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CHEMTRAIL SPRAYING OVER SANTA CRUZ CONTINUES

It's true folks, the Chemtrail spray operation over our town is continuing! Some people "don't believe in Chemtrails", most people are too asleep and distracted to care! Conscious people all over Santa Cruz are extremely concerned that there is in fact something being sprayed over us!!! IT'S TIME WE STOP THE CHEMTRAILS IN SANTA CRUZ!!!!



[ ChemTrails 911 I Aerosol Operation I Would the Government Spray Us? ]
Chemtrails are real. Look at these photos taken downtown on July 17th. They are time lapse. They start out looking like "contrails" and slowly dissolve, ending up looking like clouds. They are hiding the chemicals they are spraying us with, and making them look like clouds. Here is the proof.

Believe it or not, most of the "air traffic" over Santa Cruz is not commercial, but military craft involved with the spray operation. Don't believe it? Track for yourself the planes that fly, and then check with air traffic, and they will know nothing about it.

The route of the airforce tankers that are being used to spray you and your families flies directly over Lompico. All day long they can be seen flying back and forth. Air traffic was contacted and they denied they knew about any flight pattern that went directly over Lompico. That is strange considering there are literally dozens of these same, quiet, white craft that fly back and forth every day. Someone is lying to us about the truth. You are breathing this shit every day. What are you going to do about it???

After a couple of months of more hidden spraying, with no visible trails in the sky, the "overt" spray operation has resumed. Once again those sickly chemical trails are being laid over our area. People on the "right" don't ever believe the government would do something to purposely hurt us. People on the "left" are also in a massive amount of denial about the extent of the feds plan to wipe out masses of the population of the planet, and to dumb us down by whatever means possible. After studying this phenomenon for almost a year, it has become very clear that this Chemtrail operation is meant to weaken us, and distabalize our nervous and immune systems. You can do the research yourself on the local Chemtrail site:

_www.chemtrails911.com and see the vast amount of evidence clearly showing the reality of the Chemtrail operation. The fact that so few people know about it is only a testomony to how dumbed down the people of the country are.

The shocking thing is that in this "enlightened" town of Santa Cruz, how people are so quick to protest illegal wars on the other side of the planet (and rightfully so) yet are so totally asleep to the fact that SANTA CRUZ IS BEING DAILY SPRAYED WITH UNKNOWN CHEMICALS!!!

This shit is NOT good for you folks, and they are not doing it to protect you in any way.

People are reporting all kinds of sickness, coughing, lower resperatory problems, and much much more after exposure to Chemtrails.

Emily Reilly was contacted and offered information proving the existance of the Chemtrails, and has done nothing about it.

Several thousand people in our town are aware of what is going on, but if they are going to leave us alone, we need to spread the word. It is up to you.

Write letters to the editor, call the mayor, call in on talk show, tell your friends!

If you don't believe it's real, then wake up and do the research and find out! IT IS! And we are
sleeping through our own slow death every day we let them get away with this CALCULATED ASSAULT ON OUR HEALTH>

This is an emergencey. We do not know what they are spraying us with, but it is making us slowly sick and weak, weather we realize it or not.
 
 


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Help, I'm Choking.

Buy one of my air cleaners, now! Guaranteed to remove chemtrails from your living room. (see earlier comment by Van who debunked these people)
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What pisses me off about these jerk-offs is that they are diverting attention from REAL sources of pollution that are affecting people's health. Like local cement plant emissions, auto and unregulated diesel emissions (3000 dead/year), fumes from wastewater treatment plants, burning oil storage tanks, herbicide spraying on the sides of our roads, and poor IAQ due to VOCs and mold. If someone were trying to poison us from the air, dispersal from 30,000 feet is not a very efficient way to do it. The stuff doesn't come straight down! I am really tired of their "proof by assertion" arguements.

I remember what it was like when we REALLY were poisoned from the air - helicopters spraying pesticide-impregnated bait directly over our property, streets, and water courses in the middle of the night during the medfly scare.

Why don't the chemtrails people get some Howard Hughes-type (rich, germophobe) to finance a flight to collect air samples from the middle of a chemtrail? Bet they will find ice crystals, unburnt aviation fuel, and combustion products. For that matter, if as they claim we are all getting sick from this, they could just stand outside with an air sampler and then have it analyzed for the chemicals they think are raining down on us. Of course, point of origin would still have to be proven.

Life is scary enough without these fear-mongers!

What exactly did they expect the Mayor to do? She has been real busy making sure juggling is once again allowed on our streets ...
 

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chemtrails people! Oh gosh, we've been wondering where you've been. Probably licking your wounds after the unfair thrashing you've taken on Indymedia from all those "ostriches" with their "heads in the sand".
 

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Firstly, Van never debunked these people in earlier comments, he just made a total fool out of himself, with his brainy but off track comments. Trying to "debunk" something that is actually real, and happening regularly, may feed his ego, and make him feel cool and smart, but ultimately when he finds out the unfortunate truth, he will just have to humble out and realize that he made a judgement error. I realize that may be painful. We always want to feel like we are right, and smart and cool.

Too bad this has nothing to do with that. Yesteerday, Friday, the sky was once again covered with Chemtrails, and only someone who is simply ignorant (most people) or in denial (Van) is not going to notice. Van thinks it's an ego battle. How sad and far from the truth.

Anyone interested in the truth of chemtrails can go to chedmtrails911 and do research from there.

Or you can start paying attention to the Santa Cruz sky.

There was no "trashing we've undertaken on indymedia", and frankly, no one could give a shit about their ranting and raving. They just think people do.

Whoever you are reading this, think for yourself. Find out for yourself. You will realize that the Chemtrail operation is happening all over the country, and in a massive way. You will find thousands of people from every state, tons of websites with tons of testamonies and documenation, and the chemtrails911.com website is a great place to start.

There are paid government disinfo people on the net whose job it is to go around and "debunk" the chemtrail information.

Think for youself. Do the research yourself. Don't "believe" either side. Find out the truth for yourself.

It is totally unreal that there are people on the so called left who are still (after years) ignaorant and in denial about the Chemtrail situation. It is a major and consistant health risk.

Not only the chemicals that are being sprayed, but the massive increase in mold could very well be related to the spray operation as well.

Just go to chemtrails 911 and do the research for yourself. Don't be lulled into complacency by some ignorant ego radical, or some government disinfo guy ranting about how we are a bunch of whatever. The sad joke is on them, and all of us.

take care
 

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The Photos shown above are curious. They show lines that look initially like contrails, but everyone knows that contrails totally dissolve within 20 seconds to a couple of minutes on Average.

The contrails above do not exibit normal contrail formation. I have been studying contrail vs chemtrail formation, and the photos above definitely resemble chemtrails. It is interesting how they eventually look like clouds. You can tell from the photos above that the "clouds" in the final picture are from the chemtrails, dispersed over time. They are obviously not clouds or regular normal contrails.

My research confirms the seriousness of the Chemtrail issue.

Though there are many people who are aware of it all over the country, and the spraying is going on in other Nato countries as well, it is very difficult to wake people up to this. It almost seems impossible.

I spoke to someone who just returned from Holland two weeks ago. He also saw many Chemtrails being laid where he was. Most people didn't know about them there either.

People arent thinking that the government would actually do that to their own people. So it's not within their beliefe system that something like an orchestrated chemical spraying of the populations would ever happen. We all have a need to be consistant, and this idea is inconsistant with their inner belief system about reality, so they deny it. It's basic psychology. And it is exactly why the government does not worry too much about being exposed. They know they can fool most of the people most of the time. Even on the
"left".

I have reveiewed the www.chemtrails911.com site, and found a wealth of background information, and many different perspectives on the subject. It is obvious that there is something going on. My friends have seen the trials actually being sprayed in Santa Cruz, and have watched them disperse over many hours to eventually look like clouds and a hazy white covering over the sky.

I have a friend in the Bay Area who also says she hears the planes daily, and that they are getting sprayed their.

To deny the possibility outright, with so much documentation and verification already out there, is to make ones self to look very stupid in the eyes of those who know the truth about the situation.
 

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Wow

I live in Akron,Ohio and I have definetely seen these strange kind of vapor(?) formations in the sky over Akron. They are very noticable because they have been happening at sunset and are very dramatic. The planes make a criss-cross pattern across the western sky. It seems different then regualar jet trails especially in the way they disperss into clouds. Please keep posting updates. Couldnt e-mail by clicking on link on chemtrail site. Please feel free to personally e-mail me with any info. thanks chrystine
 

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What's wrong with IMC-Santa Cruz editors? This is loony!
 

sheesh.

Or your being sprayed by condensation.

sheeeesh!

Nuts!
 

show me the .evidence

I think I've got an open mind; trouble is, every time I go to these links to look further, I find
1) opinions about how most of us are 'sheeple' etc.
2) but no hard evidence

A while ago someone asked for a brief synopsis of what chemtrails are and what they're effects are. I've yet to see an answer.

The lack of information combined with the naive approach (at first 'even the mayor' was meeting with us') and the put downs turns most people off.

I don't put it past the government to dump a bunch of crap on us (irradiated pesticide filled food, 'legal' drugs, etc.) but you just cannot say that you don't know what it is but it's very, very bad for us.
 

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What's really "loony" and "nuts" is how ignorant some people can be. Did "loony" and "nuts" do any background check on the situation? of course not. They just stay inside their comfort zone and post cheap words. Try spending a few hours on www.chemtrails911.com and also read the post on the right side of the home page to find out about the governments history of spraying the population. Get real. Get educated. Wake up.


The sky over Felton has a blanket of Chemhaze over it. This would be a clear blue sky day. They are counting on you NOT to notice that there is a white haze over the sky. Pay attention. Look up!


I CAN PROVE THAT THE CHEMTRAIL OPERATION IS REAL, AND THAT SANTA CRUZ IS IN FACT BEING SPRAYED DAILY BY UNMARKED WHITE MILITARY PLANES!!!

How? Because I live directly under the flight route of the planes! I see them every day! They are identicle planes and they fly back and forth!

Air traffic control says there is NO flight pattern over that area! Then what are the 20-30 sightings of these identicle planes doing flying overhead, day after day? Then why do these line up as the same looking planes that are photo identified over other parts of the country as the spray planes?

