The paths of the deranged psychopathic liar and his less crazy comrade, the buffoon, have somehow converged and they ended up pounding jointly.
I have no idea what the "Sayan" is, neither do I know 'Awake and Aware'.
What's more, people like SF-IMC's "nessie" and "Factoring in" are the ones driven by Nazi-inspired animosity, which they direct at Zionist Jews. It's a classic act of rabid anti-Zionist projection -- they project their Nazi-like traits onto their most hated Zionist or Israel-defending foes. The Nazis are their Spiritual mentors.
Though I wouldn't resort to the colorful adjectives used by "Common Sense" ("pinko communist Osama lovers"), I nevertheless take delight in them.
The deranged "Factoring in" is simply a severe mental case that should be straightjacketed and confined to a closed psychiatric ward for the public's protection. Perhaps sedation will further help.
Reading the nut's historical claims, we see a variant of the anti-Zionist standard issue revised narrative. Let's get the facts straight:
1. The farthest in time the Palestinian bloodline can go back is to the mid 630s AD, when *some* of the ancestors of *some* of the people presently known as "Palestinians" emerged from the Arabian peninsula and occupied the Land of Israel a.k.a. Palestine in the course of an aggressive imperialistic occupation drive. There's no connection between them and the Cana'anites or the Philistines. The archaeologists and scholars of other disciplines have long refuted both theories propagated by Arab propaganda (i.e. Philistines-->Palestinians and Cana'anites-->Palestinians), but the hardcore anti-Zionist camp couldn't care less as they never wanted to forfeit a propagandistic tool.
During the first millennium BCE *none* of the ancestors of the people now known as "Palestinians" were present in the Land of Israel.
2. Another common lie (and sometimes misconception) is the argument that only Sephardi Jews were ever historically indigenous to the Land of Israel, but no Ashkenazi Jews. This claim goes hand in hand with the misunderstanding of what Sephardi means. Sephardim are basically the decendents of the Jews who lived in Muslim Spain in the Middle Ages.
In reality Ashkenazis began immigrating to the land as early as the 13th century when 300 rabbis from France moved there; the other Jews living in the land were Middle Eastern Jews or Mizrahim in Hebrew. Over the 2nd millennium AD both Ashkenazi and Sephardi Jews, and later on also Yemenite and others who were distinct from both Sephardim and Ashkenazim immigrated to the land, joining their Mizrahi brethren.
In any case, all major historical Jewish communities, be they Ashkenazi, Sephardi, Yemenite or Mizrahi, have real roots in the Second Temple ere (515BCE - 70CE) Jewish population of the Land of Israel. So the nut's argument about how Europeans worldwide must get back to whence they came doesn't apply to the vast majority of Jews.
3. The Sephardi Jews, while adopting many Arab manners, including much of the mentality, clothing fashion and language, did NOT intermix with Arabs beyond living with them in some cities (Jerusalem, Hebron, Tiberias, Zafed, Jenin). The most commonly touted lie (and at times misconception) is that peace reigned between Arabs and Sephardim. In actuality all Jews were subject to daily humiliation, discrimination, sporadic bursts physical violence and religious persecution.
Apart from the Arab invasion of the 630s, there were a few other subsequent ones, such as the conquest by Egyptian Muhammad Ali in 1831 during which many Egyptians settled as far as Nablus. So much for the idiotic claim that Arabs "Never invaded you".
Massive Arab migration into Palestine was mostly documented but also reliably deduced from census figures starting from WWI (late Ottoman period) through the British Mandate period in the 1920s and 1930s until the 1940s. There is ample proof for the existence of this invasion (or "invasion"). The Arab migration was even bigger than the Jewish immigration. These facts, however, are among the ones that will never be recognized by the anti-Zionist liars.
When the deranged pro-Palestinian nut is done with his historical overview he spouts the absurd drivel that Israel essentially represents conquest by major Western powers. He's just going to the required length to avoid recognizing here that Israel is the materialization of the age-old Jewish yearning to renew political independence ion the Land of Israel.
For most of the past 100 years the Arab rage has basically been one fueled by envy, pride and greed -- an uncompromising determination to deprive Jews of a state on ANY of the territory. Only during the past few dozen years increasing numbers of Arabs have slowly but surely come to adopt a more realistic attitude about political Jewish presence in the Land of Israel.
Evidently people like the above deranged whack will avoid recognizing and calling the insanity embedded in the acts of Palestinian terrorists even if their lives are at stake.
The person who encouraged me above sounds like an observant Jew and unfortunately made some racist remarks which I don't endorse. But the buffoon Argue voids his own credibility when he takes his extreme demands and dresses them as representative of the Zionist mentality as a whole. The comparison of the Zionist with the US govt. is almost as small minded.
Israel was the product of diplomacy and Zionist development of the land even more than anti-Arab terror.
I'm not going to waste time refuting and rerefuting the communist nonsense being spewed by the deranged liar and his buffoonish comrade ad infinitum.
