First of all, you shifted the debate with your trademark deceitfulness away from the point I initially made, which was that zionist organizations are the leading advocates of 'hate crimes' legislation in the United States. You said this perception was "a product of the paranoid anti-Zionist mindset." Then I backed my assertion up with one of the ADL's own documents. That is, I kicked yore asshole to the moon again.

But of course you avoided acknowledging this by shifting the subject. I don't think this sleazy maneuver was a conscious calculated act on your part. I think you're just deeply pathologically dishonest, on a level that precedes and dominates conscious thinking. Which pretty well summarizes my opinion of all religionists, including zionists, including Christian zionists.

Every position I have taken on this site has represented my opposition to Israel and to zionism. In response to this you have called me an anti-Semite repeatedly, especially now that lesser attacks have failed to silence me (this will also fail, since I regard your opinions of me, critical or otherwise, as less than meaningless). I've noticed that zionists always ALWAYS fall back on this 'anti-zionism = anti-Semitism' death-ray when facing determined opposition. The correlation is mendacious and manipulative of course, but zionists are insane ideologues whose paramount ideal is Israel's continued existence; every other value, including truthfulness, is martyred that this one might live...

It's not that you employ this 'anti-zionism = anti-Semitism' equation in a conscious calculated way; YOU REALLY BELIEVE IT. Zionism is an organic system of delusions, essentially a zealous fundamentalist religion, and you believe fervently in all of it. That's what makes you impossible to reach, as is typical of religionists in general. Your fervent (fervid, actually) belief in this particular fallacy is motivated by its convenience to the larger envelope of assumptions you accept without question, which by the way can be summed up as straightforward racism carried almost to the point of paranoid psychosis, complete with delusions of grandeur.

So. You believe absolutely in this 'anti-zionism = anti-Semitism' fallacy, as do zionists in general, as do the zionists of the ADL, and just admit it the ADL is filled to the rafters with zionists. Zionism has become the centerpiece of ethnic advocacy among Jews, which is what ADL has always represented.

Therefore, when you assert that the ADL "struggles to suppress antisemitism" and when I say the ADL (as a zionist organ) "struggles to suppress opposition to Israel," we're not really saying two different things. That's the effect of this equation you buy into so fervidly -- the two things become one and the same, and that's your mentality, not mine. By screaming "anti-Semite!" at me just because I don't like Israel, you've made my point for me that suppressing anti-zionism is integral to and inseperable from the ADL's efforts to suppress anti-Semitism. You and they think just alike; you both believe in the same religion.

That's my position on this, and I really don't give a shit what your reactionary 'anti-Semite' fetish makes of it. I will concede one thing, though, and that's that I suspect you've taken my bitterness and hostility to mean that I hate Jews particularly, and that's not true. What I hate is weak-mindedness, dishonesty, and stupidity, things which are wrecking the world and by doing so are extinguishing hope itself. I rip into these things in this same way wherever I see them, which is everywhere. In case you haven't noticed, I'm also intensely critical of the United States.

I tear into zionism and zionists because they embody an extreme of all three things.

So CT, about the Israel / 9-11 connection, what are your "thoughts" on this? I really want to know. Here's a website that might stimulate your "mind":

www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp