(reposted for completeness)


JA: "PALESTINIAN-WANNABEES??? DON'T YOU THINK THAT'S A LITTLE *RRRACIST*???"

"The[y] run around with Keffiyeh's on their heads at events though they are not Arab or Palestinian."

Well, I used to celebrate Shabbat (dinner) with a former Jewish roommate in our lovely dining room every Friday evening she was home. Did that make me Jewish even though I and our other roommate of hers shared in her religious culinary ritual?

"I guess I'm a racist for noticing this?"

YOU MEAN FOR CALLING PALESTINIAN HUMAN RIGHTS SUPPORTERS "PALESTINIAN-WANNABEES", THE NEAR EQUIVALENT OF "SAND-NIGGER LOVERS"?

NO, THAT DOESN'T SOUND RRRACIST.


"And if they had a clue what murder and killing has been done by the people who they are emulating,"

Is every Jew who wears a yarmulke a rabid racist redneck 'Jim Crow Jew' religious fundamentalist settler? --Or even a homicidal racist Zionist?


"they would pull those towels off their heads in disgust."

***"TOWELS"!!!???***

AS IN ***"TOWELHEADS"**** !!!???

THAT DOESN'T SOUND RRRACIST EITHER.


"(Look at the 1972 Munich Olympics for starters)"

And that's the equivalent of *all* Palestinians!!??

BECKY!! -- YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT **RACISM** IS!! -- DO YOU!?


" Here's another quote from Nelson Mandela: "I cannot conceive of Israel withdrawing if Arab states do not recognize Israel, within secure borders." "

Well, I can conceive that you probably -- given your manifest anti-Palestinian racism -- extracted this out of some context -- if Mandela even said that. I'M CHALLENGING YOU TO CITE THE SOURCE OR PROVIDE A URL!!


"Here's what the President of the ZOA, Morton A. Klein..."

Ummm-hmmmph..., "the PRESIDENT of the ZOA [**ZIONIST** ORGANIZATION OF AMERICA], Morton A. Klein..."

" ...said about Bishop TuTu's remarks comparing Israel with Apartheid South Africa: "Tutu's prejudice against Jews, hostility towards Zionism, and indifference to Jewish victims of Arab terrorism are not the qualities one normally expects to find in a man of peace." "

WHAT A SURPRISE!!: THAT THE HEAD OF THE **ZIONIST** ORGANIZATION OF AMERICA WOULD SAY SUCH A THING ABOUT AN INTERNATIONALLY PROMINENT, COMPELLING CRITIC OF ZIONISM -- ISRAELI APARTHEID.

SO, THEN, TUTU *IS* A RAVING ANTI-SEMITE, HUH!? -- JUST AS I SUPPOSED YOU THOUGHT BEFORE.

I WONDER WHAT KLEIN THINKS OF THAT GREAT "MAN OF PEACE" ARIEL SHARON!?


BY THE WAY, CORNEL WEST JUST GAVE A SPEECH THIS WEEKEND TO AN OVERFLOW AUDITORIUM IN OAKLAND. HE CRITICIZED ISRAEL'S COLONIAL RACIST PRACTICES TOO TO A ROUND OF APPLAUSE. WHAT DO YOU SAY NOW ABOUT HIM TOO?


BECKY: "Barbara Lubin not only called my house, but she gave me her phone number. If you doubt me, ask her."

Becky, I didn't doubt you...; I just said that I was disappointed to even hear that someone of Barbara's intelligence and stature [and someone so busy with a demanding schedule] would even waste time calling someone like *you*!! *I* woudn't!!

If I had Barbara's position and demanding scedule, you would have never heard from me -- ever!! (Well, I might have challenged you to a public debate just to publicly make a fool of you, since you claim to be a public activist and organization official.) I said it was like *Madame Curie* calling *Betty Rubble*!!


"I invited her to come on my tv show and debate Lee Kaplan. She declined."

I DON'T BLAME HER!! YOU KNOW NOT EVERYONE HAS THE WILLINGNESS TO GO DEBATE SOME LOUDMOUTH (AND POSSIBLY DANGEROUS) LOON! -- ESPCIALLY WHEN THE MICROPHONE IS NOT UNDER NEUTRAL OR FAIR CONTROL.

