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Chemtrail Overview

The systematic, illegal spraying of Aerosolized Chemical Particulate aka: Chemtrails is continuing on a DAILY BASIS over the skies of Santa Cruz. Because of large numbers of Santa Cruz residents becomming aware of this outrageous assault on our health and rights, the spray operation is continuing to become more and more covert. They are hiding themselves from you. They do NOT want you to know that yes it is TRUE that CHEMICALS ARE BEING SPRAYED IN YOUR SKY DAILY.

They KNOW that once people find out the truth there will be massive outrage and lawsuits. It will be no less than a national emergency.

Do you remember what a clear blue sky looks like? Think back! We NEVER get CRYSTAL BLUE CLEAR SKIES in Santa Cruz anymore. The reason is that the saturation level of Chemical Particulates in our air is HUGE. Just cause you cant see it doesn't mean you are not breathing it or that there are not HUGE negative health implications for breathing this kind of crap day in and day out.
CHEMTRAIL OVERVIEW
by Chemtrails911.com

Since approximately 1998, thousands of people started noticing airplanes spraying X’s, parallel lines, and grid patterns across our skies. These trails initially look like contrails but actually aren’t. According to the U.S. Air Force, contrails are condensation trails and happen when hot engine exhaust momentarily condenses ice crystals into pencil-thin vapor trails that quickly vanish like the wave behind a boat, very much like your breath when talking outside on a cold winter day. Chemtrails, on the other hand, linger for hours and will spread out to form large areas of “cloud? cover.

There are several theories as to why these operations may be occurring. However, most of the documentation available points to geo-engineering and space weaponry as the reasons that these spray operations are occurring. A concept that keeps popping up in major governmental studies is the idea of spraying aluminum oxide particles into the atmosphere to create a sunscreen.

This concept is exactly what respected scientist Edward Teller, the father of the H-Bomb, called for in 1997 while at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratories. In a government-sponsored report called Global Warming and Ice Ages, he suggested the scattering of 1 million tons of materials into the atmosphere in order to reflect 1% of incoming sunlight. He states that it would be cheaper to slow global warming through "stratospheric deployment of oxide particulates" than to actually slow down greenhouse gases connected with fossil-fired energy production.

The sunscreen concept is also called for in a major congressional study titled Policy Implications of Greenhouse Warming, which was sponsored by the National Academy of Sciences, National Academy of Engineering, and the Institute of Medicine. This huge study was reported in 1992 and is the textbook on greenhouse gasses, global warming, policy decisions and mitigations. In this study, they discuss spraying the atmosphere with “stratospheric dust or soot? and to “simulate clouds? in order to mitigate global warming. The study also suggested dumping iron into the ocean to stimulate plankton that could potentially eat carbon dioxide. As reported by CNN, Moss Landing Marine Laboratories’ recently dumped iron in the Pacific Ocean to do just that. You can see that these are not just theories, but they are theories in actual use. But dumping iron in our oceans backfired when a large amount of fish died. So what are the unreported consequences of mass spraying the atmosphere?

Ken Caldera, also from Lawrence Livermore National Laboratories, is a concerned scientist who said that this type of spray operation could have grave environmental consequences and could cause serious health concerns. But it seems they cared nothing about Mr. Caldera’s concerns.

Our children are now even being taught this aerial obscuration concept in our schools. In the level one science book, "Essential Interactions" by Centre Point Learning, Inc., a photo of a jet is titled "Particle Air" and has the caption "Jet engines running on richer fuel would add particles to the atmosphere to create a sunscreen". This is in the section titled "Solutions for Global Warming". In the same section they also show a picture of a helicopter dumping iron into the ocean as a way to mitigate global warming, as we mentioned earlier. Again, CNN actually reported the iron theory being carried out. These are not just “theories?.

Not only do the governmental studies support this sunscreen theory but there are also actual patents that have been issued for devices to carry these operations out. One important patent is the 1994 Welsbach patent issued to the Hughes Aircraft Co. It is for “atmospheric spraying with aluminum oxide? to reduce global warming by “seeding? and reflecting 1% of incoming sunrays. It so happens that aluminum consistently turns up in chemtrail related lab test results.

Another patent worth mentioning is the 1975 US Navy patent, which is for a “contrail generation apparatus for producing powder contrails?. In the summary section it clearly states “the term 'contrail' was adopted for convenience in identifying the visible powder trail". It appears they are still using the word “contrail? for convenience. The people carrying out these types of operations will never use the word “chemtrails?. They use terms such as aerial obscuration, persistent contrails, or sky soot.

But Dennis Kucinich did use the word “chemtrails? in the Space Preservation Act of 2001 in which he tried to ban chemtrails and other space-based weapons. He wrote the bill, also called H.R. 2977, while he was the head of the U.S. Arms Oversight Committee. The bill calls for a ban on space-based weapons and a ban on the types of operations that we’re seeing happen now. In section 7 of the bill, “chemtrails? is considered an exotic weapon.

