>It sounds like you're going
>to the wrong bathroom anyway.
Actually, it sounds like we're going to the wrong business establishment.
If it's going to take this much effort just to try to get the mgmt/owner to recognize the offensiveness of the decorations, then I'll just go somewhere else. As will my friends. Will we put the place out of business? No. But we will take hundreds (and over time, thousands) of dollars of business away from SB and give it to someone else. Just the other day, I was headed out with a bunch (8-10) of friends; when someone suggested SB, I told them all about this issue and everyone agreed that we should go somewhere else. (There's a couple hundred bucks, right there.)
As for CK and others:
I'm not interested in wasting my time butting heads with small-minded idiots who, rather than listen to my points, just blather on about how I'm one of those "insecure man-hater types" who doesn't understand art history and/or the use and effect of propaganda, and who suggest that I would rather see "an image of a fluffy kitten hugging a lesbian." Go Fuck Yourself.
For the millionth time:
These images aren't about appreciation of the female form... at least, not in the way that most pin-ups are (even the other works by Zoe Mozert). This particular series of pin-ups consistently portrays its subjects as "pretty but inept" in that they are clumsy, cowardly, easily abused, and vulnerable to attack (in a way that makes light of their attackers).
Considering the (presumed) era that they were created (WWII), another related interpretation of the message sent in these images goes thusly:
"Imagine women in the military. They'd just screw everything up. Try to scrub the deck? She'd fall over and flail. In the field, the enemy would sneak up behind her and she'd never see them until they had their hand on her ass. Make her the "lookout" and she wouldn't see the enemy until they were lifting up her skirt. And as for combat, she'd run in terror at the sight of a little mouse, much less a firefight on the frontlines."
Look at Mozert's other works: www.thepinupfiles.com/mozert.html
If you're paying any attention whatsoever, you'll notice that all of her other works treat her subject's in a completely different manner.
For myself, I like Mozert's work. Her style is undeniably impressive and, except for this series, her representation of her subjects is fun and respectful.
Seabright Brewery? No Thanks. Let's Go Somewhere Else.
Date Edited: 16 Aug 2005 05:17:41 AM
>to the wrong bathroom anyway.
Actually, it sounds like we're going to the wrong business establishment.
If it's going to take this much effort just to try to get the mgmt/owner to recognize the offensiveness of the decorations, then I'll just go somewhere else. As will my friends. Will we put the place out of business? No. But we will take hundreds (and over time, thousands) of dollars of business away from SB and give it to someone else. Just the other day, I was headed out with a bunch (8-10) of friends; when someone suggested SB, I told them all about this issue and everyone agreed that we should go somewhere else. (There's a couple hundred bucks, right there.)
As for CK and others:
I'm not interested in wasting my time butting heads with small-minded idiots who, rather than listen to my points, just blather on about how I'm one of those "insecure man-hater types" who doesn't understand art history and/or the use and effect of propaganda, and who suggest that I would rather see "an image of a fluffy kitten hugging a lesbian." Go Fuck Yourself.
For the millionth time:
These images aren't about appreciation of the female form... at least, not in the way that most pin-ups are (even the other works by Zoe Mozert). This particular series of pin-ups consistently portrays its subjects as "pretty but inept" in that they are clumsy, cowardly, easily abused, and vulnerable to attack (in a way that makes light of their attackers).
Considering the (presumed) era that they were created (WWII), another related interpretation of the message sent in these images goes thusly:
"Imagine women in the military. They'd just screw everything up. Try to scrub the deck? She'd fall over and flail. In the field, the enemy would sneak up behind her and she'd never see them until they had their hand on her ass. Make her the "lookout" and she wouldn't see the enemy until they were lifting up her skirt. And as for combat, she'd run in terror at the sight of a little mouse, much less a firefight on the frontlines."
Look at Mozert's other works:
www.thepinupfiles.com/mozert.html
If you're paying any attention whatsoever, you'll notice that all of her other works treat her subject's in a completely different manner.
For myself, I like Mozert's work. Her style is undeniably impressive and, except for this series, her representation of her subjects is fun and respectful.
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