BUT, *I'LL* BE ON YOUR SHOW. JUST *ASK* ME!! I *LOVE* STICKIN' IT TO RACIST NUTCASES!! THE DUMMER THE BETTER!!

(IT MAKES MY VERBAL JABS THAT MUCH FUNNIER. SHIT, I MAKE FUN 0' NON-CRITICAL THINKIFIER ALL THE TIME UP AT INDYBAY!!)

I MEAN, LOOK WHAT I DID WITH *YOU*!! -- AND MOST OF MY JOKES PROBABLY WENT RIGHT OVER YOUR HEAD!! NOW, AUDIENCES *REALLY* FIND THAT FUNNY!! YOU'RE A NATURAL *FOIL*!

LET'S JUST RECREATE MY 'INTERVIEW' ON YOUR RADIO SHOW, OKAY? THE AUDIENCE WOULD *LOVE* IT!

HAVE YOU CONSIDERED INVITING JEFFREY BLANKFORT? HE'D BE A GREAT ALTERNATIVE TO BARBARA!


"Re: Amy Goodman. I really like her and think she's a courageous reporter. But she is 180 degrees wrong about Israel."

Well, Amy comes to the Bay Area often enough. Why don't you *tell* her at her next Q&A!?

"It may be a personal grudge with her (her Grandfather was an orthodox rabbi)."

Yeah, I guess a grandfather-granddaugter complex, huh?

"Whatever the cause, she is hell-bent on defaming Israel every chance she gets. She also does NOT report on Palestinian terror in any way commmensurate with her reporting on Israel."

Well, you should ask her *why*, the next time she's giving a Bay Area lecture.


"For the record I have never advocated killing all the Arabs. I have never called Arab people "ragheads" or "sand niggers"."

*** JUST "TOWELHEADS", RIGHT!? ***


"For the record, I don't support transfer either, unless its voluntary."

JUST IMPERIALISM, COLONIALISM, MASSACRES, MASS ETHNIC CLEANSING, THE IMPOSITION OF A FOREIGN NATION-STATE, RELIGIO-RACIALLY LEGALLY DEFINED STATES, RESTRICTIVE REAL-ESTATE COVENANCES (i.e., restrictions against other people owning/leasing land on the basis of race or ethnicity; something Jews fought against and claimed was *immoral* in the U.S. when Jews couldn't buy/lease certain property because they were Jewish), ETC -- THAT'S ALL, HUH?


"But then its easy for me to not feel anti-Arab bigotry."

***OBVIOUSLY***!!!

"I don't live in Israel."

WHY NOT? MAYBE YOU CAN SAVE THE JEWS FROM BEING SO SLOW -- EVEN "GLACIAL", AS YOU PUT IT.

CLEARLY, AS YOU SAID, YOU'RE NOT HAVING MUCH OF AN EFFECT ON YOUR MANY "DEAR" JEWISH FRIENDS IN SANTA CRUZ!

"I'm not scared everytime I get on a bus. And I never had a family member or friend blown to bits by a Palestinian suicide bomber."

HAVE YOU EVER HAD YOUR PARENTS' HOME TAKEN OVER BY A JEWISH FAMILY -- "FLEEING RACIAL PERSECUTION" -- WHEN YOU WERE A CHILD (AS I'M SURE THAT CHRISTIAN GERMAN FAMILIES MUST HAVE TAKEN OVER JEWISH HOMES IN THE NAZI ERA) -- AND THROWN OUT ON THE STREETS WITH YOUR FURNITURE?

HAS *YOUR* HOME BEEN TAKEN OVER BY A JEWISH FAMILY -- "FLEEING RACIAL PERSECUTION" -- AND YOU AND YOUR FURNITURE THROWN OUT ON THE STREETS?

HAVE YOU EVER HAD YOUR HOME BLOWN UP BECAUSE YOUR SON/NEPHEW THREW *ROCKS* AT THE POLICE OR SOLDIERS? -- OR FOR ANYTHING ELSE YOUR SON/NEPHEW HAS DONE? (THAT'S *REAL* "DEMOCRACY" IN ACTION, HUH?)

HAVE FULL-BODY-ARMORED SOLDIERS/POLICE EVER SHOT AND KILLED YOUR CHILD AS THE SUMMARY SENTENCE FOR *THROWING ROCKS* -- EVEN AT A TANK!? OR FOR THE CRIME OF PLAYING IN THEIR OWN YARD!?

