If ANYONE has a hard time understanding why students are tired of UCSC politics and administrators, just look to this joint meeting. A whole bunch of suits. Here's how the meeting will go.... City Council warmly welcomes UCSC suits. UCSC suits warmly thanks City Coucil for opportunity to share all the wram fuzzies UCSC gives the City. Mike Rotkin gets to tell how the meeting will go and why the meeting is important. Introduces Denton. Denton warmly thanks Rotkin for his kind words and introduction. A discussion follows outlining how important the nexus of town and gown is. Then come the rest of the suits...Jean Marie Scott to talk about housing students, projected numbers, projected builds, exciting new initiatives, (ie development in town and maybe around long marine lab). transportation suits to talk about mitigation measures for all the cars destroying the neighborhoods surrounding campus. Discussion of exciting new trans initiatives like...more riding sharing! discussion about alternatve routes into ucsc so new neighborhoods can have their quality of life destroyed! Next comes the economic vitality discussion, ie. now that you have suffered from the negative impact of the university this is what you get! Dance troupes! Poetry readings! Technology nexus (but with foreign workers!) next comes the topic of additional bay area opportunities..is there where we hear about biotech at ucsc and local biotech firms? Then there's the good neighbor initiative...which might be better served if the Univ could stop the 100 person drunken block parties that happen every weekend during the school year. speaking of which is the alcohol awareness report! see sentence before to see how well this program is working! CUIP internship program, a report on how students work for free to help local services decimated by funding cutbacks. Frank Zwart speaks on how most of the back part of the university will be filled in with housing more classrooms, more buildings, and ultimately...what...20,000 or 30000 students? And don't forget all the staff and faculty. Maybe instead of calling it city on the hill we can call UCSC megalopolis on what used to be a forest.