In response to Maria and Godkillaa:
Your posts define the perimeters of your ignorance.
We United States Native American Indians do not appreciate "la raza"s attempt to rewrite the history of this nation, erasing the existance of our Native American tribal heritage and attempting to replace it with some fictious "aztlan" nonsense.
We US Native American Indians respect whatever pride you have in your Mexican (indio) heritage and in your hispanic (european) heritage. I would not ASSUME that you are not what you are, since I know nothing about you, and that, of course, would be abject ignorance.
We USA Native Ameircan Indians do NOT support uncontolled illegal immigration and we do NOT support open borders, we do NOT support any organization which attempts to undermine this nation (OUR nation) through anarchy, and we never will.
It takes a person of small mind to respond to another person with "Fuck you", as if that has some relevance in any exchange of information, Godkillaa. Pretty pathetic.
That either of you ASSUME you know more about my ethnic heritage than I do is laughable. Yes, I am full blood United States Native American Indian, and yes, I am proud of it.
This land, which is the United States was the land of my ancestors prior to the arrival of ALL Europeans, and that includes your Spanish-European ancestors.
That you assume no US citizen would have food to eat without illegal immigrants is a joke. Every job in this country was done before this recent 20 year influx of millions of illegal aliens, and every job in this nation would be done if it were stopped and all illegal aliens deported.
LA RAZA is a racist organization, that is undeniable, take care when you call others "racist" when you identify with racists yourself.
You are sorely lacking in basic US history education if you are unaware of the fact that it was the hispanic Spanish/Europeans who invaded our southwestern US Native Indian tribal homelands, who enslaved, raped, infected with disease, tortured and murdered our ancestors. Should we US Native American Indians hold every Spanish speaking person accountable for what your ancestors did to ours hundreds of years ago?
It was the Mexican indios who trespassed on our tribal homelands in the US southwest, to steal, rape and kill. In fact the Apache did a better job at keeping Mexicans in their own lands than the present day border patrol does. Lets get the Apache to protect our borders, I guarantee you there will be fewer illegal aliens getting in.
I know more about the history of our once more than 400 US American Native Indian tribes than either of you will ever know, first of all because I have been taught by my tribe all of my life, second because it is my lifes work, and third because neither of you ARE US NA Indian and neither of you care enough about us to learn anything about us.
To Godkillaa, if you don't think law is important to maintain civility you are truely uneducated. All societies have laws, from the most primitive to the most advanced.
If you think you would fare better in a land with no laws I challenge you to find one, and go live there, see how long you last.
I know exactly what it is to be discriminated against, my family has lived with discrimination all of our lives.
I had an uncle who had his tongue cut out for talking to a white girl when he was 16 years old, do I blame ALL white people? NO, I am not a racist.
I had a cousin who was raped and murdered by two hispanics, do i blame all hispanic people? NO, I am not a racist.
My husband was attacked, pistol whipped and robbed by a Black man once, do I blame all Black people? NO, I am not a racist.
Maria and Godkillaa, you both need to take a good hard look at where you are coming from, learn something about this nation you live in, whether you were born here, or came here from the homeland of your ancestors.
And lastly... to you Maria, you write to me :
"...stop pretending and have respect for those that are native american..."
and I can say the same to you, STOP PRETENDING TO BE USA NATIVE AMERICAN Maria, and HAVE RESPECT FOR THOSE THAT ARE NATIVE AMERICAN...you have shown no respect for me, and I AM ONE.
TO Godkillaa and Maria -FYI
Date Edited: 31 Oct 2005 10:16:46 AM
Your posts define the perimeters of your ignorance.
We United States Native American Indians do not appreciate "la raza"s attempt to rewrite the history of this nation, erasing the existance of our Native American tribal heritage and attempting to replace it with some fictious "aztlan" nonsense.
We US Native American Indians respect whatever pride you have in your Mexican (indio) heritage and in your hispanic (european) heritage. I would not ASSUME that you are not what you are, since I know nothing about you, and that, of course, would be abject ignorance.
We USA Native Ameircan Indians do NOT support uncontolled illegal immigration and we do NOT support open borders, we do NOT support any organization which attempts to undermine this nation (OUR nation) through anarchy, and we never will.
It takes a person of small mind to respond to another person with "Fuck you", as if that has some relevance in any exchange of information, Godkillaa. Pretty pathetic.
That either of you ASSUME you know more about my ethnic heritage than I do is laughable. Yes, I am full blood United States Native American Indian, and yes, I am proud of it.
This land, which is the United States was the land of my ancestors prior to the arrival of ALL Europeans, and that includes your Spanish-European ancestors.
That you assume no US citizen would have food to eat without illegal immigrants is a joke. Every job in this country was done before this recent 20 year influx of millions of illegal aliens, and every job in this nation would be done if it were stopped and all illegal aliens deported.
LA RAZA is a racist organization, that is undeniable, take care when you call others "racist" when you identify with racists yourself.
You are sorely lacking in basic US history education if you are unaware of the fact that it was the hispanic Spanish/Europeans who invaded our southwestern US Native Indian tribal homelands, who enslaved, raped, infected with disease, tortured and murdered our ancestors. Should we US Native American Indians hold every Spanish speaking person accountable for what your ancestors did to ours hundreds of years ago?
It was the Mexican indios who trespassed on our tribal homelands in the US southwest, to steal, rape and kill. In fact the Apache did a better job at keeping Mexicans in their own lands than the present day border patrol does. Lets get the Apache to protect our borders, I guarantee you there will be fewer illegal aliens getting in.
I know more about the history of our once more than 400 US American Native Indian tribes than either of you will ever know, first of all because I have been taught by my tribe all of my life, second because it is my lifes work, and third because neither of you ARE US NA Indian and neither of you care enough about us to learn anything about us.
To Godkillaa, if you don't think law is important to maintain civility you are truely uneducated. All societies have laws, from the most primitive to the most advanced.
If you think you would fare better in a land with no laws I challenge you to find one, and go live there, see how long you last.
I know exactly what it is to be discriminated against, my family has lived with discrimination all of our lives.
I had an uncle who had his tongue cut out for talking to a white girl when he was 16 years old, do I blame ALL white people? NO, I am not a racist.
I had a cousin who was raped and murdered by two hispanics, do i blame all hispanic people? NO, I am not a racist.
My husband was attacked, pistol whipped and robbed by a Black man once, do I blame all Black people? NO, I am not a racist.
Maria and Godkillaa, you both need to take a good hard look at where you are coming from, learn something about this nation you live in, whether you were born here, or came here from the homeland of your ancestors.
And lastly... to you Maria, you write to me :
"...stop pretending and have respect for those that are native american..."
and I can say the same to you, STOP PRETENDING TO BE USA NATIVE AMERICAN Maria, and HAVE RESPECT FOR THOSE THAT ARE NATIVE AMERICAN...you have shown no respect for me, and I AM ONE.
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