.
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Churchill spoke for more than two hours at an event organized by MeCHA de CSUMB.
Outside there were competing displays of support and disgust for Churchill.
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Some supporters poked fun at the recent controversy
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While some took it quite seriously.

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He discussed recent attacks on his scholarship, patriotism, heritage, and writing and the essay that has caused so much controversy [ read it at www.darknightpress.org/index.php ].

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Continuing the talk, he outlines U.$. Policy, foreign and domestic, victims of said policies; American Exceptionalism, Educational system.
 
 


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A protest organized to counter Churchill's presence on campus saw counterprotesters and an interesting entry into the University Center Ballroom for Churchill's talk
 

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KION coverage

KION tv showed a counter-demonstator who hit a pro-Churchill supporter on the head with her sign. He accused her of assault, but I don't know if any charges were filed. I had to laugh when I saw that her sign said "The Truth Hurt!"

As for Churchill himself, I find him a blowhard and a fraud. He presented himself as a minority (a Native American) but apparently that is not true.

He pontificates but is sadly uninformed for a tenured University professor. I'm sorry he got such a good turnout.

I do not agree with his thesis that the people deserved to die on 9/11. This was an attack on innocent civilians and should be condemned by anyone who supports peace, human rights, or justice.
 

As usual, BJ, doesn't cite any sources

BJ: "He presented himself as a minority (a Native American) but apparently that is not true."

Would you like to cite a source for this crap?
 

Becky Johnson; Another Ann Coulter

What??????? At least Coulter is grossly entertaining with her vile language. But she uses the same illogical reasoning that pervades BJ's stupid post here.

yo, bj, Churchill does NOT say they deserved to die in the towers. He SAID given the fact of US imperialism and destruction it was inevitable that death and destruction would come home to roost on the US.

And get this bj, it will continue to come home until we chage our ways.

Does it sink in yet?
 

Re: Ward Churchill at CSUMB 5.2.05

does anyone know if Ward is speaking anywhere else in the bay area this week? the east bay/SF perhaps? i'd love to know. thanks
 

Churchill Challenges, while BJ Blabbers

BJ:
>He presented himself
>as a minority (a Native
>American) but apparently
>that is not true."

Since I know you're a big fan of maintaining racial purity, Becky, maybe you'd like to share how you came to that conclusion?

>He pontificates but
>is sadly uninformed....
>I do not agree with his
>thesis that the people
>deserved to die on 9/11.

Ironic that in one sentence you should accuse Churchill of being uninformed, and then only a couple sentences later, show us once again that you are totally ignorant of his thesis. Where do you get your bonehead disinformation from? (Oh, yeah, NationalFrontpage, the magazine for fascist ideologues.)
 

Re: Ward Churchill at CSUMB 5.2.05

Churchill is and has been associated with the American Indian Movement (AIM) and they have considered him part of their community and a spokesman for their struggle. I don't see what the issue is - it's always bad to challenge a person's self-identification.
 

Re: Ward Churchill at CSUMB 5.2.05

Actually this what American Indian Movement (AIM) thinks of Churchill:

aimsupport.org/aim-blog/aim-blogger.html


And here is what I've written on the subject:

The Outrageous Statements of Ward Churchill
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Re: Ward Churchill at CSUMB 5.2.05

Information about arguments around Ward Churchill's "ethnicity" can be found here:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ward_Churchill

What does his ethnicity have to do with anything anyways? Why are people so obsessed with race? It seems there are some Native Americans that support him and some that don't. Outsiders have no role in the conversation.
 

what is so bad about what he said?

chickens coming home to roost. it's what mx said about kennedy and ward suggests that we shouldn't be surprised about terrorism finally making its way to US soil given US policy and actions around the world. What's so surprising about this? That US policy and actions create animosity in some towards us? Forget who actually did 911 or that Bin Laden is Bush's boy or that 911 might have been a plot by Israel or CIA or a bunch of angry arabs. The fact that US has used its power to crush people in the world in the name of corporate profit and pax americana is likely to bring about a violent response. What is so novel about this idea, even the right wing and anti-terror agencies know this.
 

good germans vs good americans

once again the left suffers ADD and forgets the crux of the debate. forget whether ward is supported by AIM or Avon. Forget whether ward is really native american or latvian. I don't care. Tell me what the difference between the good germans in WWII vs. the good americans now. We have demonized not only the nazis but the german people (and the french) for actively supporting, quietly supporting, actively ignoring, the evils committed upon millions from 1935-1945. How are american citizens any less culpable. I'm not saying that 911 was justified (in a moral sense) but if one is coming from the perspective of fighting (which I would imagine terrorists are) then wouldn't wards comments make logical sense? we might wish that the world was nonviolent, we might wish that people who dislike america or american policy would sit around and process their feelings of deep resentment in a consensus circle, but not everyone in the world is socialized this way. please, someone, critique the arguement here and forget attacking the messenger!
 

For Once Becky is Right

Anyone who asks her to "cite her sources" in this thread obviously have not done any reading. It has been widely discussed throughout the left press how American Indians themselves have exposed his pretensions to being an Indian...just to grab that juicy $90,000 per year salaray...CHurchill, known collaborater with Eliot Abrams, Robert K Brown's SOldier of Fortune...it is pathetic that these people are just blowing hot air having done no reading on the topic...
 

Right WING that is

Becky is always RIGHT... wing that is, cause she is NOT a leftist, no matter what she thinks...
 

Re: Ward Churchill at CSUMB 5.2.05

Labels "left,leftist,leftwing and lefty" are stupid and obsolete. Only Ed Shultz uses the latter. And Becky, poor soul, is the only person I have ever heard use the term leftist outside of David Horowitz's Web page...means little...Borowitz compares Jimmy Carter to Mohammed Atta on the same page...too bad Becky protests that she is a "leftist" while Horowitz, her buddy Caplan's consiglierie, creates his McCarthyist web against, of all things, leftists...maybe somebody will wake up and smell the coffee...labels create more confusion than clarity.
 

Re: Ward Churchill at CSUMB 5.2.05

DISINFORMATION: Churchill is and has been associated with the American Indian Movement (AIM) and they have considered him part of their community and a spokesman for their struggle.

WRONG! THE FACTS: He splintered away. The main leadership rejects him as a poseur and a fake and a renegade.

DISINFORMATION: I don't see what the issue is -

FACT: You haven't been reading or studying the issue very hard then. It is not my job to do your research.

DISINFO: it's always bad to challenge a person's self-identification.

FACT: Duh! Is that how you would reply to say Adolph Hitler's self-identification? Other examples...
 

Ward Churchill and the United States Government War Against the American Indian Movement

AIM Council on Security and Intelligence
Press Contact: Vernon Bellecourt 612-889-0796
Email: aimggc (at) worldnet.att.net
Web Address: www.aimovement.org

November 3, 1999

United States Government War
Against the American Indian Movement

Following a lengthy twenty-five (25) year investigation of Ward Churchill, Glen Morris and their Indian and non-Indian co-conspirators, collaborators, dupes and unwitting pawns, the American Indian Movement Grand Governing Council’s Council on Security and Intelligence is releasing this lengthy report. We do so because of the continued attacks by this group of deceitful and treacherous frauds against the legitimate leadership of the American Indian Movement and of our international political and diplomatic Corp, the International Indian Treaty Council. They perpetuate these attacks by fraudulently representing themselves as being members of the American Indian Movement, and the so-called confederation of autonomous aim chapters, now using their web site to sow disruption, division and confusion.

The ringleaders of this conspiracy are two wannabees, white men masquerading as Indians, who are very deceitful and treacherous individuals by the name of Ward Churchill and Glen Morris (see Ministry for Information on Glen Morris and Russell Means, the CIA/Contra Connection). We are convinced they are the continuation of a campaign to destroy the American Indian Movement and its leadership that began in the White House office of Richard Nixon in 1972 during the Trail of Broken Treaties march on Washington D.C. in November, 1972 (see Trail of Broken Treaties Manifesto in AIM Archives; also see Council to the President, John Wesley Dean III Correspondence to Acting FBI Director W. Mark Felt under AIM's Council on Security and Intelligence Page).

Four items that should be given special attention are:

Churchill's book, Agents of Repression, page 438, item 49, reads:

"49. Author Churchill experienced one of these sweeps firsthand when, while driving across Pine Ridge on June 27, 1975, the day after the gunfight at the Jumping Bull residence that claimed the lives of AIM member Joe Stuntz and FBI agents Jack Coler and Ron Williams, he stopped to urinate alongside the road, about five miles south of Porcupine. Over the ridge came an APC, accompanied by some 20 FBI and BIA police personnel, moving "on line," carrying M-16s, and dressed in Vietnam-style jungle fatigues, boots and bush hats. Most of the group was also wearing military-issue flack-jackets. Needless to say, the whole scene afforded a sense of deja-vu to the viewer, given that he had spent a year in Southeast Asia in combat."

