My mistake in misreading "Lebanese militia attacked refugee camps" and associating it with 1982 since the militia in 1985 was Syrian backed. Yes of course this is a horrible tragedy.

In regards to Sabra and Shatila.

The indictment of Sharon and his generals AS WELL AS Lebanese offenders goes farther than Sharon "should have known what was going to happen". It is nearly impossible to round up people, killing and raping, under the eyes and ears of the encircling Israelis without Israeli knowledge and cooperation.

I don't agree with you that those who oppose Israli violence condone violence by others. I believe that the subtlties and nuances of discussion are made somewhat impossible by your pedantic and accusatory tone.