I AM LOOKING FOR A PROFESSIONAL PHOTOGRAPHER WITH A POWERFUL LENSE ABLE TO CAPTURE THESE MILITARY AIRCRAFT ON FILM. IF YOU ARE OUT THERE, LET ME KNOW! That is one way we can prove what is going on.

Step out of your comfort zone and realize shit like this has been going on for decades. So if yolu think it sounds rediculous, with all due respect, it just shows that you are ignorant.
 

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Dear Wondering,

Please go to chemtrails911.com and splash around. There is a massive amount of proof and validation that the Chemtrail operation is going on all over. Please remember, this is a covert operation. The biggest covert operation that has ever happened during (or started during) peacetime. That means the government is denying it. It takes a little time to sift through various opinions, and perspectives to come to your own conclusions. There is simply tons of evidence and documentation, and a great start is chemtrails911.com . So please take the time to educate yourself. There is no excuse for: " there is no evedence", there is tons of it. Go check it out for yourself.
 

proof?

It would a hell of a lot easier if you had some sort of shot of the alleged white planes making the trail over the area where you say there are no commercial flights.

you say it seems almost impossible to convince people? You got time lapse photography going on, you should be able to spend one day waiting to catch one of these plances on a zoom/ telephoto lens surely?

a picture speaks a thousand words...
 

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The spray planes flight pattern is consistant, but they do not spray over that flight pattern, they just go to and from the operation. The person who did the time lapse photos is very busy and not available right now to hang out for a day and photograph the dozens of identicle looking planes that fly back and forth over their flight route. That's why we're looking for someone with a good telephoto. Also, on www.chemtrails911.com there are videos of the spray planes in action! Check em out.

Also check out one of the best chemtrail sites:

www.lightwatcher.com/chemtrails/hos.html
 

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The sky is in fact covered with a white haze again. It smells like aluminum. I can't believe people don't notice this is happening. I saw the trails the other day all over, and they were not normal contrails. This is a serious issue. If people new what was happening in our skies, if people knew that we are being deliberately sprayed with something, they would be outraged. I am really concerned that people are too complacent to notice. I know that Chemtrails are real. The sky is covered with the white mist today.
 

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1. Your photos do not "prove" anything. If you consider your photos proof than you would fail third grade science. Really. All you've done is post a bunch of photos.

2. I think it's interesting that those of you who believe that there is a chemtrails conspiracy by the government nearly always resort to verbally attacking those of us who don't agree with you. I've looked at your websites and photos and I just don't agree. Why do you feel the need to attack? Are you that insecure and angry?

3. The two people in Santa Cruz you have talked my ear off on this "issue" face-to-face are not people who I would consider credible sources. Both are highly volatile people who often come to meetings having nothing to do with chemtrails and then try to disrupt by talking about chemtrails.
 

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this stuff is for real folks,
biological and chemical warfare agents have
often been tested on american citizens without them knowing,it is well documented and the government has appoligized,congressional records
can be sited and californians have died,
even the anthrax vacine was used on
military personel without the approval of the f.d.a. because the dept. of defense does wat
it wants with your people,your land,your kids,
ect, no joke!they sentenced a sailor 40 days,
demoted him,docked his pay,and he had to work in 105 heat durring his sentence,ect....ITS IN THE
L.A. TIMES TODAY!!!! YOU ARE FORCED TO TAKE THEIR
CRAP!!!!even floridation of the water was used by the nazis in p.o.w. camps,no joke your water is floridated,but maybe this is just wacko-stuff to
some of you, check out lab usa by autonomedia
its got declassified documented proof of this
sort of activity..........
 

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No surprise. Good luck. Globe, Arizona was sprayed w/agent orange. Residents were told that the spray was to kill underbrush. Those exposed, died of cancer.
 

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Petition For Chemtrail Disclosure
By Diane Harvey
This petition is served on behalf of the undersigned, and on behalf of all citizens of this country, whether aware or as yet unaware of the ubiquitous and alarming phenomena referred to as Chemtrails.

With each passing day, the number of those who become vividly conscious of anomalous aircraft activity, visibly and provably present, is increasing dramatically. As public awareness increases, the groundswell of voices demanding an explanation for this massive clandestine operation is inexorably building.

All of us who have been forced to spend our own time, energy and money to force disclosure as to the origin and purpose of this program are therefore intensifying our effort. All relevant officials at local, state federal levels have the legal and ethical obligation to investigate serious inquiries regarding this matter from deeply concerned individuals and groups.

There are, conservatively speaking, tens of thousands of United States citizens whose demand to know the cause and purpose of this phenomena is being repeatedly ignored. To continue to conveniently marginalize and dismiss with prejudice such a large and ever-growing number of public-spirited citizens will not be effective in stopping this campaign for full disclosure.

The present common strategy based on wholesale refusal to look at the evidence is highly unethical and cannot be maintained in a democratic society. Those who persist in declining to acknowledge irrefutable evidence will be held accountable for a serious breach of public trust.

Whatever government agency is ultimately responsible for this long-standing and highly secretive operation of questionable purpose(s) will certainly be subject to the inevitable judgment of the people of this country. Whether or not this secret program has been initiated and is being carried out from a motive of public benefit is entirely beside the point.

No government agency has the right to inflict secret experiments of any kind, based on any motive whatsoever, on an uninformed citizenry. It is a matter of public record that highly damaging government-sponsored experiments have been performed on the American public in recent history, and are continuing unabated, unregulated, and for the most part unsuspected.

Furthermore, the inordinate interest displayed by a long list of military and industrial organizations in our information, documented by the daily repeated visits to websites dedicated to archiving public accumulation of Chemtrail evidence, is, in and of itself, extremely provocative. Those whose positions we support with our tax dollars, whose responsibility it is to keep us informed and to protect us from harm, are, almost without exception, consistently failing to address our legitimate concerns. We who pay the salaries of the very same elected and appointed officials who refuse to confront our painstakingly acquired evidence of the factual existence of Chemtrails, do not accept this betrayal and subversion of the democratic process.

We have collectively amassed an enormous amount of undeniable evidence that something highly unusual and distinctly harmful to the human organism is deliberately being released from unknown aircraft on a regular basis. Since our legitimate concerns addressed to those officials and agencies legally and morally responsible for investigating this on our behalf have heretofore been ignored, we have had to take matters into our own hands.

We have been obliged to educate ourselves in the scientific explanations and descriptions of normal contrails, cloud formations, weather patterns, meteorological minutiae, aircraft identification, local flight patterns, radar anomalies, the interpretation of GOES satellite data, and innumerable other allied aspects of this experiment.

The preceding many months of serious research by a large community of intelligent and determined citizens have resulted in a single unavoidable conclusion: an experiment of vast proportions, at immense cost, for unknown reasons and with unknown ultimate consequences, is being carried out over a long period of time without the knowledge or informed consent of the American people.

Over the period of time in question, many of us have become demonstrably, and in many cases, chronically ill from the fallout from Chemtrail activity in our immediate vicinities, and have watched with fear and dismay as our families, friends and neighbors become ill. We have minutely observed, recorded, photographed, videotaped, and kept close watch on these phenomena and their attendant effects on our environment and organisms.

The present climate of willful ignorance and denial regarding our collective findings naturally does nothing to assuage our mounting concerns. To the contrary: when large numbers of rationally alarmed people are continually rebuffed and treated with the condescension typically accorded to the mentally unsound, the only result possible is increasing outrage, disgust, and a sense of disaffection from our own government.

We do not accept this continuing dismissal and silence as an answer to our questions. We do not find the studied indifference, calculated disparagement and casual insults offered by those officials and government agencies we are approaching for answers, to be either lawful or morally reasonable. Therefore we will continue to press vigorously and unrelentingly for honest investigation in response to our sincere and incontestably justifiable concerns.

Incontrovertible observations regarding the continuing presence of this secret program will not be allowed to be relegated to the wastebaskets of elected officials. The sheer numbers of indignant and outraged Americans, told again and again that their perfectly clear perceptions are based on a "hoax", is insuring that this issue is not going away. Day by day, this "secret" operation is becoming less and less of a secret. The demand for an explanation is gathering momentum. The factual reality of Chemtrails is going to have to be addressed honestly, and immediately. The extensive accumulated evidence must be given a hearing, and the cause and purpose of this experiment must be disclosed to the American public.

All efforts to maintain secrecy in this matter are resulting in permanent and irreparable harm to whatever trust remains between the people of this country and their government. The present official attitude of dishonest denial and irrational refusal to entertain the evidence itself has got to end. We insist, and we will persist.

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The "spray" is - according to Dr. Len Horowitz and other researchers - aluminum "dust" put in the fuel. The "excuse" is to "stop global warming", but the real reason is to 1)make us breath aluminum to weaken our immune systems, and 2) the aluminum falls from the sky and drags with it upper-atmosphere viruses to further attack our immune system.

To view the patent for the "aluminum dust in the fuel" plan, check out Dr. Horowitz's book "Death in the Air" or check out
www.tetrahedron.org/
 

unmarked tankers

why are there unmarked tankers flying around the states and the UK?

see this KC-135 at MIAMI
www.airliners.net/open.file/230291/M/

and in Scotland 4 days later.
www.airliners.net/open.file/310350/M/
see the comments from the scottish photographer.

and recently seen in Ireland with refuelling boom visible.

Also another one above Birmingham, England
www.airliners.net/open.file/314011/M/
 

Boxty what's your point?

eom
 

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The point is that this operation is going on all over the planet. That doesn't make it any less illegal, covert or toxic for us. It just shows how widespread and massive this operation is. This is by far the biggest covert operation that has ever taken place on the planet. It is so much in our face, (they are doing this all over in plane veiw), that the general population does not even notice. That is the shocking part of all! Once you open your eyes to the reality, it is so hard to believe that others arent noticing. The fact that there are people even on this "altenative" line who actually believe the chemtrail exposers are the ones who are "off", is totally unreal. It is almost more scary than the operation itself how they have duped us, and are spraying us, with most people not noticing, and even much of the "left" in denial. Unbelievable.

