Its very useful to end a thread by disregarding all sources of information which don't agree with you Jake. Using inflamotary language and putting words in peoples mouths help no-one, im part of the Israeli peace movement but even in that movement there are differences of opinion.

You list three demands from Israel and then "together we'll stop the terrorist attacks" is there no need for any action from the PA and Palestinian people? What about media reform, what about throwing out the old textbooks, what about sorting out corruption and the security services? This is a two way process and people like Jake must begin to realise that! Luckily I think Abbas knows this and I hope his approach is more balanced then Jake's.