Lying lunatic fringe assholes, incorporated
Date Edited: 18 Jan 2005 11:08:53 PM
I have no idea what the "Sayan" is, neither do I know 'Awake and Aware'.
What's more, people like SF-IMC's "nessie" and "Factoring in" are the ones driven by Nazi-inspired animosity, which they direct at Zionist Jews. It's a classic act of rabid anti-Zionist projection -- they project their Nazi-like traits onto their most hated Zionist or Israel-defending foes. The Nazis are their Spiritual mentors.
Though I wouldn't resort to the colorful adjectives used by "Common Sense" ("pinko communist Osama lovers"), I nevertheless take delight in them.
The deranged "Factoring in" is simply a severe mental case that should be straightjacketed and confined to a closed psychiatric ward for the public's protection. Perhaps sedation will further help.
Reading the nut's historical claims, we see a variant of the anti-Zionist standard issue revised narrative. Let's get the facts straight:
1. The farthest in time the Palestinian bloodline can go back is to the mid 630s AD, when *some* of the ancestors of *some* of the people presently known as "Palestinians" emerged from the Arabian peninsula and occupied the Land of Israel a.k.a. Palestine in the course of an aggressive imperialistic occupation drive. There's no connection between them and the Cana'anites or the Philistines. The archaeologists and scholars of other disciplines have long refuted both theories propagated by Arab propaganda (i.e. Philistines-->Palestinians and Cana'anites-->Palestinians), but the hardcore anti-Zionist camp couldn't care less as they never wanted to forfeit a propagandistic tool.
During the first millennium BCE *none* of the ancestors of the people now known as "Palestinians" were present in the Land of Israel.
2. Another common lie (and sometimes misconception) is the argument that only Sephardi Jews were ever historically indigenous to the Land of Israel, but no Ashkenazi Jews. This claim goes hand in hand with the misunderstanding of what Sephardi means. Sephardim are basically the decendents of the Jews who lived in Muslim Spain in the Middle Ages.
In reality Ashkenazis began immigrating to the land as early as the 13th century when 300 rabbis from France moved there; the other Jews living in the land were Middle Eastern Jews or Mizrahim in Hebrew. Over the 2nd millennium AD both Ashkenazi and Sephardi Jews, and later on also Yemenite and others who were distinct from both Sephardim and Ashkenazim immigrated to the land, joining their Mizrahi brethren.
In any case, all major historical Jewish communities, be they Ashkenazi, Sephardi, Yemenite or Mizrahi, have real roots in the Second Temple ere (515BCE - 70CE) Jewish population of the Land of Israel. So the nut's argument about how Europeans worldwide must get back to whence they came doesn't apply to the vast majority of Jews.
3. The Sephardi Jews, while adopting many Arab manners, including much of the mentality, clothing fashion and language, did NOT intermix with Arabs beyond living with them in some cities (Jerusalem, Hebron, Tiberias, Zafed, Jenin). The most commonly touted lie (and at times misconception) is that peace reigned between Arabs and Sephardim. In actuality all Jews were subject to daily humiliation, discrimination, sporadic bursts physical violence and religious persecution.
Apart from the Arab invasion of the 630s, there were a few other subsequent ones, such as the conquest by Egyptian Muhammad Ali in 1831 during which many Egyptians settled as far as Nablus. So much for the idiotic claim that Arabs "Never invaded you".
Massive Arab migration into Palestine was mostly documented but also reliably deduced from census figures starting from WWI (late Ottoman period) through the British Mandate period in the 1920s and 1930s until the 1940s. There is ample proof for the existence of this invasion (or "invasion"). The Arab migration was even bigger than the Jewish immigration. These facts, however, are among the ones that will never be recognized by the anti-Zionist liars.
When the deranged pro-Palestinian nut is done with his historical overview he spouts the absurd drivel that Israel essentially represents conquest by major Western powers. He's just going to the required length to avoid recognizing here that Israel is the materialization of the age-old Jewish yearning to renew political independence ion the Land of Israel.
For most of the past 100 years the Arab rage has basically been one fueled by envy, pride and greed -- an uncompromising determination to deprive Jews of a state on ANY of the territory. Only during the past few dozen years increasing numbers of Arabs have slowly but surely come to adopt a more realistic attitude about political Jewish presence in the Land of Israel.
Evidently people like the above deranged whack will avoid recognizing and calling the insanity embedded in the acts of Palestinian terrorists even if their lives are at stake.
The person who encouraged me above sounds like an observant Jew and unfortunately made some racist remarks which I don't endorse. But the buffoon Argue voids his own credibility when he takes his extreme demands and dresses them as representative of the Zionist mentality as a whole. The comparison of the Zionist with the US govt. is almost as small minded.
Israel was the product of diplomacy and Zionist development of the land even more than anti-Arab terror.
I'm not going to waste time refuting and rerefuting the communist nonsense being spewed by the deranged liar and his buffoonish comrade ad infinitum.
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