Heh.

Well, Steven, both those measures I worked on got trounced, but I try to treat all this shit as a learning experience. Oddly enough, I'm about near the end of Nader's *Reader* right now, and I feel like the main flaw of it is that Nader doesn't cop to the heartbreak side of activism. I think a lot of people, especially young people, need to be warned that frustration, disappointment and pain are a huge part of activism. If they see their elders not copping to it, they're likely to blame themselves for how they feel (instead of realizing that these feelings are natural) and to not realize that you build up resistance to it over time, like psychic scar tissue. :p

(Of course, Nader is legendary for living exclusively in his head, or at least his public persona does. Maybe in private, he pours himself a double bourbon and cranks up Memphis Minnie LPs really loud so the neighbors can't hear him crying. That's what I always do after yet another great crusade falls flat on its ass, anyway. It's very theraputic. :D )

It was nice talking to you all. I don't usually have an excuse to spend so much time on other Indy boards. Cheers.