Churchill further states that he served in Vietnam as an Information Specialist. We say, misinformation specialist.

The second item is an interview conducted with Churchill by Amy Goodman and Bernard White of Radio Pacifica and Station WBAI 99.5 FM, New York City. Again, these are Churchill's own words:

"Well, in 1969, after I came out of the Army, I was a draftee and sent to Vietnam. I came back from that a little bit irritated of the posture of my government. I'm also an American Indian and I was sent to Southeast Asia to uphold a treaty, which did not require that I be there. I considered it a fact before I even left there that while I was over there that, the United States was in the process of standing in complete violation of 371 odd treaties that were on record with my people or related peoples right here in North America. If we’re going to be busy enforcing treaties, it ought to home, not over there.
With that perspective, I became politically active and had a roommate, at least part of the time, in Peoria, Illinois, which is where I’m originally from. His name was Mark Clark. Mark was a downstate defense captain for the Black Panther Party in Illinois, where in December 1969, he was the first person killed in an armed raid on an apartment on Monroe Street in Chicago, which also took the life by assassination of the chairman of the Illinois Panthers, Fred Hampton. That, I guess you can say, caught my attention. And since there were clear indications from the onset of direct FBI involvement in that, and since there was a clear attempt made to cover that up, I became active in the effort to bring out the information of exactly how the murders of Hampton and Clark had occurred.
And one thing followed another from there. I became involved in the Leonard Peltier case. After I joined the American Indian Movement, a couple of years after the point that I'm talking about here."
(See Churchill File, Council on Security and Intelligence).
This is no coincidence. Our investigations show that the FBI raid on the Jumping Bull residence, which sparked the firefight that led to the deaths of FBI agents, Jack Coler and Ron Williams, and AIM member Joe Stuntz, was, in fact, a botched FBI job caused by agents/informants of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), and/or other military and intelligence agencies that may well have instigated the shootout or, at least, were in and about the Jumping Bull community. FBI agent informants were no doubt also involved in the death of Anna Mae Aquash. The fact is, Fred Hampton, Mark Clark, agents Jack Coler and Ron Williams, and AIM member, Joe Stuntz, and Anna Mae Aquash are dead, and our brother, Leonard Peltier remains in prison after 23 years.


The third item is the blatant manipulation of Peter Mathieson, Oliver Stone, CBS and 60-Minutes, regarding the "Mr. X" hoax, which was orchestrated by David Hill, Bob Robideaux, and Ward Churchill. (See Dino Butler article published in News from Indian Country, May 1995). In the article Dino states, "There is no Mr. X. There was no white man coming to our camp that day bringing dynamite. Those are all lies created to keep Leonard in jail longer." (See Council on Security and Intelligence, Churchill File).

You may also see Jodi Rave interview of Ward Churchill in November of 1993 at Boulder, Colorado, specifically the last three paragraphs on page two (2) which continues to page three (3).

"Question: That must have changed just recently?
Answer: Yes, about three years ago, the name of the university, it was still a college then. So I agreed to teach some extension courses for them. I thought that once I would do that, and at Loneman School on Pine Ridge I would do some workshops there ... but what they assigned me to do was to teach the police force in Rapid City.
Question: Oh, really?
Answer: Yah, the guys were taking courses on weekends and shit, so they could make their rank. It was a money maker for the school. I needed the money. I was teaching the Rapid City Police Department about the American Indian Movement."

For those of you that have visited our web site, aimovement.org, see the remarkable progress that the legitimate leadership of the American Indian Movement Grand Governing Council, the International Indian Treaty Council, the National Coalition on Racism in Sports and Media, and all of our other projects listed on our web site have accomplished; work that continues over a thirty-year period of time.
On the other hand, this group of detractors have done nothing for the Indian people, or for humankind in general. Everything they have done is self-serving to put money in their pockets, be it their revisionist writings, lectures, movies, etc., while they continue their campaign and attempts to divide and destroy the American Indian Movement.


