"More Nazis died in World War II than Americans. Did that mean the Germans were the victims and the Americans the perpetrators?"

You seem to be using 'Nazis' and 'Germans' interchangeably here. If you could get over your reflexive hatred of WWII Germans for one minute, you might see that all sides of that conflict qualify as BOTH perpetrators and victims. WWII was NOT about the Holocaust, okay? Get over yourself. It was just one of the larger upheavals in a multigenerational contest among superpowers to see who would claim the big enchilada, the entire planet, as their empire. This contest began with WWI and is still raging. All the big players were much more equivalent than your goo-goo baby idea of history allows. The only reason you know every overwrought detail of how evil the Germans were is because they lost, so they didn't get to write the history.

Did the evils of the Nazi party excuse the horror of Dresden? No. The Germans had already lost the war at that point; Dresden was just pure viciousness. I suppose YOU think Dresden was justified, but that's because this is one of that constellation of subjects in which you will never think freely and without malice.

And then there's what the U.S. did to Japan: 67 Dresdens, including the two that were achieved by dropping single devices. Funny, isn't it, how the schoolbooks never discuss the Holocaust of Japanese civilians... As for Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan had already lost the war; again, we didn't really need to do that. The canned apologia for it doesn't hold up either, because nor did we need to invade them. We had already secured a total blockade around their islands and were destroying their last military resources; we could have just closed them off and starved them into submission. The only really plausible explanation for the atomic bombings is that they were experiments, the most monstrous in world history. They make Mengele's work look almost innocent by comparison. This fits perfectly not only with the realities of that historical moment (vs the mythologies) but also with the monstrous experimental culture that prevailed within the Pentagon, Manhattan Project, and AEC, starting then and continuing afterward for at least two decades. This is massively documented in the book "The Plutonium Files."

You see, we didn't take Hitler down because he was "the Bad Guy." No, no, no, goo-goo baby. We did that because he was a RIVAL. We did that so we could rip the Global Domination ball out of his hands and run it all the way back to HIS end-zone.

The kind of total bastards who play this global domination game don't care about the Holocaust, any more than they care about the equally vile U.S. genocide of Native Americans in the 1800s. This is a personality type that revels in absolutely amoral depths of corruption, i.e. "pragmatism," and is able to rationalize anything to itself. If you imagine Israel has set Jews free from such people, you are a perfect fucking fool. Sharon is such people; George Bush is such people; the entire class that dominates international power transactions is such people. Their psychology is a black cancer on the earth, and they're proving it now by rebuilding the menace of fascist global empire right before your eyes. Everyone knows this but the zionist Jews and the shithead Americans, who see it benefiting them, just like the Germans did...

Join ranks with these megalomaniacs, and you relinquish your soul. The whole zionist movement is just a big pawn for them, another mass of people they manipulate by whipping up their bigotry because bigotry is custom-made for that. It's how you get them to fight wars at all. Your zio-God Leo Strauss said nothing less. He was one of them.

"Israel has done everything possible to avoid hurting innocent civilians."

Iman al-Hams, Jeff Hurndall, Rachel Corrie, Sabra & Shatila, Deir Yassin, al Qibya, a hundred zionist terror bombings, etc., etc., tell me that this is a lie. Again, you're painting a simplistic binary picture when the real world is much more complicated and ambiguous.

If you had said "Israel has done everything possible to avoid hurting innocent civilians WHILE PURSUING THE HIGHER PRIORITY OF TAKING EVERY SQUARE INCH OF BRITISH-MANDATED PALESTINE," that would have been a hell of a lot closer to the truth. Doing "everything possible" to avoid hurting them would include things like rolling back the territorial map to the 1947 partition plan, or never gobbling that land up in the first place. In addition to being the legally honorable thing to do, I suspect an olive branch this gargantuan would pacify them tremendously. Hell, even returning their territories to the Green Line would probably work. It's not that it's "impossible" to do such things, it's just that it's anathema to the thing you relentlessly refuse to acknowledge, i.e. the pig-headed religio-bigot agenda that is zionism's true heart. "We want what we want and this is only about us and we will never acknowledge injustice in this area unless it's injustice to US that we can use to manipulate YOU." You're so far into this Sherwood Forest of lies, you don't even fucking know what daylight looks like anymore.

"Palestinians are taught that if they are killed by the IDF while fighting, they will be instantly transported to paradise and be rewarded with 72 willing virgins."

Yeah I've seen this dehumanizing propaganda before. It's very telling that you accept it uncritically. If you did not despise these people so viscerally, you might recognize that no one living a good life in an intact society would find this the least bit compelling. It may be the reality of how suicide bombers are recruited, but what tips the scales to make it actually work is the past six decades of ever-expanding humiliation under the jackboots of a blatant imperial project, combined with the prospect of subjugation and cultural annihilation in the future. Their other option is to wage war down to the last man by throwing their lives away in nihilistic acts of defiance. I believe you've bragged that Israeli Jews would do the same thing, and I'm sure they would. Which further illuminates your failure to recognize what it's really about. In your moral universe, Jews are to be identified with and empathized with, and Palestinians simply aren't. This makes it impossible for you to engage with them constructively. For one thing, they're NOT stupid, they're NOT animals, and they're always going to pick up on it and react in kind. I'm sure the same charges can be leveled against them, but the childish dialogue of entrenched resentments never ever resolves anything. You have ALL the power, which you've used mercilessly to take and take and take from them; this saddles you with most of the burden of making peace by giving some of it back. This is far and away the most substantive thing that could happen, and it's all on you.

When I see you making some such REAL concession instead of using every new situation to slam another shank up their ass and break it off so you can scream "terrorists! wuAAAAAuh!" every time they consequently go nuts, I'll believe you're sincere about "finding solutions." Until then, I have no real reason to accept this. That was addressed to you, CT.

"The fact that you grossly inflated these numbers show you are willing to use falsified information to make your point rather than arrive at the ultimate truth about the situation."

Uh-huh. The 'ultimate truth' of those numbers still being that your side is incriminated most, which you still absolutely refuse to acknowledge, so what does that show?