Maybe history is beginning to pass you by. Abu Mazen has deployed 3000 police in part of the Gaza strip in a pilot trial to prevent Qassam launches and mortar shellings. If the experiment works OK, Palestinian forces will be deployed throughout all of Gaza for that same purpose prior to Israeli evacuation of the strip, with an option of deployment in Judea-Samaria too should the whole Gazan experiment succeed.
The reason I say this is, the PA's willingness to prevent attacks on Israelis may indicate the PA (and even nearly all secular Palestinians) has realized terror -- what you misleadingly brand "resistance" -- cannot gain the Palestinians any more than it has since the intifada broke out.
As for what you consider "Palestinian areas", know that Arabs owned only 3.3.% (!!!) of the territory in the Land of Israel on the eve of Israeli independence in 1948. Now who owned the rest? Well, by May 1948 8.6% was Jewish owned and the remainder was in the possession of the British Mandate rule that wrested it from the Ottoman rule that owned this land mass for 400 years. The likelihood that any genuinely Arab owned territory was ever usurped from local Arabs in Judea-Samaria and Gaza is almost zero, regardless of whether any Palestinians were ever uprooted from their land for Jewish settlement purposes. Interestingly, you yourself allow for the possibility that some areas have only recently become "Palestinian areas".
FYI, nearly every plot on which Jews immediately replaced Palestinians in the disputed territories was purchased from its Palestinian owners, regardless of the how genuinely those Palestinians had owned them. Cases in point are Siluwan, and E. Jerusalem which was ethnically cleansed of Jews during 1948 (a matter of fact). I have repeatedly heard and seen this on the news in Israel over the years.
I've told you what happened in E. Jerusalem in 1948. Guess what, something similar occurred elsewhere in the disputed territories: Hebron, the Etzion Bloc (4 villages south of Jerusalem), Kfar Darom in the Gaza strip and even Jenin. Actually the disputed territories as a whole were cleansed of Jews in 1948. Hebron had been rendered Jew-free already by 1936 through a process started by a massacre in 1929. All these facts are verifiable on the web and were duly documented.
The construction of the security barrier indeed necessitated some land confiscation that compromised some Palestinians' livelihoods, but the much greater injustice was Palestinian terroristic infiltration not only into Israel proper but also into Jewish communities bordering on the Green Line to commit terror. The security barrier's route doesn't meander that deep beyond the Green Line as some of you think.
The charge of genocide against the Palestinians is ludicrous as shown by all various posters in this thread and the "Exposing Dafka" one. All this bending of terms by the anti-Zionists so as to conjure whatever meaning they please into them is really tiresome and getting old.
Gaza's evacuation in itself, poised to be completed this summer, is already an Israeli territorial concession.
To John Thielking
Date Edited: 20 Jan 2005 10:31:47 AM
The reason I say this is, the PA's willingness to prevent attacks on Israelis may indicate the PA (and even nearly all secular Palestinians) has realized terror -- what you misleadingly brand "resistance" -- cannot gain the Palestinians any more than it has since the intifada broke out.
As for what you consider "Palestinian areas", know that Arabs owned only 3.3.% (!!!) of the territory in the Land of Israel on the eve of Israeli independence in 1948. Now who owned the rest? Well, by May 1948 8.6% was Jewish owned and the remainder was in the possession of the British Mandate rule that wrested it from the Ottoman rule that owned this land mass for 400 years. The likelihood that any genuinely Arab owned territory was ever usurped from local Arabs in Judea-Samaria and Gaza is almost zero, regardless of whether any Palestinians were ever uprooted from their land for Jewish settlement purposes. Interestingly, you yourself allow for the possibility that some areas have only recently become "Palestinian areas".
FYI, nearly every plot on which Jews immediately replaced Palestinians in the disputed territories was purchased from its Palestinian owners, regardless of the how genuinely those Palestinians had owned them. Cases in point are Siluwan, and E. Jerusalem which was ethnically cleansed of Jews during 1948 (a matter of fact). I have repeatedly heard and seen this on the news in Israel over the years.
I've told you what happened in E. Jerusalem in 1948. Guess what, something similar occurred elsewhere in the disputed territories: Hebron, the Etzion Bloc (4 villages south of Jerusalem), Kfar Darom in the Gaza strip and even Jenin. Actually the disputed territories as a whole were cleansed of Jews in 1948. Hebron had been rendered Jew-free already by 1936 through a process started by a massacre in 1929. All these facts are verifiable on the web and were duly documented.
The construction of the security barrier indeed necessitated some land confiscation that compromised some Palestinians' livelihoods, but the much greater injustice was Palestinian terroristic infiltration not only into Israel proper but also into Jewish communities bordering on the Green Line to commit terror. The security barrier's route doesn't meander that deep beyond the Green Line as some of you think.
The charge of genocide against the Palestinians is ludicrous as shown by all various posters in this thread and the "Exposing Dafka" one. All this bending of terms by the anti-Zionists so as to conjure whatever meaning they please into them is really tiresome and getting old.
Gaza's evacuation in itself, poised to be completed this summer, is already an Israeli territorial concession.
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