"I saw a beautiful blue sky just this weekend. Not a contrail in sight. Not a cloud in sight, either, except for some of the small puffy ones, and just a few of those. So, you're wrong there. Sorry."
***don't be sorry. With all due respect, you wouldn't realize a Chemtrail if it were right in front of your face.
"And maybe one of the reasons why people don't pay attention to your claims is because they don't believe them. Simple."
***I hope that makes you feel better, but the fact is that many many residents of Santa Cruz are very much aware of the Chemtrail Operation. You just took the bait. I was speaking to the few who are still in denial. Like you for instance! Simple huh? yeah sure! oh...this isn't real. Simple! I can go back to protesting things 15,000 miles away now and be fast asleep to what is happening in my own sky! Simple!
"There has been pseudo-science throughout history. You ask what will happen when we one day look back and say "Boy, they weren't nutty paranoids after all". I counter that lots of false beliefs have come and gone, and this one will, too. "
***Sorry. But just because you are not aware of the obvious, doesn't make it go away! You are free to convince yourself otherwise though. Of course.
"Remember when it was "scientifically" proven that African slaves were inferior to European colonists? The fact is, you can manipulate information any way you want and get the answer you're looking for."
***Whatever floats your boat dude. There is no information being manipulated at all. Just lots of very clear evidence which you obviously have not taken the time to read. Don't get me wrong, you are not alone in choosing denial over reality.
"You are obviously looking for a way to be frightened, and you found tons of "science" on the internet that is not reputable. You have taken an observation ("There are streaks in the sky") and some unrelated information ("there are patents for weather-changing operations") and made a conclusion ("those streaks are to change our weather"). Others don't agree, and don't follow the lack of logic."
***ok dude. Then to keep yourself comfy, you can believe the "others" who don't agree. I am sorry to tell you, but weather or not you "agree" has nothing to do with it! Reality is not decided by consensus!!! What you say is "obvious" is actually a totally faulty observation. No one is looking for a way to be frightened. As a matter of fact the Chemtrails do not "frighten" me at all. I would take a long hard look in the mirror here. You are obviously in fear of the possiblity that the Chemtrails are real. You are in denial of your own fear. You can get through your fear and your denial by opening your eyes and having a little courage to face the truth. No one has taken the course you speak of. You obviously have not taken the time to see the tons of documentation which makes it very obvious that geo-engineering/weather modification programs are going on all over the country and all over the planet. This will be common knowlege in a few years. Right now it is not. It naturally brings up fear when you hear that the govt is spraying chemicals in the sky. Denial of the information and of the bringer of the information is a normal psychological reaction to something like this. No one has ever said they are trying to kill us off. But to simplistically write off the overwhelming documentation and evidence of the geo-engineering projects going on is truly disingenious.
"We believe that stopping an unjust and illegal war that is killing hundreds of people every important."
***Duh! Obviously stopping an unjust and illegal war is important! You don't have to be ignorant to what is happening in your own skies to be against the war you know. Many people are against "the war" and also aware of the Spray operation.
" We have heard your statements, but our priorities are with the evils and pollution and whatnot that we know exist. Can't you just accept that and move on? "
We? Speak for yourself! You are trying to lump yourself into a group in your own mind to make yourself feel good. Your priorities are with the evils and pollution that you know exist? That's very nice. No one is stopping you from focusing on your priorities. But just because you do not yet know about what is going on in your skies every day, doesn't mean it does not exist. It just means you are not aware of it yet.
"I know, you believe that posting on activist websites and having your own website is somehow "frightening" them into changing what they do. It seems like a leap, though, that secret, X-Files type people who want to change the world climate wouldn't really be scared away by some folks in nutty ol' Santa Cruz."
Well, you have a point here. They certainly are not "frightened" by us into changing what they do, as evidenced by the fact that they have not stopped spraying here. This is a Nato wide project, and a couple of big mouths in Santa Cruz are not going to stop a multi billion dollar operation that has been going on since 1998. They are hiding it more though, especially since Santa Cruz was featured on Coast to Coast Am, and all the recent activism that has been done here. I don't expect you to believe that though, and frankly it does not matter if you "believe" any of this or not. You WILL find out some day or another that, unfortunately, this is very real. I wish it were not for all of our sakes, but I would rather be aware of something that was happening rather than be in denial.
"But your M.O. is clear- you'll say I'm a sheep or "one of them" ..."
***Wrong again. I am not saying you are a sheep or one of them. I am saying you are not yet aware of what is going on in the skies all over America and right here in Santa Cruz. That's all.
"and will take all coincidences or changes and make up elaborate stories to make your argument stronger and discard any information that makes it weaker and you'll go on, until you get bored with this and find another conspiracy to "uncover" and obsess about."
***I hope this makes you feel better, but you are way way off track. Again. there are no stories being made up, and there is no information that can stand that denies the Aerosol Spray Operation. There is no information that makes the Chemtrail issue weaker. There is disinformation that is either consciously or unconsciously passed on, but it is a joke if you look at the facts.
"That's fine. But stop bugging the rest of us to convert, please. I hate when religious people do it, and I hate when you do it."
***Did you even read the posts here? Did you even go to the site and read the evidence? Obviously not, because you are not responding to the clear evidence that has been given. You are speaking from your own fears. It is not about "converting", it is simply about waking up.
