Response to I: You wrote: It is the continuous illegal occupation, the disregard for (U.S. vetoed) U.N. resolutions against Israel's POLICIES in the West Bank, and the humiliation and systematic destruction of Palestian Statehood. To me it is about a two state solution.
First, you have not addressed AT ALL my comments about UN resolution 242 in 1967 giving Israel stewardship over lands seized in the 1967 DEFENSIVE war. This made Israel's occupation legal. You keep ignoring this point. That's the problem. You have built a whole thesis based on one false concept. The West Bank and Gaza are not "Palestinian lands." Legally they are unallocated portions of the partition of the British Palestine mandate in 1947.
We can call them "the territories" or "disputed lands" but not "Palestinian lands" unless, you are intent on telling "the big lie" which if repeated often enough becomes true.
As to the multitudinous UN resolutions against Israel--- please note there are 23 Arab/Muslim countries and only one Jewish country (and a tiny one at that). 21 of these 23 countries are against the very existence of Israel as a Jewish State in the mideast. These resolutions condemn Israel regularly but cast a blind eye towards far greater abuses within the Arab countries. Try this: go to google and punch in "Sudan" "human rights abuses". see what you get and then ask yourself why the left is not howling about the Slavery, mass murders, and human rights abuses in Sudan? Then do it for Nigeria. Then do it for Saudi Arabia. etc.
I'm sorry, but a checkpoint to stop murderers from coming into Israel to kill is reasonable.
As for "systematic destruction of Palestinian statehood" don't blame Israel. Hamas is opposed to a Palestinian state. Arafat rejected one soundly in 2000. Oslo was supposed to bring about one five years ago but Palestinian violence against Israelis was supposed to have been checked by the armed Palestinian Authority created in 1994. Instead, the attacks on Israel dramatically INCREASED!
In other words, don't blame Israel for the lack of a Palestinian state. Blame Hamas, Al aqsa Martyrs Brigade, Islamic Jihad, and Arafat. Sharon agreed to Bush's "road map" too which provides for a Palestinian State.
I am personally against a Palestinian state because I do not believe it will bring peace to the region.
As a Jew (which I am not) you ought to be more respectful of the blood and sweat and determination that built the modern State of Israel--surrounded by enemies as she is---and right after the devastation of the Nazi holocaust. It is a homeland for the Jewish people who have suffered in exile for 2000 years. Your words actually serve to destroy Israel. What could possibly be your motive?
And your ridiculous theory that the Mossad is pretending to be Arab terrorists and fomenting attacks against Israel shows what straws you are clutching to in order to support your position.
You didn't answer my question
Date Edited: 07 May 2004 04:53:23 AM
First, you have not addressed AT ALL my comments about UN resolution 242 in 1967 giving Israel stewardship over lands seized in the 1967 DEFENSIVE war. This made Israel's occupation legal. You keep ignoring this point. That's the problem. You have built a whole thesis based on one false concept. The West Bank and Gaza are not "Palestinian lands." Legally they are unallocated portions of the partition of the British Palestine mandate in 1947.
We can call them "the territories" or "disputed lands" but not "Palestinian lands" unless, you are intent on telling "the big lie" which if repeated often enough becomes true.
As to the multitudinous UN resolutions against Israel--- please note there are 23 Arab/Muslim countries and only one Jewish country (and a tiny one at that). 21 of these 23 countries are against the very existence of Israel as a Jewish State in the mideast. These resolutions condemn Israel regularly but cast a blind eye towards far greater abuses within the Arab countries. Try this: go to google and punch in "Sudan" "human rights abuses". see what you get and then ask yourself why the left is not howling about the Slavery, mass murders, and human rights abuses in Sudan? Then do it for Nigeria. Then do it for Saudi Arabia. etc.
I'm sorry, but a checkpoint to stop murderers from coming into Israel to kill is reasonable.
As for "systematic destruction of Palestinian statehood" don't blame Israel. Hamas is opposed to a Palestinian state. Arafat rejected one soundly in 2000. Oslo was supposed to bring about one five years ago but Palestinian violence against Israelis was supposed to have been checked by the armed Palestinian Authority created in 1994. Instead, the attacks on Israel dramatically INCREASED!
In other words, don't blame Israel for the lack of a Palestinian state. Blame Hamas, Al aqsa Martyrs Brigade, Islamic Jihad, and Arafat. Sharon agreed to Bush's "road map" too which provides for a Palestinian State.
I am personally against a Palestinian state because I do not believe it will bring peace to the region.
As a Jew (which I am not) you ought to be more respectful of the blood and sweat and determination that built the modern State of Israel--surrounded by enemies as she is---and right after the devastation of the Nazi holocaust. It is a homeland for the Jewish people who have suffered in exile for 2000 years. Your words actually serve to destroy Israel. What could possibly be your motive?
And your ridiculous theory that the Mossad is pretending to be Arab terrorists and fomenting attacks against Israel shows what straws you are clutching to in order to support your position.
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