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Cops Visit Guerilla Drive-In

Cops Visit Guerilla Drive-In!
A Harrowing Tale of Authoritarian Intervention
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Chapter 1: A Successful Benefit Belies The Coming Storm

The benefit was a roaring success. Something like 50 to 75 people came out to support Dances With Kittens and GDI on an "off" Friday. The movie was unexpectedly great. The new amp worked well. Everyone had a blast. Someone inquired about helping us financially to get a bulb or speakers (Was it you? Talk to us!)

Chapter 2: In Which The Authorities Visit Guerilla Drive-In

Now dealing with the cops is old hat for us. We've been kicked out of the Harvey West area and from under the Soquel Bridge. But we've been at the Westside railroad tracks site for two years now with no problem.

Just as the movie finished, a Santa Cruz Police officer came to tell us they'd received a noise complaint. He said that he was being "nice" and could easily ticket us for "amplified sound without a permit" and "noise after 10pm."

Chapter 3: In Which The Police Make Suggestions, We Make Like a Tree, and The Plot Thickens

The officer suggested that we get a noise permit ($33 per movie), cautioned us about being so near the tracks, etc etc. We noted that our movie was finished now and we'd soon be outta there. The officer stood around a long time flashing everyone's belongings and looking for any evidence of wrongdoing. No tickets were issued and no one was specifically harassed.

As we were putting the last of the stuff in our vehicles, and while the cop was still at the site wandering around looking for trouble, someone (not associated with GDI) vandalized the officer's car.

So the GDI collective talked about it, and bottom line we figure this might well make it harder for Guerilla Drive-In in the future, specifically this week's movie. In fact, we feel it is perfectly possible that the police may try to shut us down. We had a few things that we thought we might do to protect ourselves and maybe ensure some measure of peace from police harassment.

Chapter 4: In Which the Questions is Posed, Is The Law a Friend or a Foe?

Actually, I don't know. Seems sometimes like the laws are there to maintain the status quo and keep people in line, but I'll let you answer that question for yourself. However, it definitely helps to know your rights.

First we are on private property with permission of the land owner. We have the right to be there showing movies to our friends and community. The cops don't have a right to drop in on us without probable cause. It is as if you were in our own backyard.

Second, the amplified sound law in Santa Cruz requires you to have a permit unless the sound cannot be heard outside of private property or if it is not disturbing anyone. Third, the law regarding noise after 10pm requires you to make no loud noises after 10pm unless you are not disturbing anyone.

Chapter 5: In Which Possible Solutions Are Discussed

Well clearly, we've resolved to try our darnest to make sure we are not bothering anyone. This week, we are visiting with all of the Westside neighbors in the vicinity and inviting them to GDI and welcoming them to call us if we are being to loud or having fun at the expense of their sleep, &c. We also hope to find out if there was indeed a complaint or whether we were visited on one bored police officer's initiative.

At this Friday's movie, I'll give you an update and say a few words about our rights to be here enjoying movies together.

Chapter 6: In Which You Are Invited to Participate And We End Our Long Email

The reader is welcomed to contact us with your suggestions and to take action. What can you do?

* Talk to your neighbors, bring your kids, drag friends from out of town - show your support for GDI
* If you have a video camera, we invite you to come film any interactions we might have with the police at our next few movies.
* If you are a lawyer and a friend to GDI, we'd love to talk with you.
* Call the Santa Cruz police (420-5800) and tell them you value GDI and want them to leave us alone.
* Call the Santa Cruz City Council (420-5020) and ask them to direct the police to leave us alone. (
* Talk to us about how you can help..

So ends our harrowing tale. Thanks for being there and supporting GDI. You're great. See you on Friday.

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Re: Cops Visit Guerilla Drive-In

Before this article, I posted news and support for the brave individual who gave the cops a taste of their own medicine. Now it is gone, and this article here in its place. Why did Indimedia censor it? Where is free speech? Viva la revolucion!

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A taste of their own medicine? Yes, because tit-for-tat works so well against the people with the law on their side...

...I should hope that the GDI takes a more responsible and pragmatic approach to things.