MAYBE THAT WOULD HELP REDUCE THE CRIME RATE IN AMERICA!: IF YOUR SON/DAUGHTER COMMITS A MISDEMEANOR, FELONY, OR CAPITAL OFFENSE, THE POLICE/MILITARY HAS PERMISSION TO GO BLOW UP YOUR HOME!!


"So its easy for me to not harbor racist feelings toward Arab people."

AGAIN!!: THAT'S ***OBVIOUS***!!!


"Its much more of a challenge for the Jews in Israel."

SO, YOU WOULD *UNDERSTAND* IT, IF THE *JEWS* IN ISRAEL SUCCUMBED TO RACISM (ANTI-PALESTINIAN ANTI-SEMITISM).

BUT, IT WOULD BE DESPICABLE, HYPOTHETICALLY, FOR ANY PALESTINIANS -- WHOSE NATIVE LAND HAS BEEN TAKEN AWAY; FAMILY MEMBERS KILLED BY THE MILITARY; HOMES DESTROY; ORCHARDS/FARMS DESTROYED OR MADE INACCESSABLE; WATER CONFISCATED OR DIVERTED -- TO SUCCUMB TO RACISM (ANTI-JEWISH ANTI-SEMITISM)?

THAT, IN ITSELF, OR YOUR BELIEFS ABOUT THAT, IS *NOT* RACIST TO YOU!?


"A solution to the conflict would involve a peaceful resolution between the Arab and the Israeli people."

HOW ABOUT A SECULAR, TRULY DEMOCRATIC STATE FOR ALL PEOPLE REGARDLESS OF RACE, RELIGION, OR ETHNICITY. BUT *THAT'S* TOO MUCH FOR *YOU* AND ZIONIST JEWS (HOWEVER RARE THEY MIGHT BE IN SANTA CRUZ), HUH?

THAT WOULD BE LIKE, IN 1859, "END SLAVERY!? WE CAN'T JUST *END* SLAVERY!! DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE BLACKS WOULD DO TO US!!? THEY MIGHT DO TO *US* WHAT WE DID TO **THEM**!!"


"I personally feel its the Arab leaders who are the biggest obstacle to peace."

WHAT A *SURPRISSSE*!!


"And all your bally-hooing about dismantling the Jewish State of Israel (rather than supporting it) is only going to extend the conflict."

YEAH, WE SHOULDN'T "BALLY-HOO" ABOUT ENDING, IDEOLOGICALLY AND LEGALLY, ETHNICALLY-DEFINED/-EXCLUSIVE/-CHAUVINISTIC STATES -- LIKE THE NAZI STATE.

I'VE ALWAYS MYSELF BEEN FOND OF HAVING THE U.S. LEGALLY SELF-DECLARED AS "A CHRISTIAN MALE STATE", WHERE CHRISTIAN MEN ARE LEGALLY PRIVILEGED OVER WOMEN, AND WOMEN ARE NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO OWN OR EVEN LEASE NEARLY ALL OF THE PROPERTY, OR SO MUCH AS PUT A ROOM ADDITION ONTO THEIR HOMES!

FURTHERMORE, IT WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY ILLEGAL FOR ANY POLITICIAN OR OFFICIAL OF THE STATE TO CALL FOR SEXUAL EQUALITY!

*THAT* SHOULD KEEP WOMEN LIKE *YOU* IN THEIR RIGHTFUL PLACES: *DOWN*!!


"I didn't say there WAS no Palestine. I said there IS no Palestine. It no longer exists."

LIKE HITLER WITH CZECHOSLOVAKIA OR POLAND, HUH?


"And it NEVER existed as a sovereign country."

WELL, ISRAEL AS A NATION-STATE NEVER EXISTED BEFORE 1948.

NATIVE AMERICANS NEVER HAD "SOVEREIGN COUNTRIES". DID THAT JUSTIFY WIPING THEM OFF THEIR LANDS AND THE EUROPEAN GENOCIDE AGAINST THEM?

AFRICAN SLAVES NEVER HAD "SOVEREIGN COUNTRIES". DID THAT JUSTIFY SWEEPING THEM INTO CHATTEL SLAVERY?

