To Ne@nderthal, from Elaine

Wild carnivores have *no choice* but to kill animals. They evolved to need animal flesh to survive. However, humans can *choose* to avoid eating animals by becoming vegetarian and *can survive and thrive* without eating animals.
The planet's remaining tribal hunter-gatherers also often have *no choice* but to kill animals to survive, especially in northern or arid regions where there is not enough edible vegetation to sustain their lives.
The criteria is survival—which is NOT the abomination of "sport" hunting by humans who dont need the animal to survive.
Regarding your remark about " brutal patriarchal domination that is reinforced every time I plant another row of organic tomatoes in my back yard," eating vegetables is necessary for humans to survive and causes less death than eating a factory farmed animal that was fed by killing many plants.
Eating factory farmed animals also causes millions of humans to starve.
The *millions of tons of wheat and corn* fed to enslaved food animals could eliminate famine in many parts of the world by using it to feed starving humans instead of using it to mass produce millions of helpless enslaved factory farmed animals.
At least wild animals have a chance to flee the tribal hunter or carnivore-unlike the "domestic" (enslaved) animals in cages who were bred by humans and cant even survive in the wild anymore.
Turkeys have been genetically engineered to be hugely obese, They cant even breed or walk properly and suffer from joint pain. Humans have no right to play "god" and create beings for food that are capable of suffering.