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"Before this article, I posted news"

If you post an article from the corporate media, it needs to be acknowledged as such (i.e. the Sentinel) and published in the "Other Press" section.

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n5667 -

You say "I should hope that the GDI takes a more responsible and pragmatic approach to things."

If you read the article, you would have noticed that the GDI folks had nothing to do with the vandalism.

"As we were putting the last of the stuff in our vehicles, and while the cop was still at the site wandering around looking for trouble, someone (not associated with GDI) vandalized the officer's car. "

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obviously the the movie could be heard beyond the property, otherwise no one would have called the cops.

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The pigs are all about what you call "tit for tat". They call it "law enforcement". What's the difference? Using force to cause pain, or the threat of force to cause fear, to make someone else change what they are doing. Pigs threaten the GDI, to make it move. Unfortunately threats of slashed tires won't change their mind. You'll claim that a set of slashed tires won't change anything, but that is not true because a revolution means EVERYONE who resists.

No one protester can end a war, but an entire peace movement can! No one boycotter can bring down a trans-national corporation, but million people can. No one employee can successfully strike for a living wage, but an entire union can!

Whoever slashed those pigs' tires, WE LOVE YOU MAN! Thank you for your courage and the risk you took in standing up for our rights and the rights of GDI! Thank you for fighting BACK! If we had more people like you, things might be different.

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In response to the last post:
The "pigs" are not enemies of revolution, and they are not enemies of resistance. They are however, soldiers for the state, the only thing that stops them from being or enemies is that they are human, underneath the aviator glasses and uniforms, they live, breathe, and sometimes even care. For that reason alone, there is the off chance that if you show a "pig" your compassion, as one human to another, they will return that compassion.
I am an EMT and work closely with police, many of them are stupid and ignorant and are in fact "pigs", many are not; they are mothers and fathers and liberals who make a living by enforcing laws, whether they agree or not. I also go tp protests and have seen the brutality they are capable of, in fact my close friends have been beaten, this does make me lose respect for them, but to slash an officer's tires who has not done anything to you is simply creating an enemy out of a human being. Don''t get me wrong, I'd wouldnt have any problem with someone slashing a cops tires if that cop had been harassing them or at a protest where there was police violence, but to do it indiscriminately just makes our task as revolutionaries harder because it is a senseless act that divides us further.
"If we had more people like you, things might be different."
yeah cops would have shut it down a long time ago. How can you say thanks for "standing up for our rights"?? You dont have the right to slash any tires, much less a cops. You live in the US, you deal with the fact that we employ police to enforce the law, and yeah it sucks, but it beats the military or even worse, private militias, so just shut up and deal with it and resist in a consructive way. We can't "smash the state" as the rate we are progressing, but we can convince the soldiers of the state that we are descent people.

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You actually think that the cop was not responding to a complaint? Do you really think that the cops go out looking for loud parties and noises? If you do, it just shows how ignorant you all are. Santa Cruz has bigger problems to deal with than your gathering. A better question is to find out who complained on you. Chances are it is probabaly a hippie, dope smoking, cop hating neighbor!

Censorship Issue

I think it would be better for indymedia and for posters if editors could specify when they remove a post why that is being done. I.e. what SPECIFIC policy is being violated.

For their part, posters should recognize that overseeing indymedia is (I understand) a lot of work. Making this resource available takes time and energy and indymedia workers are to be commended for it.

However much I may disagree with some of their decisions (and on the Becky Johnson issue, for instance, I am unrelenting in my criticism of their blanket censorship), I still must salute them for making this resource available and keeping it updated.

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>If you do, it just shows
>how ignorant you all are

And apparently, Rolo, you are intimately familiar with the cops' operating procedures. How exactly did you become so well-versed in SCPD SOP (standard operating procedure)?

Former officer?

Current officer?

Or are you just talking out of your ass, as though you know something in detail, but are really just making it up?


To whomever slashed the tires:
Engaging in such acts is your choice to make, whether I agree with it or not. But if you choose to do it, at least have the decency and common sense to not cause the heat from your act to fall onto the backs of good folks who weren't involved. Duh.