EUROPEAN JEWS NEVER HAD A "SOVEREIGN COUNTRY" IN EUROPE. DID THAT JUSTIFY PROGROMS, WIPING THEM OFF THE LAND, MASS DISPOSSESSING THEM, AND GENOCIDE AGAINST THEM?

LOOK UP THE DEFINITION OF A MANDATE -- AND SEE WHO IT WAS TO BE HELD IN TRUST FOR: THE *INDIGENOUS* PEOPLE -- NOT OTHER EUROPEAN COLONIZERS.

ANY FUNDAMENTALLY AND MORALLY, WHAT DOES IT MATTER? DOES ONE HAVE A RIGHT TO ETHNICALY CLEANSE AND MASSACRE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE BECAUSE THEIR NATIVE LAND IS SUPPOSEDLY NOT A "SOVEREIGN COUNTRY"?

That's like Eurpeans telling Native Americans that European colonizers can take Native land because "it's not fenced in" or "you don't have a country"!


"The Jewish population in Palestine in 1882, right at the beginning of the Zionistic movement, was 25,000. The Palestinian population we see today, had not yet begun to migrate to that area."

THE INDIGENOUS (MOSTLY NON-EUROPEAN) JEWISH POPULATION IN PALESTINE AT THE TURN OF THE 20TH CENTURY WAS BETWEEN 3-6%. Palestine was, for all practical purposes, an Arab country. And even the cultural practices of the indigenous Jews there were Arab. In fact, they were often known as "Arab Jews".

THE INDIGENOUS NON-EUROPEAN JEWISH POPULATION OF PALESTINE WAS NOT EVEN CONSULTED ABOUT WHETHER THEY WANTED A ZIONIST STATE.

EUROPEAN JEWS -- WHO NO MORE CARED WHETHER PALESTINIAN JEWS WANTED A ZIONIST STATE THAN THEY CARED WETHER PALESTINIAN ARABS DID -- COUDLN'T HAVE CARED LESS ABOUT THE NON-EUROPEAN PALESTINIAN JEWS AND, INDEED, RACISTLY LOOKED DOWN ON THEM.


"Most Arab migration to Palestine dovetailed Zionist migration and the resulting farms and businesses that provided jobs. The early Zionists BOUGHT land from willing sellers. They did not "drive the Arabs from the land" (they may have had to evict some squatters after the land was purchased, but this hardly constitutes a human rights violation."

BEEN READING JOAN PETER'S DISCREDITED BOOK "FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL", HUH? I CALL HER BOOK "THE JEWISH MEIN KAMPF".


FIVE THINGS THAT EVERY COLONIAL RACISTS -- ESPECIALLY EUROPEAN SETTLER-COLONIALISTS -- ALWAYS DID -- *EVERYWHERE* THEY WENT (IN AFRICA, IN THE AMERICAS, IN ASIA, AND IN PALESTINE), LIKE CLOCKWORK:

(1) THEY GO SOMEWHERE TO THE NON-EUROPEAN WORLD, WITH THE BIBLE & THE GUN, OFTEN CLAIMING PERSECUTION, AND THEN, ALSO CLAIMING "GOD'S WILL", IN TURN, HYPOCRITICALLY KILL, PERSECUTE, AND OPPRESS OTHERS.

(2) DENY THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE'S PERSONHOOD OR PEOPLEHOOD (THEY REALLY AREN'T PEOPLE OR A PEOPLE);

(3) DENY THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE'S CULTURE (THEY DON'T HAVE ONE);

(4) DENY THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE'S HISTORY (DENY/ERASE IT);

(5) DENY/DIMINISH THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE'S IMMEDIATE TIE TO THE LAND (THEY HAVE NONE; IN FACT, IT'S ALWAYS A VAST EMPTY "LAND WITHOUT A PEOPLE").


"not a person" writes: "When the Palestinians wanted to expeditiously, not after 2,000 years, return to their land after they were driven off due to unbearable conditions, like anti-Palestinian pogroms (ethnic cleansing) and war, created by their occupiers (the zionists), Israel said _NO_."

BECKY: "Not true. The '48 war was driven by the Arab countries who rose up to drive the Jews into the sea (i.e. their aim was to genocide the Jews)."

