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No doubt, Bush and his administration deserve to be removed from office and in jail. Let's not make a mistake about how I feel on that. However, the basic concept is that the process is not legal, it's political. Articles of impeachment are heard through a political process, and anyone who studied the process with Clinton can tell you this for sure. In his case, what started as an investigation into a real estate deal 20 years before turned into impeachment over what he said to cover up oral sex. However, because the GOP is so hateful and politically violent, they had been trying for years to destroy him and take him down on any count, and they took what they could get.
Guess what- these people are still running Congress (and, I might add, no thanks to people like you who worked hard to NOT elect Democrats to Congress). Do you think they'll take their hate-tactics to their own president? It is as simple as that. Nothing would happen at all, except a press conference that may or not be attended and reported on, or the exact opposite and the leadership in the GOP would hang every Democrat (or, in Sanders' case, Independent) out to dry and would work to get them voted out of office. Which would leave us (and yes, that means you guys too) with a GOP congressman and an even larger majority in legislatures, so they have to listen even less to any moderation of their right-wing agenda.

So, yes, in the short term, maybe the articles of impeachment would raise a few eyebrows. And I do not mean to denigrate the motives or people behind crafting them, because they are certainly deserved. I am just trying to help raise the long-term effects of such actions, and how what seems like a great idea at the time may bring conclusions that are the exact opposite of what you want (for instance, supporting Nader for president and getting Bush). No matter what you may say about Democrats-- and by the way, why do you think he even cares what you guys say when you never vote for him anyway?-- the reality is that there are worse evils out there, and your dogmatic agenda of impeachement may bring that to light.

This is what Kucinich was trying to say. That even though it may have its merits prima facia, in fact it would cause far worse outcomes for everyone. So, why not try for a little more realistic action that actually does something? That's always been my message here- that this group of people, while I respect your passion, haven't done anything to change what you have set out to change. For instance, Robert- can you point to one true "success" in your years of occupation here in Santa Cruz? When will you realize that your tactics are tired and useless and do not accomplish anything? The reason is that you keep focusing on the sleeping ban. Guess what- most people don't want other people sleeping in their front yards. Remember when the ban was temporarily lifted? Remember how the people you champion represented themselves so well that they decided to urinate and deficate on people's lawns while they slept in front of them? How needles and alcohol bottles were found all round these campsites? Well, surprise- people who actually pay taxes and contribute to this community weren't too happy with that. Why not, for instance, work with the Homeless Resource Center, the Page Smith house and others towards a SOLUTION, one that everyone can agree on? I still haven't seen a viable, workable, realistic position on the local homeless position from you, which is why you have largely failed in doing anything in this town. Doesn't that bother you? That's why I poke fun at your enormous ego, because that seems to be the only reason you do what you do.

The reason I used "other authorities" is because they seem to be the people who can't do anything wrong in your book, Robert. What I was hoping was that someone who you seem to trust with every decision was also saying that it was a bad idea would resinate with you all. Apparently not. Morals and scruples are good, don't get me wrong. But blindly going and charging for everything isn't always the best idea (hence the "what good have you done" discussion). Sometimes strategy works, too.
 


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