There is so much more information that we can share with you that is in this report. Everything that is represented in this Press Statement and following report entitled, The United States Government’s War Against the American Indian Movement are factual based in part on our careful review of the first of 17,722 pages of declassified documents from various U.S. government agencies under the Freedom of Information Act (FOI).

Additionally, it is based on a twenty-five year investigation by the Council on Security & Intelligence, and the conspirator’s and collaborator’s own words, writings, representations, and as important, their actions. (See Council on Security and Intelligence, the United States Government War Against the American Indian Movement) , the role of the White House and Secret Service, Senate Judiciary Committee, Justice Department, Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), other U.S. military and intelligence agencies.

Finally, as you review the total report, we trust that you will come to the same conclusions that we have.

Vernon Bellecourt
National Representative
AIMGGC
 

Just a thought

Have any commenters listened to the May 2nd talk?

That's why it's there. Actual comments on what he has to say would be an interesting juxtaposition to the discussion taking place here.
 

attack the argument not the person

so once again all I see is how ward churchill is a pawn of the CIA or NSA or soldier of fortune or whoever. and how he's not really indian he's japanese or white or croatian or a pekinese. can one of you mistinformation specialists please address the crux of his point which was what is the difference between the good germans vs. the good americans if we hold the german people culpable for their compicity in WWII atrocities?
 

Re: Ward Churchill at CSUMB 5.2.05

Actually the American working class does not willingly give authority to the capitalist class and its government. That government and system maintains its power through lies and all kinds of coercion from economic survival to direct repressive violence against workers and others who fight back.

Likewise the German people were the first victims of the Nazis. The capitalist class of Germany put the Nazis in power to crush a rebellious working class.

Violence against the innocent people of the World Trade Center was a crime. The fact that a few of the many were not innocent in their roles with finance capital does not change this.
 

Re: Ward Churchill at CSUMB 5.2.05

"Likewise the German people were the first victims of the Nazis. The capitalist class of Germany put the Nazis in power to crush a rebellious working class."

Sorry, but your understanding of Fascism in Germany is rather narrow. The Nazi's had mass support in working class communities. Class struggle was part of it, but not even close to explaining it.
 

Osama Bin Laden is an extreme lunatic of the religious right

Sorry "anonymous poster" but what I said is still true.

1. It was a minority in the working class and the population as a whole that supported Hitler when he seized power. After, support for Hitler became compulsory and opposition prohibited. There is no way to gage Hitler’s real support beyond the time of his seizure of power.

2. Hitler could have never come to power without major backing from the capitalist class. That capitalist class placed Hitler in power to smash the mass movements of the working class.

3. Hitler's supporters included a mass movement that was largely made up of angry small business people, their disillusioned offspring, and other petty bourgeois and former petty bourgeois elements that had lost their businesses and who were caught between the rock of the failures of the capitalist system and the hard place of worker unrest, both cutting into their lively-hood.

These were the people who most believed in the racial hatred taught both by Hitler and by the capitalist system before Hitler, and who believed in fighting to defend capitalism by any means necessary. They blamed their problems on the groups targeted by Hitler and the capitalist class. As such they were well funded shock troops that were nearly given a free reign to terrorize union workers, Jews, socialists, and communists by the capitalist government even before Hitler had taken power.

Yes there were a minority of workers who were fooled into helping Hitler take power as well, but they were a minority. Many were attracted to what they saw as needed radical solutions in the face of the Social Democratic Party’s (SPD’s) inability put forward a revolutionary program. The SPD had become just another capitalist party that had supported the German capitalist class in the inter-imperialist First World War.

The fact that some workers supported Hitler does not change the fact that the fascist government was created by the capitalist class with mass support from petty bourgeois and declassed lumpen proletarian elements. Hitler’s was a government created to smash the mass movements of a rebellious working class that had nearly overthrown the capitalist government in 1920 under the revolutionary socialist leadership of Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht.

Just as the mass murder carried out against human beings on three jet planes used as missiles and other innocent victims at the World Trade Center was a crime, so was the mass murder carried out by the U.S. government against the working class of Dresden, another non-military target.

Osama Bin Laden is an extreme lunatic of the religious right who owes his entire career to the billions of dollars the U.S. provided to him in his holy war against literacy, women’s rights, and the Soviet Union in Afghanistan. Making excuses for Bin Laden’s murderous misogynists is the last thing on earth that the left and the anti-war movement should be doing.

Likewise Bin Laden’s actions have had the predictable result of bringing on more repression and war. It is mass movements based among the working class that has the potential of bringing change, not terrorism against the working class.
 