The spray planes were out spraying through the night all over Santa Cruz last night. I saw them. They have blinking lights, and they fly very slow, and they are strangely quiet. They are made to be quiet. The sky is totally covered with the white chem haze. Meanwhile we protest (rightfully so) the illegal occupation of Iraq, and are completely asleep to the FACT that we are being sprayed here with some kind of chemicals by a government who is denying and lying about the truth of the Chemtrails. We are so used to watching other countries getting attacked, and sadly, they have us exactly where they want us. Distracted.

Please understand, the people who have woken up to the truth about the Chemtrail issue are also generally equally activated and outraged about the rest of the policies of this administration, across the board. This is simply crazy that they are able to get away with spaying us with who knows what, in front of our eyes.
This situation saddens me to no end. I feel outraged. I want to go out to the people of Santa Cruz and tell people, but would they listen? Would they take the time to look up, to educate themselves to notice the difference between clear skies and hazy chem sprayed skies, the difference between normal contrails and normal clouds and their sick chemy "clouds". The spray planes are flying over our skies constantly, but no one hardly notices. I could almost cry it is such a sad situation. I know there are people in other parts of the country that are bring this hideous illegal operation to light. I hope it happens before we inhale so much aluminum and barium that we don't even care of notice any more that we are being slowly poisoned. God help us.

I finally did visit the chemtrails911.com site and found a wealth of information. Check out the link "excellent site" and splash around a bit. There is so much information from so many different people, and so much documentation, that if you look you will find out that this is, sadly, very real.
 

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MOST OF THE AIR TRAFFIC ABOVE SANTA CRUZ IS CONNECTED WITH THE SPRAY OPERATION. IF YOU DO YOUR OWN INVESTIGATION YOURSELF, YOU WILL FIND OUT THIS IS TRUE. THEY ARE MADE TO BE SILENT, AND THE KC135 AIRFORCE TANKERS THAT ARE FLYING CONSTANTLY IN OUR SKIES ARE HIGH ALTITUDE, ARE MADE TO BE DIFFICULT TO SEE, AND VERY QUIET.

SOMEONE WITH A STRONG TELEPHOTO CAMARA NEEDS TO START PHOTOGRAPHING THESE AIRCRAFT. MOST OF THE AIRCRAFT IN OUR SKY ARE PART OF THE OPERATION, SO IT WOULD NOT BE DIFFICULT. CHECK WITH THE FAA AND YOU WILL FIND THAT THERE IS NO RECORD OF THESE PLANES. THEN WHAT ARE THEY DOING UP THERE???
 

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CHEMTRAILS IS PEOPLE -- CHEMTRAILS IS PEOPLE!!!
 

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This is total insanity that we are expected to just live with this. I wake up to a brand new day and find, as ususal, semi dispersed chemtrails floating and covering the sky with it's sickly white cloudish looking toxin. It is so insidious feeling. It feels like we are being sprayed like bugs. It is so obvious that they are purposeflully spraying us, even if it's a secondary effect from a weather modification program, or something. This is a massive operation potentially involving weather modification, satelite tracking systems, haarp, and definitely weakening the people's immune systems and nervous and brain function, so that we are compromised and more easy to control. What proves this is true is this: they are definitely spraying something over Santa Cruz City and County, The entire Bay Area, All of California, much of the entire United States, and Many Nato Country. They are not telling us. That is like a covert attack on a people, with some kind of chemical agent. Vitamins? I don't think so. One recent member to the Nato alliance noticed chemtrail spraying for the very first time the exact day after becomming a nato member. It's like "V" all over again!!! :)
Or maybe "They Live"!!!

Anyway, this Chemtrail issue sickens and sadens me to no end. I can't believe it. I look up, right now, and they are everywhere I can see, including all above my neiborhood. Someone has got to stop this. It is totally crazy. It is illegal to spray the population without our concent. This stuff has been tested and proven to contain all kinds of pathogens and heavy meatals that are highly toxic for us. Aluminum for one is highly poisonous for us to be breathing. Our air folks is saturated with whatever it is they are spraying. Every day. Almost without exeption.

They are spraying nightly. The whispy misty "clouds" that are floating in our skies in the morning could very well be chemtrails. They dissapear over hours and become a whitish, barely noticable haze through the entire sky. This is not a conspiracy "theory". But they certainly are not telling us that they are doing this, what to say of asking our permission. It definitely breaks the law. It's definitely bad for us, as nothing they could be spraying would be any less than toxic. Of course all the testing done thus far points to heavy meatals and pathogens of various types. The concealment is an admission of guilt. If it were not bad for us and they were doing the spraying for our own good, or to protect us or help us or whatever they would tell us. It is a massive cover up. It is so much in our faces, that people don't notice. And the ones who tell others are thought eccentric and conspiracy "theorists", etc. They have us exactly where they want us. Unless YOU wake up to the truth, and spread the word. Why are people so complacent. "Oh well, there are so many toxins in the environment". yada yada yada...Are you kidding??!!! Toxins in the environment is very different than a systematic dispersion of chemicals over the population.

The chemtrails are consistantly merged with and sprayed within clouds and above their previous nights chem cover.

They have become expert at hiding it, yet still spray the trails visible from most parts of Santa Cruz, almost every day now. The kc135 air force tankers are flying over the skies of Santa Cruz constantly and contiuously. These flights do not mirror any known or legal flight pattern. You can look up in the sky and see the planes. I am hearing one right now. They deflect light, and sometimes appear invisible, as we hear the planes engine crossing the sky, but not able to see an actual plane. They are disigned to be hidden from you. They have reflective coating that reflects the sky and appears to dissapear. There is a secret base where this operation is located. It is highly organized and the base of operation must be humming with activity, computors and experts who are orchestrating and implimenting what is by far the most massive, potentially earth and life devastating covert operation that has ever taken place on plant earth. If the people of this planet do not wake up and stop those responsible, the effects our our individual and collect health as a species could be severely compromized. Why would they spray us and not tell us unless it's some vile shit and some vile reason they have for doing it?
 

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I am a molecular biologist from Nashville, TN. I am certainly intrigued by your discussion, but I can tell you that any active biological agent would have to be sprayed from a much lower altitude to arrive at the ground level in any concentration high enough to cause a reaction. Also, I'd be more worried about the folks inland to you, because the air currents in your area should carry particles away from Santa Cruz, not down and into your lungs. But I am moving to Santa Cruz this year, so I'm going to give this thing a look myself. Thanks for an interesting theory
 

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In answer to the last post by Bonomo. They are spaying heavily to a saturation point. The night spraying enables them to saturate the air, yet have the chemtrails so dispersed as to appear like a slight white haze, or misty clouds, and be unoticed by the populations. They are succeeding in that way. There is no doubt they are spraying. What we need now is some simple tests to find out what exactly it is. The ground and air and water must have verifiable amounts of aluminum or other agents. If you are a scientist and are able to assist in getting to the bottom of this, let us know.

Anyone who does a serious analyses as the the Chemtrail situation, will find out it's reality.

Think for yourself. Look at the photos from all over the country that look identicle. Listen to the eye witness accounts from all over that sound the same. Miles of video tape. Hundreds of thousands of people have seen the trails, and know about the situation.

We need a scientist to step forward and help do some testing.
 

no_problem.net

It seems to me that there are multiple water and soil labs in the area. People test their well water all the time.
It's also not that unlikely that someone would have a decent telescope at home or in their garage.
 

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well, if someone does have those things, please step forward!

today was a perfect example of a sky that is "clear", and should be blue. think back when you were younger, of what pure blue skies look like. the sky today over the entire santa cruz area was cloud free, and should have been clear and blue. it was not. if you look you will see it is greyish blue. there is a haze of dispersed chemtrails from last night all though the air and the sky, that's why it is not true blue. look for yourself.

conditioning means that we have been slowly aclimating to the change, so we don't notice it. we are conditioned not to notice that there is a chem haze covering the sky, even on so called "clear sky days". so don't be fooled thinking that if you don't see the actual "trails" that the sky is clean. couldn't be further from the truth. the sky is saturated. then sometimes they will spray visible trails in their already saturated sky.
 

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In response to the post from "tired of this" from several days ago: The two people you mention have never disrupted meetings on other topics. They just bring up the obvious yet unreported issue of the Chemtrails. And as far as their credibility, they are fine and intelligent and passionate people, spreading the word about something that dramatically effects all of our health. There are many people in Santa Cruz who are educated on the topic and spreading the word all over. To try to put down sincere people who are educating people on such an urgent issue brings question to your credibility, not theirs by any means.
 

saturation is more difficult than you think

Ok, the saturation argument is certainly viable, as it would be the only way to generate continuous exposure. But saturating a closed environment such as a fume hood is difficult enough. You have to remember that though molecules are tiny, they don't neccesarily stick together. They behave as any gas would, by filling the container that holds them. Sure this works fine in the hold of an airborne tanker, but once they release an aerosol, you would have continuous dispersal in every direction, influenced by nothing other than gravity and the prevailing winds. Now, we have to do a little calculation to figure out how much "chemical" would be needed. Of course the molecular weight of the agent and the square milage of Santa Cruz would have to be taken into account, and since I have neither number, I can't do it, but for the purposes of argument, lets assume a hypothetical. You mentioned aluminum. So we have a chemical agent with an active ingredient of aluminum, and its probably organic, otherwise it would be difficult to engineer something to only target humans. (If it was anything more common, all your beautiful redwoods would be dead, along with your kelp forests and your dog.) So we have a highly engineered, pretty heavy molecule here. This is good for your theory in that a heavier agent would be less affected by air currents, easier to control. This is also bad for your theory because heavy metals dont make very good aerosols. Especially to a saturation point. They like to precipitate out and form other nasty things. Remember the toxic avenger? You'd look like that if your air really was completely saturated with an organic heavy metal compound, complete with melting skin. Also you would suffocate because this wonder drug is also taking the place of all that oxygen you are addicted to. Finally, and this is the math part, we have to estimate how much of this agent (which will be impossibly expensive to produce, and they haven't offered me that job yet) would be needed to saturate Santa Cruz. Well thats easy, multiply the molecular weight by the space (moles/square inch) and you'll realize that to saturate an area that large, you'd need more aluminium than has ever been produced on the planet earth. Also, the tankers would have to be the size of the Death Star, and I doubt you'd miss that thing on the approach. I have some friends at the aquarium, and they tell me you folks have quite a large ocean next door. If you think the effects of this agent in a terrestrial setting would be bad, don't even think about what would happen to our friends in the Pacific. But they say everyones doing fine, if you could get rid of those damn snails. So I'm skeptical to say the least, but I am also quite entertained. Honestly thats all I really want from life anyway, so thanks for putting this here, whoever did it.

