When Sam Farr was first invited and then disinvited to speak at the massive peace rally on February 15, 2003 in Santa Cruz City Councilmember and UCSC lecturer, Mike Rotkin called Joe Williams and Paul Franklin of the Santa Cruz Peace Coalition "sectarian idiots." Joe Williams wrote a reply which was published in the Sentinel defending his actions. Meanwhile Congressman Sam Farr has wobbled between bad votes and good votes while still getting the enthusiastic support of Mike Rotkin.

In this debate, Joe Williams and Mike Rotkin have it out on the Free Radio Santa Cruz airwaves with call in questions from Doug McGrath, Roxanne Acquistapace and others.

Special thanks to: Leslie Reid-Harrison for serving as the timekeeper.

This 69 minute audio selection records this debate on Sam Farr's record and the peace movement here in Santa Cruz.

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