Mr. Bullshit: "Likewise with CT's total categorical refusal to acknowledge the validity of Palestinian grievances and anger."

You took the liberty to reach such a sweeping conclusion without evidence. You know, by evidence I mean what it means outside of the world of Indymedia bullshitters.
I do empathize for example with the relatives of every Palestinian casualty of IDF and border police murder, or abuse. You don't know fuck about most of my sentiments, yet you act here as some sort of dimestore psychologist determining precisely what I feel. You're an idiot.

You quote me saying:
Palestinian society, probably the most racist, indoctrinated in hatred and among the most violent worldwide.

This has been true for as decade or so. This is a cold hard fact.


Mr. Bullshit: "I know the true dimensions of CT's hatred, which is the only meaningful way to describe an abscence [sic] of empathy this total."

You don't know beans, idiot. You're just a wannabe psychologist, that's all.


CT: Your comical quip at me is in lieu of a credible way to refute my previous arguments.

Mr. Bullshit: "What "arguments?" You didn't present any "arguments," you just puked forth a blanket dismissal in your tired familiar "I know everything" manner. " "You see, when you swagger around in your closed little world and regally declare your unqualified opinions, blah blah blah blah"

Whatever.


When you proceed to quote me on Iran and radical Islam, you yourself are pulling one heck of a manipulation pretending I'm refuting my own arguments and contradicting myself where's there's no contradiction so you can appear to have won the debate. But this is to be expected from someone who has divorced himself from reality, due either to communist ideology or extreme anti-Zionism, or both.


Mr. Bullshit: "A narcissist like you..."

uh ugh, the dimestore psychologist has spoken again.


Mr. Bullshit: "It started out as the centerpiece of our design to stymie the Arab reunification movement"

"Our design"? What are you, British? There was no American scheme to do any such thing back them, hateful lying lamer.


Mr. Bullshit: "Reagan's terror war against Libya..."

Some may be fascinated at how the hateful workings of your mind have managed to turn it 180 degrees around, but a bold faced lie remains a lie no matter how much you actually believe the crock you just spouted.


Mr. Bullshit: "There's a very simple reason for your refusal to acknowledge that any of this has contributed to Islamism: you're a manipulative lying asshole piece of shit. And you're just unshakeably convinced, in this symptomatic zionist way, that no one could possibly be smart enough to figure that out. Blah blah ..."

Again, Mr. Bullshit Hatemonger, you've jumped to conclusions courtesy of your morbid anti-Israel impulses. Had you asked me, I would have acknowledged some of these events had a certain influence on the emergence of Islamism. But you would seem to posit that Islamism's anti-Western, global subjugating agenda are a justified reaction, or at least excusable, and this is where our thoughts part ways. Of course, you put the brunt of the blame of the US-led West and Israel in particular, as if Israel shares some blame in the emergence of that phenomenon. That's simply Israel-hating baloney, at best. At worst, it's yet another manifestation of the idiotic "blame the victim" mentality that plagues the radical Left in Western countries, including in Israel.

You do have merit where you correct me, saying: "First of all, this a false distinction. 'Radical Islam' and the Iranian theocracy are inseparable" .
I partly accept this observation. The theocratic Iranian regime indeed is a radical Islamic one. But it's a Shi'ite one which doesn't share much of al-Qaida's agenda.

While Khumaini was alive and the Cold War was still being fought, the Iran's theocratic regime's Western apologists had considerable merit claiming its extremism was the necessary response to Western policy toward that country in the preceding decades. Not so since the early 1990s, Mr. Bullshit.


Mr. Bullshit: "I don't think they're crazy, or that they want to take over the world, or that they "hate us for our freedoms" (puh-leez). Above all, I think they just want the West to get the fuck out of their faces and leave them alone."

At least you're not trying now to pass your personal opinion off as fact. But you're nevertheless wrong. And get this, lamer: all the limits to freedom in the US and Israel notwithstanding, they're still a helluva better package deal than what the Tabilan offered and the Islamist vision al-Qaida is propagating.

My people -- and I assume by that you meant the Israelis -- have some valid reasons to be a bit hysterical given what millions of hatred driven, willfully ignorant, denial opting, Islamism apologizing people like you are capable of and would be causing Israel if it weren't for diplomatic protection the US extends to Israel. But dangerous the Israelis are not. You're simply somewhat echoing the absurd line subscribed top by most Europeans who said Israel is the greatest menace to world piece and stability. Anyhow, the truth remains -- that's bullshit.
I assume Israel was "dangerous" when it destroyed Iraq's nuclear facility in mid 1981 and saved itself and much of the planet from nuclear blackmail. I assume Israel will be just as "dangerous" if it winds up doing the same to Iran. But then again, maybe you'll make up some excuses for Saddam during the early 1980s along the lines of, "well, I don't think he was dangerous and would have tried to blackmail the West and Israel, or even Iran, with his nukes." Perhaps you have some similar excuses in the ready for the Iranian regime if they end up with offensive nuclear capabilities.

Stating the reasons of Islamism's growth and the argument over how much of it is the West's or even Israel's fault miss the point, which is that presently that movement poses the greatest threat to world piece and stability.


Mr. Bullshit: "Iran, for example, has settled down considerably in the years since the Islamic revolution, even despite the West's best efforts to keep them suffering and crazy mad."

You start a sentence correctly asserting a historical fact only to throw in a falsehood. The West hasn't done anything to cause Iran any hardship over more than a decade now. Sure, Iranian funds and assets are still frozen in US banks if I recall correctly, but if anything, the US has relaxed some of its economic sanctions against Iran, not the reverse. To say nothing of the other Western states who have been much more open to Iran than the US.

You and others posting to this IMC (and others of course) represent a malaise in Western life which is potentially very dangerous, one of whose facets is the attitude of appeasement of Islamism, rogue Muslim regimes threatening Israel and the West at just about any cost based on understanding them and their motives. Some of you underestimate or play down the Islamist threat and lulled us into complacency prior to 9-11. The West might be unable to triumph over Islamism because of your attitude, so you and your ilk are a grave danger to everyone who rejects the Islamic way of life.