One last thing, mists are caused by condensation, I can say without any doubt that if you are being sprayed, you would never see it. Scary.
 

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The size of the particles would be 1 micron in size or so. The EPA says that any particulate smaller than 10 micron size is toxic for humans, as it is easily absorbed into the lungs and soft tissue. If the EPA says something is actually toxic for us, that is one thing you can trust them on.

Also, you are correct in that the spray would disperse unreasonably, yet there is one factor that you need to take into account. The ChemCoctail mix is sprayed by aerosol, yet suspended in a polymer matrix that keeps it together and suspended and cloud looking.
The small size of the particulate makes it highly toxic for us toi breath. There is no doubt that we are breathing it, we are. As far as an earlier post as far as the height being too high, they spray much lower than you would expect. They spray at various altitudes. The polymer keeps it suspended and cohehisive, and we are breathing that as well. There are photos of this stuff and it is weird. Also, there is mold and viruses from the upper atmosphere that may attach to the polymer/fiber/chem haze and drop down to us. A massive increase in black mold and health problems could be related to any of these or other toxic elements that may be purposely or inadvertantly be tagging along for the ride.
 

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Is it any wonder there is a shortage of psychiatrists in Santa Cruz? The number of nut cases here must be the highest in the nation.

Calm down and seek professional help. There is no secret spraying of anything over Santa Cruz. It's all in your head.

Get back on the medication and off the herbal stuff.
 

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You say the earth is round??? You fool!! You moron!! EVERYONE knows that the earth is flat. Seek some help, you nut case!! Get a doctor!!

Earth is round... what a joke!!
 

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Actually it is you who need to get the reality check. If you are too mind controlled to look up in the sky and notice the obvious, then go to chemtrails911.com and see photos of the spray operation happening in Santa Cruz. It doesn't take a high IQ to to see the obvious. Once someone realizes the truth of the Chemtrails, it is people like this who end up looking stupid.

Wanna see a bunch of really good information?

click here:

www.lightwatcher.com/chemtrails/hos.html
 

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There are only three groups of people who would activily deny, and make fun of the reality of Chemtrails. To innocently not know or to question, is normal and intelligent. But to "make fun of" or belittle someone who is exposing the truth would put one in one of these catagories: blind and arrogant, in massive denial and would rather make fun of someone than deal with the uncomfortable reality of the topic at hand, or fed/disinfo.

For the rest of you readers. Go to www.chemtrails911.com and don't be afraid to think for yourself. The Chemtrails are so "in our face/sky" almost every day, that no one notices. That is the bizarre part!
 

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So we've taken pictures, talked to officials, made phone calls, gotten awareness out there and still haven't sold everyone. What's the next step? Track their patterns and times and take a plane out there. Is that not possible? Hear that pilots? Help us debunk this one!
 

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To those who don't see the humor or the light that I am shedding from my past post (4 posts ago) and therefore think that I am against you or insulting you, I was commenting on the post before me where it was stated, "Calm down and seek professional help". I know a majority of people understand what I'm saying and see the logic and humor in it. But I don't think that "Amused" and "Laughing Man" are quite with it enough to see it. WAKE UP BOYS, I'M ON YOUR SIDE!! But if I need to spell it out for you: everyone used to think that the world was flat and anyone that believed otherwise was nuts and needed to "calm down and seek professional help". But now it's common knowledge that the earth is round, just like it will be common knowledge some day that chemtrails are real and we are being sprayed on a daily basis.

Let's not get so paranoid that we don't truely listen to each other though.
 

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Thanks for clarifying that. I can see what you were saying now. Yes, you are right. It is exactly like you said. And unfortunately, some day, hopefully soon, everyone will know that the Chemtrails were real the whole time. There will be no glory for those exposing the issue then. "see, we were right" is not going to make anyones day.

Yesterday, when the sky was covered with clouds, there were tons of chemtrails interspersed and above the clouds. By the time the clouds pass, the chemtrails just look like more haze or clouds, and it is impossible to notice, unless you know what to look for.

Sometimes I wish I didn't know about the chemtrails, because once you know, everything changes. It is hard to protend everything is peachy keen, when you know above your head is chemical spray. I don't know what to do.
If people knew about this, they would be unbelievable pissed off and would demand it stop. But people don't now, and many who find out don't "believe" in them, or think it's a "theory" or "unproven". It is so sad. If these innocent people only knew the truth.

There is a way to prove this. There is a smoking gun, and it is undeniable. The smoking gun is the planes. We know their flight pattern. with a telephoto lense, we could document the spray planes, with a time and place and date, and then we can easily prove that there is no flight pattern over that area. We can prove these are unmarked military planes though the photographs.
If anyone is able to take a half a day off and photograph these planes, we can expose their ass fast.

The U.S. government is covertly spraying unknown chemical or other agents over the population of Santa Cruz. This is totally fucking outrageous.

If we don't take action to stop them now, it may be too late. We dont' want to be "right", we just want to wake up Santa Cruz (this conscious, activist town that we are) so we can be a model city that shut down the chemtrails operation in our city. It's up to us. We all know about the sickness this administration is perpetrating all over the planet. The lies and deceipt. Yest all over the country Americans are getting regularly sprayed with chemicals! And hardly anyone notices! They are getting away with murder. Or something.

The fact that they deny it, proves that it is evil.

Again, thanks again for your claification on your comment. Well taken.

The earth is round. Chemtrails are real. PLEASE PLEASE WAKE UP!
 

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Thanks miles for you ideas. You hit it directly on the nose. We need that documentation. We CAN expose this sicko operation, and regain our skies and our health.

Is anyone able to document this? We have the location for you with spray planes flying overhead many times an hour. They are all the same kind of plane! They are the same plane that is documented all over the counry!

This is real smoking gun!

Let's expose these evil doers. This MUST be stopped now!!
 

reality check

Wait, wait, let me get this straight.
Aren't you supposed to document something *before* you present it to the public and expect support?

I am not going to do the research on this issue (there are many issues which need our attention)
but it's seems logical that those who advocate it should.


If I want to encourage someone to see things my way I try to give them some evidence which makes sense to *them*.
 

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There are photographs taken several times a week of chemtrails over santa cruz. There are videos of the actual chemspraying happening over santa cruz. There is tons of documentation. If you are not going to look you are not going to see it. You don't have to do the research, disconcerted, it HAS already been done for you, and there is tons of it!!!

You will have to go to where the research and documentation is though: www.chemtrails911.com

Sure there are many issues that need our attention. Certainly the fact that we are unknowingly breathing chemicals that are purposely sprayed in our skies is one of them!

IT'S THE VERY AIR THE WE ARE BREATHING. THE VERY FOUNDATION OF OUR LIFE. THAT SEEMS PRETTY IMPORTANT TO ME!!!

Yes, it is important to share evidence that makes sense. There is tons of it on the www.chemtrails911.com site. You can veiw it yourself. There is plenty of photos, research, and evidence, as well as tons of personal testamonial about the chemtrail operation.

If you look at the photos on the site, and read the research that has already been done, you will begin to understand what is going on here.
Then one day you will look up in the sky, and realize that you are looking at a chemtrail!

Many of the so called clouds and much of the haze that is in the santa cruz skies are chem spray.

Disconcerted, your points are well taken, but the research and the evidence is there. Please review it. Then look up and notice your skies. The chemtrails are visible often. the rest of the time the chemhaze is totally covering our sky. You will rarely find, in fact, a truly blue sky over santa cruz any more! but no one hardly notices. conditioning. gradually, we get used to it.

this operation is so orchestrated and massive, it is hard to believe. Human beings are innocent and trusting. they find it hard to believe that our government would spray us. yet if you go to the third link at the top of this article, you will find much documentation that shows how they have poisoned us without our knowing over the years. ALL THE DOCUMENTATION YOU WILL EVER NEED IS THERE! Please educate yourself and open your eyes to what is happening in our skies. thank you.
 

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I saw chemtrails today from downtown. There were at least a dozen or more, all over. There was some x patterns as well. There was a marked difference between the clouds outside of town, and all the "clouds" that were floating in semi dispersed lines over Santa Cruz. Other people I was with saw them too.
 

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To the debunkers

Chemtrails outlaw
The government says they don’t exist, but Kucinich wants Congress to take action

by Bob Fitrakis

The debate surrounding the federal government’s alleged weather modification experiments has landed in the U.S. Capitol, thanks to Cleveland Democrat Dennis Kucinich. Representative Kucinich introduced the Space Preservation Act of 2001 on October 2 last year, seeking a “permanent ban on [the] basing of weapons in space.?

The bill, HR 2977, specifically outlaws a variety of weapons detailed in the December 6, 2001, Columbus Alive article “Stormy Weather,? which exposed allegations of secret government aerial spraying activities. Kucinich’s bill explicitly outlaws “chemtrails.?

Alive asked Kucinich why he would introduce a bill banning so-called chemtrails when the U.S. government routinely denies such things exist and the U.S. Air Force has routinely called chemtrail sightings “a hoax.?

“The truth is there’s an entire program in the Department of Defense, ‘Vision for 2020,’ that’s developing these weapons,? Kucinich responded. Kucinich says he plans to reintroduce a broader version of the bill later this month. “Plasma, electromagnetics, sonic or ultrasonic weapons [and] laser weapons systems? were among those banned by HR 2977.

Two scientists working at Wright Patterson Air Force Base informed Alive of the ongoing secret experiments, one involving weather modification and the other involving the creation of an aerial antenna using a barium stearate chemical trail. The scientists referred to the work of legendary inventor Nikola Tesla. Before Ronald Reagan’s Strategic Defense Initiative (or “Star Wars?), there was Tesla’s vision of high-tech space-based warfare and weather modification.

According to Tesla biographer Margaret Cheney, federal agents seized Tesla’s papers after his death in 1943. “[At] least one set of Tesla’s papers had reached Wright Field [now Wright Patterson Air Force Base],? Cheney wrote. The Aeronautic Systems Division at Wright Patterson admitted it had the Tesla papers but claim they were “destroyed.?

However, Tesla’s dream is embodied in a glossy brochure titled “Vision for 2020? released by the U.S. Space Command in 1998. The brochure states, “The emerging synergy of space superiority with land, sea and air superiority will lead to Full Spectrum Dominance.?

The Space Command spells out its purpose pretty plainly: “Dominating the space dimension of military operations to protect U.S. interests and investment.?

There’s nothing new here, for those who have been paying attention. In the 1970s, Jimmy Carter’s National Security Advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski, bluntly stated in his book Between Two Ages, “Technology will make available, to the leaders of major nations, techniques for conducting secret warfare, of which only a bare minimum of the security forces need to be appraised… [T]echniques of weather modification could be employed to produce prolonged periods of drought or storm.?

On January 4 this year, Canadian Professor Michel Chossudovsky, of the Center for Research on Globalization at the University of Ottawa, issued a report noting that weapons have the ability to trigger climate changes. “Both the Americans and the Russians have developed capabilities to manipulate the world’s climate. In the U.S., the technology is being perfected under the High-frequency Active Aural Research Program (HAARP) as part of the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI),? Chossudovsky wrote. “Recent scientific evidence suggests that HAARP is fully operational and has the ability of potentially triggering floods, droughts, hurricanes and earthquakes. From a military standpoint, HAARP is a weapon of mass destruction.?

Doubters of the military’s secret plans should refer to George and Meredith Friedman’s The Future of War, Power, Technology and American World Dominance in the 21st Century. The Friedmans, government-touted “arms experts? and favorites of the military-industrial complex, assert that “The American experience of power will rest on the domination of space.?

The U.S. Air Force giddily embraced the Friedmans’ thesis in the 1996 report “New World Vistas: Air And Space Power For The 21st Century.? The Air Force report notes, “In the next two decades, new technologies will allow the fielding of space-based weapons of devastating effectiveness to be used to deliver energy and mass as force projection in tactical and strategic conflict.?

State University of New York Professor of Journalism Karl Grossman, writing in 1999, revealed how the mainstream corporate press virtually ignores the government’s pronouncements while trade journals like Space News, Defense News, Aviation Week, Space Technology and Electronic Engineering Times routinely report on the military-industrial complex’s high-tech breakthroughs.

As for chemtrail skeptics, they might want to consult Rutgers University Political Science Professor Leonard Cole’s book Clouds of Secrecy: The Army’s Germ Warfare Test Over Populated Areas. Chemtrail deniers are apparently happy with the thought that their beloved paternalistic government would engage in aerial spraying over densely populated areas.

U.S. Representative Marty Sabo, a Democrat from Minnesota, denounced “the secret Army program to spray Minneapolis and other cities with chemicals in the 1950s and ’60s,? the Minneapolis Star Tribune reported in September 1994. “The idea that the government would use its own citizens as guinea pigs is appalling, and I condemn it in the strongest possible terms,? Sabo told a House subcommittee investigating the secret spraying, which used fluorescent tracers to mark wind patterns.

As for the Army, it argues that the secret Cold War-era spraying was not “human experimentation? since it didn’t target any specific individuals and the zinc cadmium sulfide used was harmless. But the International Agency for Research on Cancer lists all cadmium compounds as known cancer-causing agents.

Former students of Clinton Elementary in south Minneapolis told an investigating panel from the National Research Council that the Army’s secret chemical spraying adversely affected their health, according to the Star Tribune.

Skeptics who continue to insist the government would never be involved in secret aerial spraying, particularly in Ohio, may want to address their questions to the C-130 aircrews from the 910th Airlift Wing stationed at Youngstown’s Air Reserve Station. In July 2000, an Air Force press release bragged, “Fifteen service members from military installations in Germany and England were at Ramstein Air Base, Germany, 8-12 May, learning how to use chemicals to destroy the enemy… The seven airmen and eight soldiers learned how to plan, execute and oversee the entire process of applying pesticides by air.? The press release said the Youngstown air unit will only be used against “insects with their deadly diseases.?

Apparently insects take many forms. During the Seattle demonstrations against the World Trade Organization in November 1999, CNN reported that a military air unit with pathogen capacity to induce sickness in humans was deployed against the demonstrators.

January 24, 2002

Note: They are real, very real. I have seen them since moving her in 1998. Debunker=sheeple
 

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Think for yourself. Make your own conclusions. Still don't believe chemtrails are real? Go to this site and check out the massive amount of evidence. You will soon see for yourself that there is no question at all about the reality of chemtrails. They are spraying Santa Cruz almost daily.

www.lightwatcher.com/chemtrails/hos.html
 

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Finally - A Chemtrail
Aerosol Breakthrough?
By Clifford E Carnicom
7-27-3


Note - We know Clifford Carnicom to be as fine a private sector citizen/patriot researcher as we have ever worked with. His numerous appearances on the program addressing and presenting his tireless efforts to scientifically resolve the chemtrail aerosol mystery are remarkable, graphic testimony to his studied, determined, methodical approach to unmasking this ongoing aerial operation. Therefore, we take seriously the following news release from Clifford.
The portion of the statement regarding a SARS '80% mortality rate' suggests an enthno-specific bioweapon aimed at the mainland Chinese Asian population. As we know, SARS and apparent mutations thereof, made their way to Canada (and the US) primarily via Asians who had been in - or had come into contact with people who had been in - the SARS hot zones in China and Hong Kong. In fact, the recent list of photos of SARS fatalities in Canada showed that the vast majority of victims were Asian in national origin. We are taking all of this under advisement with an open mind and will watch to see what kind of feedback and comments come in. -ed

A Meeting
By Clifford E Carnicom
7-26-3
A meeting has taken place recently between an investigative researcher and a well placed military source. The identity of both parties is to be protected. The source has intimate knowledge of at least one aspect of the aerosol operations, and asserts the following:
1. The operation is a joint project between the Pentagon and the pharmaceutical industry.
2. The Pentagon wishes to test biological diseases for war purposes on unsuspecting populations. It was stated that SARS is a failure as the expected rate of mortality was intended to be 80%.
3. The pharmaceutical industry is making trillions on medications designed to treat both fatal and non-fatal diseases given to populations.
4. The bacteria and viruses are freeze-dried and then placed on fine filaments for release.
5. The metals released along with the diseases heat up from the sun, creating a perfect environment for the bacteria and viruses to thrive in the air supply.
6. Most countries being sprayed are unaware of the activities and they have not consented to the activities. He states that commercial aircraft flying are one of the delivery systems.
7. Most of the "players" are old friends and business partners of the senior Bush.
8. The ultimate goal is the control of all populations through directed and accurate spraying of drugs, diseases, etc.
9. People who have tried to reveal the truth have been imprisoned and killed.
10. This is the most dangerous and dark time that I have experienced in all of my years of serving this country.
This information is relayed without qualification, as I am knowledgeable in the level of integrity of the researcher that has made this information available to the public. There is both risk and restraint that has been exercised in the preparation of this statement.
Clifford E Carnicom
Jul 26 2003
www.carnicom.com/meeting.htm

Comment
From Marjorie Tietjen
7-28-3
Jeff,
I agree with Dianne Harvey. I certainly believe there is biological experimentation taking place on the public without our consent. However, it seems to me that, as Dianne says , spraying entire countries with biological warfare agents...whether to just test the substances or whether it's to specifially harm us....is not a very direct or sure way of accomplishing their supposed goal. Vaccines, flouride in the water supply, infecting ticks and mosquitoes with genetically engineered viruses and bacteria, etc, would seem to be more effective in targeting certain portions of the population. Unless the "elite" all live underground, they would also be affected by mass aerial spraying. Clifford's explanation may be part of the picture but I really don't believe it explains the main purpose of chemtrails. I suppose TPTB could concievably be vaccinated for all these different microbes....but what about all the metallic particles, polymers, barium, etc?
Marge Tietjen
Comment
From CM Ross
7-28-3
Dear Jeff,
Thank you for your courageous work in exposing the truth about chemtrails.
I am in complete agreement with you and complete disagreement with Diane Harvey on the subject of why chemtrails exist. Having studied population control issues for 11 years now, I think that there is a commitment by international leadership to dramatically lower the population by whatever means at their disposal. Fluoride, abortion, aspartame, birth control, vaccines, etc. are not enough. Former US Secretary of State Robert Mcnamara said as much in an explosive interview in "Paris Match" several years ago. Here is another of his quotes on it from 1979:
"There are only 2 possible ways a world of 10 Billion people can be averted. Either the current Birth rates must come down more quickly or current death rates must go up. There is no other way. There are of course many ways in which the death rates can go up. In a thermonuclear age, Wars can accomplish it very quickly and decisively. Famine and disease are nature's ancient check on population growth and neither one has disappeared from the scene. To put it simply: Excessive population growth is the greatest obstacle to the economic and social advancement of most societies of the developing world." [emphasis added] (Robert Mcnamara, October 2, 1979). www.africa2000.com/INDX/tukur.html
It is too bad that Mcnamara did not notice that the densest part of the USA is Manhattan at rush hour, where the people are, for the most part, rich and well-fed; and that New Jersey, which is much more densely populated than Red China, also has a much higher income than Red China. My point: it's having more people that makes a wealthier population, not fewer of them.
At any rate:
For more evidence of plans to greatly reduce the population by disease, see:
www.sweetliberty.org/nobarbarians1.htm and
www.radioliberty.com/pca.htm
Consider this quote:
"In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation" HRH Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh at a lecture in 1986
www.propagandamatrix.com/prince.html
When the husband of a reigning sovereign is permitted to make remarks of this sort and is not shouted down for them, it makes you wonder if there is more to chemtrails and the strange deaths of microbiologists like David Kelly than meets the eye.
This article at www.mercola.com/2001/sep/8/mycoplasma.htm demonstrates that the Canadian Government tested the dropping of carcinogens on the people of Winnipeg, Manitoba in 1953. As far as I know, the people of Winnipeg were not consulted as to whether or not they wished to be human guinea pigs for the experiment. This article mentions that the subways of New York were tested, too:
gslc.genetics.utah.edu/features/biowarfare/
Can you imagine the government telling the people of New York: "Oh Hi folks, we're going to do a few little harmless biowarfare tests on you. Nothing to worry about, you understand." I don't think so. And the same holds true for chemtrails.
As for the notion that they are not targeting the Asian race, I am sure they are. Birth control was originally known as race control. Obviously, birth control and abortion have not worked as well as they had hoped in China and the rest of the world, or else AIDS would not be decimating Africa, now would it?
Keep up the good work,
Miss CM Ross
Comment
From Linda Porter
7-29-3
Jeff, this story is correct.
Remember when I emailed you about 3 years ago with the accounts of my MILAB experience, and the story the eight military men had told me about chemtrail consisting of designer bacteria developed to decimate segments of certain races?
 