Re: Ward Churchill at CSUMB 5.2.05

Sorry "anonymous poster" but what I said is still true.

1. It was a minority in the working class and the population as a whole that supported Hitler when he seized power. After, support for Hitler became compulsory and opposition prohibited. There is no way to gage Hitler’s real support beyond the time of his seizure of power.

2. Hitler could have never come to power without major backing from the capitalist class. That capitalist class placed Hitler in power to smash the mass movements of the working class.

3. Hitler's supporters included a mass movement that was largely made up of angry small business people, their disillusioned offspring, and other petty bourgeois and former petty bourgeois elements that had lost their businesses and who were caught between the rock of the failures of the capitalist system and the hard place of worker unrest, both cutting into their lively-hood.

These were the people who most believed in the racial hatred taught both by Hitler and by the capitalist system before Hitler, and who believed in fighting to defend capitalism by any means necessary. They blamed their problems on the groups targeted by Hitler and the capitalist class. As such they were well funded shock troops that were nearly given a free reign to terrorize union workers, Jews, socialists, and communists by the capitalist government even before Hitler had taken power.

Yes there were a minority of workers who were fooled into helping Hitler take power as well, but they were a minority. Many were attracted to what they saw as needed radical solutions in the face of the Social Democratic Party’s (SPD’s) inability put forward a revolutionary program. The SPD had become just another capitalist party that had supported the German capitalist class in the inter-imperialist First World War.

The fact that some workers supported Hitler does not change the fact that the fascist government was created by the capitalist class with mass support from petty bourgeois and declassed lumpen proletarian elements. Hitler’s was a government created to smash the mass movements of a rebellious working class that had nearly overthrown the capitalist government in 1920 under the revolutionary socialist leadership of Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht.

Just as the mass murder carried out against human beings on three jet planes used as missiles and other innocent victims at the World Trade Center was a crime, so was the mass murder carried out by the U.S. government against the working class of Dresden, another non-military target.

Osama Bin Laden is an extreme lunatic of the religious right who owes his entire career to the billions of dollars the U.S. provided to him in his holy war against literacy, women’s rights, and the Soviet Union in Afghanistan. Making excuses for Bin Laden’s murderous misogynists is the last thing on earth that the left and the anti-war movement should be doing.

Likewise Bin Laden’s actions have had the predictable result of bringing on more repression and war. It is mass movements based among the working class that has the potential of bringing change, not terrorism against the working class.
 

I don't think you guys read the essay


Osama Bin Laden is an extreme lunatic of the religious right who owes his entire career to the billions of dollars the U.S. provided to him in his holy war against literacy, women’s rights, and the Soviet Union in Afghanistan. Making excuses for Bin Laden’s murderous misogynists is the last thing on earth that the left and the anti-war movement should be doing.


Where in Ward Churchills essay did he make an excuse for 9-11. The gist of the essay, "CHICKENS COMING HOME TO ROOST" warns that until the US stops using violence and stops empire building throughout the world, that people against our actions will retaliate. In other words violence begets violence. I'm still marvelling at what seems to be a rather simplistic observative is out of the grasp of some of the posters.
 

Re: Ward Churchill at CSUMB 5.2.05

Will he again reprise his role as Matthias in the remake of "Omega Man?" He was very compelling in that role, and from these photos, hasn't changed a bit since 1971.
 

Re: Ward Churchill at CSUMB 5.2.05

Anonymous poster asks, "Where in Ward Churchills essay did he make an excuse for 9-11."

Ward Churchill said of the September 11th terrorists and mass murderers:

"They did not license themselves to "target innocent civilians".

“There is simply no argument to be made that the Pentagon personnel killed on September 11 fill that bill. The building and those inside comprised military targets, pure and simple. As to those in the World Trade Center . . .?