It is normal to want to stay in our comfort zone.
Date Edited: 13 May 2004 08:09:20 PM
***don't be sorry. With all due respect, you wouldn't realize a Chemtrail if it were right in front of your face.
"And maybe one of the reasons why people don't pay attention to your claims is because they don't believe them. Simple."
***I hope that makes you feel better, but the fact is that many many residents of Santa Cruz are very much aware of the Chemtrail Operation. You just took the bait. I was speaking to the few who are still in denial. Like you for instance! Simple huh? yeah sure! oh...this isn't real. Simple! I can go back to protesting things 15,000 miles away now and be fast asleep to what is happening in my own sky! Simple!
"There has been pseudo-science throughout history. You ask what will happen when we one day look back and say "Boy, they weren't nutty paranoids after all". I counter that lots of false beliefs have come and gone, and this one will, too. "
***Sorry. But just because you are not aware of the obvious, doesn't make it go away! You are free to convince yourself otherwise though. Of course.
"Remember when it was "scientifically" proven that African slaves were inferior to European colonists? The fact is, you can manipulate information any way you want and get the answer you're looking for."
***Whatever floats your boat dude. There is no information being manipulated at all. Just lots of very clear evidence which you obviously have not taken the time to read. Don't get me wrong, you are not alone in choosing denial over reality.
"You are obviously looking for a way to be frightened, and you found tons of "science" on the internet that is not reputable. You have taken an observation ("There are streaks in the sky") and some unrelated information ("there are patents for weather-changing operations") and made a conclusion ("those streaks are to change our weather"). Others don't agree, and don't follow the lack of logic."
***ok dude. Then to keep yourself comfy, you can believe the "others" who don't agree. I am sorry to tell you, but weather or not you "agree" has nothing to do with it! Reality is not decided by consensus!!! What you say is "obvious" is actually a totally faulty observation. No one is looking for a way to be frightened. As a matter of fact the Chemtrails do not "frighten" me at all. I would take a long hard look in the mirror here. You are obviously in fear of the possiblity that the Chemtrails are real. You are in denial of your own fear. You can get through your fear and your denial by opening your eyes and having a little courage to face the truth. No one has taken the course you speak of. You obviously have not taken the time to see the tons of documentation which makes it very obvious that geo-engineering/weather modification programs are going on all over the country and all over the planet. This will be common knowlege in a few years. Right now it is not. It naturally brings up fear when you hear that the govt is spraying chemicals in the sky. Denial of the information and of the bringer of the information is a normal psychological reaction to something like this. No one has ever said they are trying to kill us off. But to simplistically write off the overwhelming documentation and evidence of the geo-engineering projects going on is truly disingenious.
"We believe that stopping an unjust and illegal war that is killing hundreds of people every important."
***Duh! Obviously stopping an unjust and illegal war is important! You don't have to be ignorant to what is happening in your own skies to be against the war you know. Many people are against "the war" and also aware of the Spray operation.
" We have heard your statements, but our priorities are with the evils and pollution and whatnot that we know exist. Can't you just accept that and move on? "
We? Speak for yourself! You are trying to lump yourself into a group in your own mind to make yourself feel good. Your priorities are with the evils and pollution that you know exist? That's very nice. No one is stopping you from focusing on your priorities. But just because you do not yet know about what is going on in your skies every day, doesn't mean it does not exist. It just means you are not aware of it yet.
"I know, you believe that posting on activist websites and having your own website is somehow "frightening" them into changing what they do. It seems like a leap, though, that secret, X-Files type people who want to change the world climate wouldn't really be scared away by some folks in nutty ol' Santa Cruz."
Well, you have a point here. They certainly are not "frightened" by us into changing what they do, as evidenced by the fact that they have not stopped spraying here. This is a Nato wide project, and a couple of big mouths in Santa Cruz are not going to stop a multi billion dollar operation that has been going on since 1998. They are hiding it more though, especially since Santa Cruz was featured on Coast to Coast Am, and all the recent activism that has been done here. I don't expect you to believe that though, and frankly it does not matter if you "believe" any of this or not. You WILL find out some day or another that, unfortunately, this is very real. I wish it were not for all of our sakes, but I would rather be aware of something that was happening rather than be in denial.
"But your M.O. is clear- you'll say I'm a sheep or "one of them" ..."
***Wrong again. I am not saying you are a sheep or one of them. I am saying you are not yet aware of what is going on in the skies all over America and right here in Santa Cruz. That's all.
"and will take all coincidences or changes and make up elaborate stories to make your argument stronger and discard any information that makes it weaker and you'll go on, until you get bored with this and find another conspiracy to "uncover" and obsess about."
***I hope this makes you feel better, but you are way way off track. Again. there are no stories being made up, and there is no information that can stand that denies the Aerosol Spray Operation. There is no information that makes the Chemtrail issue weaker. There is disinformation that is either consciously or unconsciously passed on, but it is a joke if you look at the facts.
"That's fine. But stop bugging the rest of us to convert, please. I hate when religious people do it, and I hate when you do it."
***Did you even read the posts here? Did you even go to the site and read the evidence? Obviously not, because you are not responding to the clear evidence that has been given. You are speaking from your own fears. It is not about "converting", it is simply about waking up.
Cheers!
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