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Feature Story - The Chemtrail Smoking Gun - Proof of Global Geoengineering Projects
illustration - by Bruce Conway / revised 6.20.03 / Lightwatcher Publishing

forward: For the past few years investigators and researchers have been searching for hard evidence on the elusive phenomena of chemtrail spraying. If one searches GoogleNews for articles on chemtrails in (with 4500 periodicals represented) not one article will be found. There is simply no coverage on this topic in the mainstream media.

Imagine our surprise when we discovered extensive proof of government involvement, funding, sponsorship, multidisciplinary research, policy making and implementation of global atmospheric modification under the classification of 'Geoengineering.' This is the chemtrail smoking gun we have been looking for.

Authorized by Congress and sponsored by the National Academy of Sciences, a monumental and in-depth study on global warming and possible corrective measures (mitigations) was undertaken in the early 1990s. Represented were senior researchers, faculty, theoreticians, atmospheric scientists, department heads and CEO's from a multitude of prestigious institutions. The Smithsonian, Harvard, General Motors, Cambridge, MIT, Yale, World Resources Institute, National Center for Atmospheric Research, the Secretary General of the United Nations, Oxford, Brookings Institution, Columbia University, Oak Ridge National Laboratory, Carnegie-Mellon University, Princeton University, Brown University, Lawrence Livermore Laboratory, and many more. This colossal study recalls the scope, expense and secrecy of the Manhattan Project, yet the goals and eventual impacts of it are far greater.


The Chemtrail Smoking Gun
Proof of global atmospheric geoengineering
by: Bruce Conway

"There are more things in heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt in your philosophy." - Shakespeare

Five years ago I founded the Chemtrails Hall of Shame web site to document and investigate the elusive Chemtrail spraying operations in the skies above my home in the Pacific NW. The site can be found at: www.lightwatcher.com
During this time I have had the opportunity to work with and befriend several of the luminaries within this field of investigation: Diane Harvey, Brian Holmes and a very special investigator who chooses to remain anonymous in this article. Each of these individuals has contributed greatly to the subject, keeping this topic alive within the alternative media . These chemtrail spraying programs, which are apparently being conducted on a worldwide basis, are evident to anyone who has the desire to look up and perceive the evidence. Yet, definitive proof has remained elusive.

Total denial by governmental authorities, the shunning of this topic by mainstream media, the systematic discreditation of researchers, ongoing coverups by the scientific establishment, and a coordinated systematic policy of disinformation has relegated this topic to the realm of fantasy and paranoid delusion. Regardless, it continues to go on above our heads, and has now grown to become the largest coordinated global engineering project in the history of our species. How can I make such a preposterous claim?

Brian Holmes of www.holmestead.ca has investigated these eco-crimes for the past several years. Because of his efforts, many within Canada and on the net have become aware of the ongoing spraying operations. Like other serious investigators who have studied this phenomena, Brian's work has been maligned, and there are ongoing attempts to discredit him and his sources.

Some months ago, a Chemtrail insider that Brian nicknamed 'Deep Shield' came forward with specific and detailed information about this mysterious program, corresponding with him via e-mail. A transcript of the communications with Deep Shield and the Shield Project can be read online at: www.holmestead.ca/chemtrails/shieldproject.html. For those of us who have studied chemtrails carefully, the revealing dialog rang of the truth.

Since then we have been able to study, and verify a number of Deep Shield's primary claims. The anonymous insider gave Brian's readers some valuable clues to follow if they wished to investigate deeper into the history and hard science of chemtrails. A primary clue was to investigate the term 'geoengineering.'

One investigator took the clues provided by 'Deep Shield' and dug in. She eventually found an N.A.S. study on Geoengineering and the Mitigation of Global Warming. This study is still available online and is also available in hardcover. This massive document validates the insider information provided by Deep Shield, and has lead to an additional gold mine of evidence.

This massive research study is entitled: Policy Implications of Greenhouse Warming: Mitigation, Adaptation, and the Science Base - Panel on Policy Implications of Greenhouse Warming, sponsored by the National Academy of Sciences, National Academy of Engineering, and the Institute of Medicine. The results were presented in 1992 and published in book form in 2000 by the National Academy Press. This 994 page study is the textbook on greenhouse gasses, global warming, policy decisions and mitigation's (corrective measures). Included within is the hard science many chemtrails researchers have been searching for: the scientists, agencies, institutions and corporations involved, cost factors, chemical formula, mathematical modeling, delivery methods, policies, recruiting of foreign governments, acquisition of materials, and the manufacturing of aerosol compounds, ect.

This entire volume can presently be read online at: books.nap.edu/books/0309043867/html/index.html. Keep in mind that this study is only the tip of the iceberg. Literally hundreds of papers on related topics have been published in scientific journals. We don't expect this featured study to remian online for long once the cat is out of the bag. So do check it out soon.

The full involvement of foremost government agencies, research firms, universities and private corporations are detailed in this global 'geoengineering' study. Keep in mind that this was approved by and funded by Congress. We expect that this documentation will bolster the beliefs of most hardcore chemtrail believers. It will also continue to undermining what little trust still remains in our leaders and their institutions. This documentation proves that they have lied repeatedly about their involvement and the existence of chemtrail spraying programs.

It alsp appears that we 'Chemtrail' investigators have been chasing our tails, being intentionally discredited, maligned, and fed disinformation to keep the actual truth just below the levels of media perception. The real story has been taking place in broad daylight, safely concealed under the scientific umbrella of 'Geoengineering and intentional climate change.'

Chemtrails are just one of the 'mitigations' proposed to Geoengineering our planet. Once we began sifting through the numerous studies, experiments and papers written on intentional climate change, we found a wealth of supporting evidence of well funded global atmospheric modification programs. One such paper is Geoengineering: A Climate Change Manhattan Project www.metatronics.net/lit/geo2.html (Jay Michaelson, published in the Stanford Environmental Law Journal, January, 1998)

The author makes a very convincing case for the pressing need of undertaking geoengineering projects. He argues that regulation, environmental laws and other stumbling blocks limit our ability to directly address the dangers that threaten us directly and immediately. He writes: "The projected insufficiency of Kyoto's emission reduction regime, and the problems of absence, cost, and incentives discussed in part II, cry out for an alternative to our present state of climate change policy myopia."

"Geoengineering--intentional, human-directed manipulation of the Earth's climatic systems--may be such an alternative. This part proposes that, unlike a regulatory "Marshall Plan" of costly emissions reductions, technology subsidies, and other mitigation measures, a non-regulatory "Manhattan Project" geared toward developing feasible geoengineering remedies for climate change can meaningfully close the gaps in global warming and avert many of its most dire consequences."

"In some ways, this phase has already begun, as geoengineering has moved from the pages of science fiction to respectable scientific and policy journals. [FN127] One of the most encouraging proposals today focuses on the creation of vast carbon sinks by artificially stimulating phytoplankton growth with iron "fertilizer" in parts of the Earth's oceans. [FN128] Another proposal suggests creating miniature, *106 artificial "Mount Pinatubos" by allowing airplanes to release dust particles into the upper atmosphere, simulating the greenhouse- arresting eruption of Mount Pinatubo in 1991. [FN129]" pp. 105-106, Geoengineering: A Climate Change Manhattan Project."

In Policy Implications of Greenhouse Warming: Mitigation, Adaptation, and the Science Bases conclusion, the N.A.S. found that the most effective global warming mitigation turned out to be the spraying of reflective aerosol compounds into the atmosphere utilizing commercial, military and private aircraft. This preferred mitigation method is designed to create a global atmospheric shield which would increase the planet's albedo (reflectivity) using aerosol compounds of aluminum and barium oxides, and to introduce ozone generating chemicals into the atmosphere.

This method was the most cost effective, and yielded the largest benefits. It could also be conducted covertly to avoid the burdens of environmental protection and regulatory entanglements.

It is evident to anyone who cares to look up, that this mitigation is now being conducted worldwide and on a daily basis. It is certain that our leaders have already embarked on an immense geoengineering project; one in which they expect millions of human fatalities, and consider these to be acceptable losses.

This landmark study; the widespread experimentation and published papers of atmospheric theorists and scientists, combined with the visual evidence that atmospheric mitigations are being conducted in our skies, clearly shows that Chemtrail spraying has became a preferred solution to global warming mitigation.

The evidence is all around us. For example; this past week Boeing Aircraft received an enormous initial order from the Pentagon for 100 Boeing 767 tanker planes, to begin replacing the Air Force's aging fleet of KC-135s, the most commonly seen chemtrail spray plane. The final order will exceed 500 planes. There has been no mention of the usage of these aircraft.

Geoengineering is being carried on Earth on a staggering scale, without the impediment of environmental laws or regulatory constraints. This grand experiment is being conducted in full view, while being concealed in plain sight.

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The following excerpts detail the preferred geoengineering Mitigations for reducing greenhouse gasses, global warming and radiation from space. Quoted from: Policy Implications of Greenhouse Warming: Mitigation, Adaptation, and the Science Base - Panel on Policy Implications of Greenhouse Warming



Evaluating Geoengineering Options
"Several geoengineering options appear to have considerable potential for offsetting global warming and are much less expensive than other options being considered. Because these options have the potential to affect the radiative forcing of the planet, because some of them cause or alter a variety of chemical reactions in the atmosphere, and because the climate system is poorly understood, such options must be considered extremely carefully. These options might be needed if greenhouse warming occurs, climate sensitivity is at the high end of the range considered in this report, and other efforts to restrain greenhouse gas emissions fail."