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La Lucha,

It's called being an adult. I guess that's experience YOU and others lack, who think that the cops are after you for some noise complaint.

Yeah, the cops are going to formulate some great conspiracy to bring down the GDI! What a bonehead theory.

You all pissed of someone who actually lives in that neighborhood, or near it enough to hear the noise.

Get real.

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First, "we" were ignorant... now we're immature. But, see, you haven't shown us that you can do anything more than sit in front of a computer and sling pathetic insults and complaints. On the other hand, "we" are organizing events and improving our community.

Rolo, you're the only bonehead talking about conspiracies. Get a life, fool.

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improving the community by limiting an officers mobility. You are risking public safety you moron. What if he got called to a robbery, a rape, or some ones kid getting beat up by a bunch of punks just like you. keep your stupid events, if they are staffed by others just like you, we are better off not attending.

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This article by Santa Cruz Guerilla Drive-In is fantastic! It tells the stroy of what happened. It is a pleasure to read. It also allows me, the reader/commenter a chance to picture in my mind the events as they unfolded.

some people on this thread, and some people in general, are angry that there are creative people in our community. why do i say this? i say this becuase no matter what, these angry/jealous/bitter people will try to pick apart little piceces here and there in an effort to distract people from the creative energy and fresh ideas being offered to the community (and for FREE!)

santa cruz indymedia volunteers have an editorial policy and they, IMHO, do a fine job at providing a network for sharing information. some people think that this network for sharing information is an 'online free speech forum' well, it isn't. it does not claim to be and it does not aim to be. as a reader/contributor on santa cruz indymedia, i know that i can publish anytime i want, as long as i follow the -more than fair- editorial guidelines. trolls will always try to publish on santa cruz imc and other imcs. sometimes it will be 'obvious and over-the-top' type of crap, othertimes trolls will try to pose as concerned members of the community. sc-imc editorial volunteers should not be expected to take even more time to elaborate as to why every troll dropping has been hidden. this would play right into the hand of the trolls. trolls aim to disrupt. if volunteers were to explain their each and every move, then trolls would just pick this apart and find new ways to cause disruption.

people interested in improving our community are taking action all the time! join them! there are plenty of ways to get involved! plan actions in our community. become the media and publish on santa cruz imc! take a class or two through free skool santa cruz! teach a class through free skool santa cruz! donate some equipment to the Guerilla Drive-In! organize with santa cruz food not bombs!

Guerilla Drive-In and santa cruz indymedia are fine examples of taking action to improve our community. keep up the great work. thanks for such fine community resources!

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While I wholely agree with most of your comments and I do sympathize with the SC IMC editors/volunteers I have to take issue with the way this series of comments has been dealt with. My first post on this issue was removed because basically I said that it’s a shame someone felt they had to slash the tires of the cop who showed up when the city is totally broke and unnecessary expenditures such as these hurt the overall financial picture of the city gov. I don't believe this violated the stated editorial policy of the SC IMC collective, yet it was removed. It seems any defense of the po-po is a no-no. And normally I totally dislike and resist "awful-sirs" of the racist law. I just happened to feel that the action taken by the tire slasher didn't accomplish much in advancing the revolution and as such found my opinion removed from this forum. Several subsequent posts questioning why my first post was deleted were also deleted without the explanation I asked for in these posts. My post agreeing with Robert Norse was also deleted and now I'm sure that this one will be too. I love SC IMC and read it almost daily for the latest info about what's happening in my community. I'm just concerned about the right to dissent from the "popular" viewpoint or way of perceiving events and their consequences. If you don't like our posts (and only if they're not in outright and obvious violation of the editorial policy) I ask why don't you respond to them instead of removing them??? The corporate media does the same with opinions it doesn't agree with and I guess I'd just like to see SC IMC set the bar higher than that. Love you all and major respect to the webmasters, just adding my two cents here.

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a lot of times the cops show up on a scene without a complaint.

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perhaps its time to see both sides of the picture. the government has everyone in a real bind, and don't act like cops don't abuse their power. let's face it, we have too many laws.


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