“Well, really. Let's get a grip here, shall we? True enough, they were civilians of a sort. But innocent? Gimme a break. They formed a technocratic corps at the very heart of America's global financial empire -- the "mighty engine of profit" to which the military dimension of U.S. policy has always been enslaved – and they did so both willingly and knowingly. Recourse to "ignorance" -- a derivative, after all, of the word "ignore" -- counts as less than an excuse among this relatively well-educated elite. To the extent that any of them were unaware of the costs and consequences to others of what they were involved in -- and in many cases excelling at -- it was because of their absolute refusal to see. More likely, it was because they were too busy braying, incessantly and self-importantly, into their cell phones, arranging power lunches and stock transactions, each of which translated, conveniently out of sight, mind and smelling distance, into the starved and rotting flesh of infants. If there was a better, more effective, or in fact any other way of visiting some penalty befitting their participation upon the little Eichmanns inhabiting the sterile sanctuary of the twin towers, I'd really be interested in hearing about it.? From “Some People Push Back? Ward Churchill

Churchill, give us a break. Bin Laden was a product of billions of dollars in U.S. / CIA intervention against the people of Central Asia. He had the same disregard for human life as his CIA creators when he used planes full of civilians to murder thousands of people, including many innocent working class people at the World Trade Center.

When I went to Nicaragua in the 1980s it was ruled by a popular revolutionary government that had overcome the butchers of the U.S. imposed Samoza family and was facing the mass murder of the U.S. organized and financed Contra War. Yet I was greeted by the Nicaraguan people as a friend, not as an enemy or little Eichman of the empire as Churchill would characterize the American working class. So many people came to me to tell me that I had to go back to the United States to tell the truth because as they saw it, if the Americans truly knew what the U.S. government was doing to the people of Nicaragua, they would outraged and stop it.

An apologist for that mass murder of Nicaraguans by the CIA was Ward Churchill with his false claims against the Sandinistas.

Likewise an apologist for the mass murder of working class people at the World Trade Center was Ward Churchill.

The Sandinistas made a revolution against the murderous U.S. installed and backed Samoza dictatorship without the philosophy of Gandhi. Nonviolence against that U.S. puppet government would have only gotten them killed.

Yet tactics of violence in other than self defense, and often even in self-defense, will generally only get you killed in America at this stage in the revolution here.

Unlike Churchill in his academic Ivory Tower, the revolutionary people of Nicaragua in the 1980s knew that the American working class was a potential ally in the struggle against imperialism that needed to be convinced, not blown up. The Nicaraguans saw from their own experience under the Samoza dictatorship that governments often do not represent the people and they saw the American people’s struggle against the U.S. war of aggression in Vietnam as a possibility that could be repeated.

Unfortunately the U.S. succeeded in destroying the popular and democratically elected government of Nicaragua through a long dirty war (terrorism), blackmail of more war, and massive intervention in their elections.

Churchill was on the wrong side then and he is on the wrong side now. He is a petty bourgeois academic scoundrel that is getting publicity because of his outrageous statements while many better people in America, especially but not limited to Arabs, are loosing their jobs and being imprisoned for their beliefs.
 

what false claims against the sandinistas?

an apologist for that mass murder of Nicaraguans by the CIA was Ward Churchill with his false claims against the Sandinistas.

okay so I guess you're saying that the nicaraguan government never negatively impacted the miskito indians?
 

Re: Ward Churchill at CSUMB 5.2.05

 

The Sandinistas and the Miskito Indians

In 1986 I met with Miskito Indians that supported the Sandinistas. At that time the Miskito Indians were being granted governmental autonomy on the Atlantic Coast and the Sandinistas had recognized that they had made errors when they came into the region after the victorious revolution in 1979. Among other things the Sandinistas were carrying out literacy campaigns, vaccination campaigns against horrible diseases, and building housing in the region. The key error made was in not properly consulting the Miskito and other indigenous people in what they wanted rather than just giving them what the Sandinistas felt they needed. The regional autonomy and its localized democracy was set up to remedy these problems.

The CIA war against the Nicaraguan people caused further hardships, especially in regions near the Honduran border where the CIA’s mercenaries would carry bloody terrorist attacks and the run back to the protection of the territory under the control of the U.S. backed military dictatorship in Honduras. Relocating some people who were otherwise being killed in the middle of a war zone can hardly be considered a first step towards genocide against the Moskitos as Churchill presented it.

The Sandinistas were part of the solution, not the problem. The actual genocide against Indians taking place at that time was under the U.S. backed capitalist military government of Guatemala. There whole villages were slaughtered with U.S., Argentinean, and Israeli supplied weapons.
 

Ward Churchill is a phony

WC is a shill for the neocons, linking Iraq to 911. Same BS he pulled in the 80's.
 

Re: Ward Churchill is a phony

Linking? Yes, if you mean placing the nouns within the same sentance or pharagraph, regardles of irregular verbs.
 

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