"The first set of geoengineering options screens incoming solar radiation with dust or soot in orbit about the earth or in the atmosphere. The second set changes cloud abundance by increasing cloud condensation nuclei through carefully controlled emissions of particulate matter."

"The stratospheric particle options should be pursued only under extreme conditions or if additional research and development removes the concern about these problems. The cloud stimulation option should be examined further and could be pursued if concerns about acid rain could be managed through the choice of materials for cloud condensation nuclei or by careful management of the system. The third class increases ocean absorption of CO2 through stimulating growth of biological organisms."

Screening Out Some Sunlight
"Another option for mitigating a global warming would be to try to control the global radiation balance by limiting the amount of incoming radiation from the sun. This could be done by increasing the reflectivity of the earth, i.e., the albedo. Proposals for increasing the whiteness of roofs and surface features would have some effect, but only a fraction of incident solar radiation reaches the earth's surface and a purposeful change in albedo would have more impact if done high in the atmosphere. According to Ramanathan (1988), an increase in planetary albedo of just 0.5 percent is sufficient to halve the effect of a CO2 doubling. Placing a screen in the atmosphere or low earth orbit could take several forms: it could involve changing the quantity or character of cloud cover, it could take the form of a continuous sheet, or it could be divided into many ''mirrors" or a cloud of dust. Preliminary characterizations of some of the possibilities that might be considered are provided below."


Stratospheric Dust
"Although the space dust option does not appear to be sensible, computations of the residence times of 0.2-µm dust above 20 to 40 km are of the order of 1 to 3 years (Hunten, 1975). It seems to be generally accepted that volcanic aerosols remain in the stratosphere for several years (Kellogg and Schneider, 1974; Ramaswamy and Kiehl, 1985). A screen could be created in the stratosphere by adding more dust to the natural stratospheric dust to increase its net reflection of sunlight."

Mass Estimates
"Ramaswamy and Kiehl (1985) estimate that an aerosol dust loading of 0.2 g/m2 for dust with a radius of about 0.26 µm increases the planetary albedo by 12 percent, resulting in a 15 percent decrease of solar flux reaching the surface. Since an approximately 1 percent change in solar flux is required, and their Figures 13 and 15 suggest that, at these loadings, the dust effects may reasonably be extrapolated downward linearly, estimates will be made by using a dust loading of 0.02 g/m2 with a particle radius of 0.26 µm."

"The dust in Ramaswamy and Kiehl's model is distributed between 10 and 30 km in the stratosphere, uniformly over the globe. The actual effect on radiative forcing of a global distribution of additional dust would be somewhat greater at low than at high latitudes because more of the sunlight is effective there for geometric reasons. This would decrease slightly the equator-to-pole temperature gradients and might have some effect on weather intensity. Presumably, this effect can also be studied with global climate models."

Delivery Scenarios
"Aircraft Exhaust Penner et al. (1984) suggested that emissions of 1 percent of the fuel mass of the commercial aviation fleet as particulates, between 40,000- and 100,000-foot (12- to 30-km) altitude for a 10-year period, would change the planetary albedo sufficiently to neutralize the effects of an equivalent doubling of CO2. They proposed that retuning the engine combustion systems to burn rich during the high-altitude portion of commercial flights could be done with negligible efficiency loss. Using Reck's estimates of extinction coefficients for particulates (Reck, 1979a, 1984), they estimated a requirement of about 1.168 ¥ 1010 kg of particulates, compared with the panel's estimate of 1010 kg, based upon Ramaswamy and Kiehl (1985). They then estimated that if 1 percent of the fuel of aircraft flying above 30,000 feet is emitted as soot, over a 10-year period the required mass of particulate material would be emitted.
However, current commercial aircraft fleets seldom operate above 40,000 feet (12 km), and the lifetimes of particles at the operating altitudes will be much shorter than 10 years."

"An alternate possibility is simply to lease commercial aircraft to carry dust to their maximum flight altitude, where they would distribute it. To make a cost estimate, a simple assumption is made that the same amount of dust assumed above for the stratosphere would work for the tropopause (the boundary between the troposphere and the stratosphere). The results can be scaled for other amounts. The comments made above about the possible effect of dust on stratospheric ozone apply as well to ozone in the low stratosphere, but not in the troposphere. The altitude of the tropopause varies with latitude and season of the year."

"In 1987, domestic airlines flew 4,339 million ton-miles of freight and express, for a total express and freight operating revenue of $4,904 million (U.S. Bureau of the Census, 1988). This gives a cost of slightly more than $1 per ton-mile for freight. If a dust distribution mission requires the equivalent of a 500-mile flight (about 1.5 hours), the delivery cost for dust is $500/t, and ignoring the difference between English and metric tons, a cost of $0.50/kg of dust. If 1010 kg must be delivered each 83 days, (provided dust falls out at the same rate as soot), 5 times more than the 1987 total ton-miles will be required."

"The question of whether dedicated aircraft could fly longer distances at the same effective rate should be investigated."

Changing Cloud Abundance - The Approach
"Independent studies estimated that an approximately 4 percent increase in the coverage of marine stratocumulus clouds would be sufficient to offset CO2 doubling (Reck, 1978; Randall et al., 1984). Albrecht (1989) suggests that the average low-cloud reflectivity could be increased if the abundance of cloud condensation nuclei (CCN) increased due to emissions of SO2. It is proposed that CCN emissions should be released over the oceans, that the release should produce an increase in the stratocumulus cloud albedo only, and that the clouds should remain at the same latitudes over the ocean where the surface albedo is relatively constant and small."

"Albrecht (1989) estimates that a roughly 30 percent increase in CCN would be necessary to increase the fractional cloudiness or albedo of marine stratocumulus clouds by 4 percent. Albrecht's idealized stratocumulus cloud, which he argues is typical, has a thickness of 375 m, a drizzle rate of 1 mm per day, and a mean droplet radius of 100 mm, and he assumes that each droplet is formed by the coalescence of 1000 smaller droplets. The rate at which the CCN are depleted by his model is 1000/cm3 per day. Consequently, about 300/cm3 per day (30 percent of 1000) of additional CCN would have to be discharged per day at the base of the cloud to maintain a 4 percent increase in cloudiness. This assumes that the perturbed atmosphere would also remain sufficiently close to saturation in the vicinity of the CCN that additional cloud cover would be formed every time the number of CCN increased."

Mass Estimates of Cloud Condensation Nuclei
"With Albrecht's assumption in mind that cloudiness in a typical ocean region is limited by the small number of CCN, we now extrapolate to the entire globe. On the average, 31.2 percent of the globe is covered by marine stratiform clouds (Charlson et al., 1987). If no high-level clouds are present, the number n of CCN that need to be added per day is 1.8 ¥ 1025 CCN/day. The mass of a CCN is equal to 4/3pr3 ¥ density, and it is assumed that the mean radius r is equal to 0.07 ¥ 10-4 cm (Charlson et al., 1987). Because the density of sulfuric acid (H2SO4) is 1.841 g/cm3, the CCN mass is 2.7 ¥ 10-15 g. The total weight of H2SO4 to be added per day is 31 ¥ 103 t per day SO2 if all SO2 is converted to H2SO4 CCN.
To put this number in perspective, a medium-sized coal-fired U.S. power plant emits about this much SO2 in a year. Consequently, the equivalent emissions of 365 U.S. coal-burning power plants, distributed homogeneously, would be needed to produce sufficient CCN."

"Cloud stimulation by provision of cloud condensation nuclei appears to be a feasible and low-cost option capable of being used to mitigate any quantity of CO2 equivalent per year. Details of the cloud physics, verification of the amount of CCN to be added for a particular degree of mitigation, and the possible acid rain or other effects of adding CCN over the oceans need to be investigated before such system is put to use. Once a decision has been made, the system could be mobilized and begin to operate in a year or so, and mitigation effects would be immediate. If the system were stopped, the mitigation effect would presumably cease very rapidly, within days or weeks, as extra CCN were removed by rain and drizzle."

"Several schemes depend on the effect of additional dust compounds in the stratosphere or very low stratosphere screening out sunlight. Such dust might be delivered to the stratosphere by various means, including being fired with large rifles or rockets or being lifted by hydrogen or hot-air balloons. These possibilities appear feasible, economical, and capable of mitigating the effect of as much CO2 equivalent per year as we care to pay for. (Lifting dust, or soot, to the tropopause or the low stratosphere with aircraft may be limited, at low cost, to the mitigation of 8 to 80 Gt CO2 equivalent per year.) Such systems could probably be put into full effect within a year or two of a decision to do so, and mitigation effects would begin immediately. Because dust falls out naturally, if the delivery of dust were stopped, mitigation effects would cease within about 6 months for dust (or soot) delivered to the tropopause and within a couple of years for dust delivered to the midstratosphere."

"Sunlight screening systems would not have to be put into practice until shortly before they were needed for mitigation, although research to understand their effects, as well as design and engineering work, should be done now so that it will be known whether these technologies are available if wanted."

"Perhaps one of the surprises of this analysis is the relatively low costs at which some of the geoengineering options might be implemented."

(end of excerpts)
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Following is a partial list of those involved in this monumental study:

(former Senator) DANIEL J. EVANS
(Chairman), Chairman, Daniel J. Evans & Associates, Seattle, Washington

ROBERT McCORMICK ADAMS, Secretary, Smithsonian Institution, Washington, D.C.

GEORGE F. CARRIER, T. Jefferson Coolidge Professor of Applied Mathematics, Emeritus, Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts

RICHARD N. COOPER, Professor of Economics, Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts

ROBERT A. FROSCH, Vice President, General Motors Research Laboratories, Warren, Michigan

THOMAS H. LEE, Professor Emeritus, Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge, Massachusetts

JESSICA TUCHMAN MATHEWS, Vice President, World Resources Institute, Washington, D.C.