YOU SEE, BECKY, THIS IS WHERE IT'S FUNNN -- ONCE AGAIN -- TO REVEAL YOUR UTTER STYOOOPIDITY!!:

THE UN JEWISH PARTITION IN PALESTINE WAS ***NEVER*** ATTACKED BY ***ANY*** ARAB COUNTRY! -- IN FACT, IT WAS EXPLICITLY *NOT* ATTACKED (sometimes by secret agreement)!!

ISRAEL'S 1948 WAR WAS, AS BEN GURION ET AL HAD PLANNED, WAS REALLY ISRAEL'S IMMEDIATE "WAR OF EXPANSION".

IN FACT, BEN GURION -- AND OTHER ZIONISTS -- ALWAYS SAID THAT THEY HAD PLANNED ON MILITARILY EXPANDING BEYOND THE UN JEWISH PARTITION.

THE SURROUNDING ARAB COUNTRIES (EACH FOR THEIR OWN REASONS) MOVED IN TO TRY TO TAKE/HOLD LAND OUTSIDE THE JEWISH PARTITION, RIGHTFULLY FEELING THAT ISRAEL WOULD TAKE MORE LAND BY FORCE.

(THE PARTITION ITSELF UNFAIR, BECAUSE IT GAVE THE EUROPEAN JEWISH INFLUX, MOSTLY ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION BY BRITISH STANDARDS, THAT HAD SWELLED TO ABOUT 30% OF THE POPULATION, ABOUT 56% OF THE LAND.

SO STILL *70%* OF PALESTINE'S POPULATION, MOSTLY PALESTINIAN ARABS, WAS ALLOWED JUST LESS THAN 45% OF THE LAND!

NAME ANY OTHER COUNTRY/PEOPLE IN THE WORLD THAT WOULD HAVE ACCEPTED THIS.)

ISRAEL EXPANDED FROM ABOUT 30% OF PALESTINE TO ABOUT 78% OF PALESTINE.

ISRAEL HAS BEEN IN ABOUT 5 WARS -- AND ALL BUT ONE WAS A PRETEXTUALLY STARTED BY *ISRAEL* TO TAKE ADDITIONAL LAND BY FORCE.

REMEMBER WHEN YOU SAID THAT THE AYE-RABS STARTED ALL OF ISRAEL'S WARS?

BECKY, YOU'RE JUST SUCH A ***FFOOOLLL***!!

I'VE JUST BEEN *****AMUSING***** MYSELF AT YOUR EXPENSE, BUT I'M TIRED OF PLAYING WITH YOU ANYMORE!!


As for Israel's "refusal" to let them return. How do you explain Israel's setting up a special board of their immigration dept. just to process applications for those who wanted to return? Do you discount that that board 'returned' 170,000 Palestinian Arabs inside of Israel where they immediately became Israeli citizens?

YEAH, AND THE NAZIS SET UP SPECIAL BOARDS TO "PROCESS" THE JEWS AND TOLD THEM THAT THEY COULD ONE DAY RETURN TOO.

WHERE IS THE PALESTINIAN RIGHT OF RETURN NOW?

WE ALL KNOW THAT THERE IS A RIGHT OF "RETURN" FOR "JEWS" WHO HAVE NEVER EVEN TOUCHED TOE TO PALESTINE (OR "ISRAEL").

ISRAELIS HYPORCRITICALLY AND ANTI-SEMITICALLY WORRY ABOUT "TOO MANY ARABS" AROUND, JUST AS EUROPEAN (OR AMERICAN) CHRISTIANS/GENTILES USED TO ANTI-SEMTICALLY WORRY ABOUT "TOO MANY JEWS" AROUND!!

"Also, how do you claim 700,000 or 750,000 Arabs became refugees in 1948 when the UN only counted 420,000? Where did those extra 300,000 Palestinian Arabs come from? (name your source)"

DIDN'T YOU SEE ME TURN NON-CRITICAL THINKIFIER INTO MY BEEYATCH...? I'VE ALREADY DEALT WITH THIS ISSUE.

YOU GOT THE ANSWER NOW?

IT'S JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF YOUR UTTER SHEER ***STYOOOPIDITY***!!

OKAY, I'M TIRED OF BEING AMUSED BY YOU NOW.

I'VE GOT ALL THE INFORMATION, NOW, I NEED FROM YOU.