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Why are men concerned about this issue?

It's the women's bathroom. Why should we care?

Because it's about censorship. That's why. It doesn't matter if we never see the art. I believe this attempt to censor the art in the women's bathroom is motivated by a narrow-minded political action group. I don't care if it's the Right to Lifers, the Victimist Feminists, the Evangelical Christians, or the KKK. I don't think any of these or any other politically motivated groups have a right to tell a business what should be displayed on the bathroom walls of either bathroom. If you want to call me sexist, racist, looney, pagan, stupid or misogynist -- go ahead. I know who I am. You can't define me. You can't offend me. Because I *choose* to not be offended by your name calling. It bounces off. I'm not a victim.

If you don't like what is on the walls you can spend your money anywhere you want. No one is forcing you to come to the Brewery. Tell all your friends. Maybe some of them believe the same thing as you do. They also have free choice. Maybe some of them don't agree with you. Fine. You don't like the art? Stay away! Others will come in support of our (my) views.

You launched a blindsided attack on some good friends of mine. I don't think it was justified. I think your interpretation of the art is politically motivated from a narrow-minded perspective. (see above reference to what I might consider "narrow-minded groups"). I don't think you represent mainstream feminism. But that doesn't matter either. It's just my OPINION. I have a right to disagree with your politics. I don't agree with your interpretation of the art. That doesn't mean I'm anti-Feminist. You just THINK it does. Fine. You have a right to your opinion.

We both have a right to our different opinions. No one has a right to inflict their opinion on the other person. You're not automatically right just because you are a member of an "oppressed" group; that doesn't give you special status in defining what art means or what other people have a right to say or display. The right wing has been sucessful in defining democrats as "liberals" -- they have almost made it into a dirty word. Similarly, your attempt to label this art as "degrading ... powerful statements about sexual violence against women" is a total misrepresentation of what this art really is TO ME and to the woman who posted it and I hate to be the one to break it to you -- the vast majority of the population. I get that you are offended. That doesn't mean you get to choose the art. Maybe you should open your own business. Then you might get an understanding that YOU CAN'T PLEASE EVERYBODY!

Some people have called you names. You have used defamatory language too. It looks pretty even to me, but then I'm prejudiced. Look at the last couple of paragraphs of Hireath's "article". She doesn't exactly tread lightly. She clearly attacks the owner of the Brewery and these "hateful illustrations". You accuse him of promoting "sexual violence against women." I've known the man for over 20 years. Obviously you don't know a thing about him. You heckle him when he encourages and empowers his employees to express their own artistic style with his business space and his money. What do you really know?

So I should just let someone smear a great friend of mine in a "public forum" and stand back and watch? Not gonna happen. I have no desire to be a victim or of letting anyone blindside my friends. I would expect you to do the same for your friends.

You have a right to any kind of feminist politics that you wish to explore. You don't have a right to tell someone how to run their business. You have a right to take your money anywhere you like. You don't have a right to decide what is good art and what is bad art.

Don't expect to be able to attack someone without their friends coming to their support. You misjudged this "political action project" from the very start. I think you assumed that bad people had to be behind this display of so called "degrading art" -- you were very wrong about that. I know these people. I am proud to call them my friends.

Tinker Thinker
 


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