WILLIAM D. NORDHAUS, Professor of Economics, Yale University, New Haven, Connecticut

GORDON H. ORIANS, Professor of Zoology and Director of the Institute for Environmental Studies, University of Washington, Seattle

STEPHEN H. SCHNEIDER, Head, Interdisciplinary Climate Systems, National Center for Atmospheric Research, Boulder, Colorado

MAURICE STRONG, Secretary General, United Nations Conference on Environment and Development, New York (resigned from panel February 1990)

SIR CRISPIN TICKELL, Warden, Green College, Oxford, England
VICTORIA J. TSCHINKEL, Senior Consultant, Landers, Parsons and Uhlfelder, Tallahassee, Florida

PAUL E. WAGGONER, Distinguished Scientist, The Connecticut Agricultural Experiment Station, New Haven

PETER BREWER, Executive Director, Monterey Bay Aquarium and Research Center, Pacific Grove, California

RICHARD N. COOPER, Professor of Economics, Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts

ROBERT CRANDALL, Senior Fellow, Brookings Institution, Washington, D.C.

ROBERT EVENSON, Professor of Economics, Yale University, Economic Growth Center, New Haven, Connecticut

DOUGLAS FOY, Executive Director, Conservation Law Foundation, Boston, Massachusetts

ROBERT A. FROSCH, Vice President, General Motors Research Laboratories, Warren, Michigan

RICHARD GARWIN, Fellow, Thomas J. Watson Research Center, Yorktown Heights, New York, and Adjunct Professor of Physics, Columbia University, New York

JOSEPH GLAS, Director, Vice President, and General Manager, Fluorochemicals Division, E.I. du Pont, Wilmington, Delaware

KAI N. LEE, Professor and Director, Center for Environmental Studies, Williams College, Williamstown, Massachusetts

GREGG MARLAND, Scientist, Environmental Science Division, Oak Ridge National Laboratory, Oak Ridge, Tennessee

JESSICA TUCHMAN MATHEWS, Vice President, World Resources Institute, Washington, D.C.

ARTHUR H. ROSENFELD, Professor of Physics, University of California, Berkeley, and Director, Center for Building Science, Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, Berkeley, California

EDWARD S. RUBIN, Professor, Mechanical Engineering and Public Policy, and Director, Center for Energy and Environmental Studies, Carnegie-Mellon University, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

MILTON RUSSELL, Professor of Economics and Senior Fellow, University of Tennessee, Knoxville, and Collaborating Scientist, Oak Ridge National Laboratory, Oak Ridge, Tennessee

STEPHEN H. SCHNEIDER, Head, Interdisciplinary Climate Systems, National Center for Atmospheric Research, Boulder, Colorado

EUGENE B. SKOLNIKOFF, Professor of Political Science, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge

THOMAS H. STIX, Professor, Department of Astrophysics and Plasma Physics Laboratory, Princeton University, Princeton, New Jersey

EDITH BROWN WEISS, Professor of Law, Georgetown University, Washington, D.C. (resigned from panel October 1990)

GEORGE F. CARRIER (Chairman), T. Jefferson Coolidge Professor of Applied Mathematics, Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts

WILFRIED BRUTSAERT, Professor of Hydrology, Civil and Environmental Engineering, Cornell University, Ithaca, New York

ROBERT D. CESS, Leading Professor, State University of New York, Stony Brook

HERMAN CHERNOFF, Professor of Statistics, Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts

ROBERT E. DICKINSON, Professor, Institute of Atmospheric Physics, Department of Atmospheric Sciences, University of Arizona, Tucson

JOHN IMBRIE, H.L. Doherty Professor of Oceanography, Department of Geological Sciences, Brown University, Providence, Rhode Island

THOMAS B. KARL, Meteorologist, Climate Research and Applications, National Climate Data Center, Asheville, North Carolina

MICHAEL C. MacCRACKEN, Physicist and Division Leader, Atmospheric and Geophysical Sciences, Lawrence Livermore Laboratory, University of California, Livermore

BERRIEN MOORE, Professor and Director, Institute for the Study of Earth, Oceans, and Space, University of New Hampshire, Durham

Staff
ROB COPPOCK, Staff Director
DEBORAH D. STINE, Staff Officer
NANCY A. CROWELL, Administrative Specialist
MARION R. ROBERTS, Administrative Secretary

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Papers of special interest to Chemtrail Investigators

Jay Michaelson 1998 Geoengineering: A climate change Manhattan Project - Stanford Environmental Law Journal January - www.metatronics.net/lit/geo2.html

Edward Teller (director emeritus, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory), "The Planet Needs a Sunscreen" Wall Street Journal, October 17, 1997. - www.ncpa.org/pi/enviro/envpd/pdenv125.html

Climate Change 2001: Working Group III: Mitigation - by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change - www.grida.no/climate/ipcc_tar/wg3/index.htm

Ramanathan, V. 1988. The greenhouse theory of climate change: A test by an inadvertent experiment. Science 243:293­299 www.gfdl.gov/~gth/netscape/authors/ramaswamy.html

Schimel, D., D. Alves, I. Enting, M. Heimann, F. Joos, D. Raynaud, T., Wigley, M. Prather, R. Derwent, D. Ehhalt, P. Fraser, E. Sanheuza, X., Zhou, P. Jonas, R. Charlson, H. Rodhe, S., Sadasivan, K. P. Shine, Y. Fouquart, V. Ramaswamy, S. Solomon, J., Srinivasan, D. Albritton, I. Isaksen, M. Lal, and D. Wuebbles, 1996: Radiative forcing of climate change. In Climate Change 1995: The Science of Climate Change, Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 69-131. www.gfdl.gov/~gth/netscape/authors/ramaswamy.html

Ramaswamy, V., R. J. Charlson, J. A. Coakley, J. L. Gras, Harshvardhan, G. Kukla, M. P. McCormick, D. Moller, E. Roeckner, L. L. Stowe, and J. Taylor, 1995: Group report: what are the observed and anticipated meteorological and climatic responses to aerosol forcing? In Aerosol Forcing of Climate, Vol. 20. John Wiley & Sons Ltd., 386-399.
www.gfdl.gov/~gth/netscape/authors/ramaswamy.html

Ramaswamy, V., 1988: Aerosol radiative forcing and model responses. In Aerosols and Climate, A. Deepak Publishing, 349-372
www.gfdl.gov/~gth/netscape/authors/ramaswamy.htm

Ramaswamy, V., and J. T. Kiehl. 1985. Sensitivities of the radiative forcing due to large loadings of smoke and dust aerosols. Journal of Geophysical Research 90(D3):5597­5613. www.gfdl.gov/~gth/netscape/authors/ramaswamy.html

Reck, R. A. 1984. Climatic Impact of Jet Engine Distribution of Alumina (Al2O3): Theoretical Evidence for Moderation of Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Effects. Report GMR-4740. Warren, Mich.: General Motors Research Laboratories, and paper presented to the American Geophysical Union, San Francisco, Calif., December 1984.

Hunten, D. M. 1975. Residence times of aerosols and gases in the stratosphere. Geophysical Research Letters 2(1):26­27.

Mueller, A. C., and D. J. Kessler. 1985. The effects of particulates from solid rocket motors fired in space. Advances in Space Research 5(2):77­86.
 

Re: CHEMTRAIL SPRAYING OVER SANTA CRUZ CONTINUES

Interesting, I haven't seen the typical spraying in months. I have seen this grey haze that I never saw back in 97 when I first moved here. It was always either blue clear skys or there was some fog and typical clowds. Now it looks like the damn valley.

The I have been working on a roof lately and I keep watching for the planes, but no more X's and O's or Grids. I have noticed however, what I call "Farting Plains". I see them flying along at the typical chem-trail plain altitude and sending only small puffs of what seems to be aerosols.

I too believe we have reached saturation now.
I sure hope someone frys for this, and I hope it's not us.
 

Re: CHEMTRAIL SPRAYING OVER SANTA CRUZ CONTINUES

Look, I have flown in comercial aricraft, and while decending towards San Francisco, have look out and clearly seen Loch Lomond, which is easy to recognize. There are lots of flight patterns that go over lompico the lompic area, but I doubt that any air traffic controlers are going to call it anything but Santa Cruz County.
 

Re: CHEMTRAIL SPRAYING OVER SANTA CRUZ CONTINUES

and let me guess, it is probably causing fibromiagia, parisites, and a host of other undiagnosable ailments? which all seem to require prescription painkillers and lots of pot?... hmmmm... here is some food for thought. There are lots of legitimate flights over the area. There are lots of private flights. There is the forestry in there helecoptors, there are the news coptors, there are the fire and rescue aircraft. There are the law inforcement guys looking for pot feilds. there are people flying in and out of montery to SF and Oakland, and what, all these people are in on it? all this air activity, and no one seems to have a problem with unlisted, unregulated flights? come on! the only thing scary here is the massive, probably drug induced paranoia. or WAIT A MINUTE...maybe my mind is being controlled! and if so it's by these contrails, then YOUR mind is being controlled too! HOW CAN WE TRUST YOU WHEN YOU ARE BEING CONTROLLED BY THE SAME MEN IN BLACK THAT HIDE THE ALIENS FROM US! HELP! AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
 

Re: CHEMTRAIL SPRAYING OVER SANTA CRUZ CONTINUES

its all true! I heard it from a guy I met at the bigfoot center...
 

Re: CHEMTRAIL SPRAYING OVER SANTA CRUZ CONTINUES

sooo... then did Steven King kill John Lennon or not...
 

Re: CHEMTRAIL SPRAYING OVER SANTA CRUZ CONTINUES

GOV. SPRAYING OVER MILWAUKEE ALMOST EVERY DAY, FROM A YEAR AGO.THEY HAVE NEW WAYS TO SPRAY,TO MAKE IT LOOK MORE LIKE CLOUDS, AND MORE NIGHT SPRAYING, SO THE PUBLIC,WAKES UP TO WHAT THEY DON'T KNOW, IS THEY ARE CHEMICAL CLOUD, NOT REAL, AFTER THEY SPRAY, THE DARKER CHEMICALS CAN BE SEEN FALLING ON THE POPULATION, THE PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE BEING EXSPOSED TO , THIS IS THE BIGGEST STORY IN THE WORLD, AND NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO PUT IT ON TV. BECAUSE THE MEDIA IS SO CONTROLED,
 

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