Space-based weaponry is another likely reason that these operations are occurring. As is stated in the Air Force study Owning the Weather in 2025, it is a major advantage to modify the weather and cause rain or drought for the enemy. They also find that the spraying of certain chemicals in the skies assist to jam radar and tele-communications systems. They go on to say that these activities could have tremendous potential in times of military aggression and are pleased that these tactics could also have enormous psychological potential, which would be just as beneficial. The study even goes on to say that “one major advantage of using simulated weather to achieve a desired effect is that unlike other approaches, it makes what are otherwise the results of deliberate actions appear to be the consequences of natural weather phenomena?.

These operations are also advantageous to the HAARP, which stands for ‘High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program’. HAARP is a highly funded research project in Alaska focusing on altering and manipulating the atmosphere for weather and military dominance.

The US has a long history of spraying chemicals on innocent people in this country. The Freedom of Information Act has allowed us to access information about these experiments, including the spraying of biological agents over San Francisco in 1950 to see who came in sick at local hospitals. This is just one example of many. Just recently in 2001, Captain Joyce Reily stood against the military’s open air germ testing. There are many more examples in the history of aerial spray operations that you can read about on the website Chemtrails911.com.

In 1997 and again in 2000, U.S. Title 50, Section 32 was actually revised to allow for exceptions in conducting experiments on unwitting citizens.

Unfortunately, the goals of this activity aren’t known with absolute certainty because when high level officials are asked about these spray operations, they answer that what we are seeing is just “normal?. When concerned pilots and Air Force personnel ask their superiors questions relating to these operations, their concerns are met with replies like “this information is on a need-to-know basis? or they are given special misinformation to make them think they are doing their patriotic duty. Concerned civil servants are also being told that speaking out on this issue will violate national security and that they will be held accountable.

These operations cause us to have great concerns. We do not like being part of a secret spray operation without our consent. We are very worried about the health implications of spraying chemicals that are on the OSHA hazardous list. And the fine talcum powder-sized particles they call for to be sprayed are very harmful to our health according to the American Medical Association.

If this is truly being done to mitigate global warming, as research indicates, then don’t be fooled into thinking that this is for our own good. This is not for our own good! We are breathing this in and unexplained illnesses are occurring. Yes, global warming is an issue, but we should not jeopardize our health and freedom to avoid having to regulate fossil-fired energy use and production or exploring alternative fuel technologies. A ‘sunscreen’ solution only masks the real problem and isn’t a solution at all. The massive health problems and risks involved largely outweigh any possible benefits. These spray operations need to be stopped immediately.
 
 


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Re: Chemtrail Overview

Did you see the chemtrail cloud this morning????? IT WAS SO THICK THAT I COULDN'T SEE DOWN THE BLOCK!!!!! IT WAS ALL OVER THE PLACE! WHEN ARE WE GOING TO STOP THE GOVERNMENT FROM SPRAYING US TO MAKE US INFERTILE????
 

Stop the California Blue Sky Lie!

Late Saturday night, about 2am, MASSIVE trail across the sky. The full moon illuminated it. It is true, they have stopped spraying during the day for the most part.

WE HAVE THEM ON THE RUN!!!


How does it feel like to be lied to by your government about something so vital, so important as the quality of the air you breath every day?

Maybe you don't really give a shit! Maybe you have other things on your heart and mind, like paying your bills, and just living your life!

I can understand that.

So, let's change the context a bit:

How would you feel if a govt agent was spraying chemicals from an aerosol can over your freinds, family and loved ones, and they didn't even notice it was happening.

Would you care then??????????!

Would you tell them?

Or would you just remain silent?
 

Re: Chemtrail Overview

get out your tin foil hats!
 

Early Morning Trails

Think the spaying has mysteriously stopped in the past week? Think again!

It appears they are now spraying from about 2AM to 7 AM. If you are awake at 6-7am you will most probably see them. Now it's going to be harder than ever to let people know what is going on. How do you explain the difference between a chem colored sky and what a TRUE BLUE SKY looks like?

Most people cannot even remember what clear blue skies look like!

They have successfully conditioned us folks!

Welcome to the experiment!

Your permission is not needed.

How does it feel to be a lab rat for the New World Order?
 

Still doubting? READ THIS NOW!!!

This is a brand new, 4 year research project on the Aerosol Chemical Spray Operations going on in the skies of America.

If you are looking for a well researched, fully documented and well referenced report that ABSOLUTELY PROVES BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT that not only are "Chemtrails" real, but that there are multiple illegal covert military experiments going on in our skies.

READ IT HERE NOW!!!

(This report was recently given to Sam Farr in front of 200 witnesses)


www.wnho.net/methodic_demise.htm
 

Re: Chemtrail Overview

Yes, get out your tinfoil hats. Here we go again with the "chemtrail" nonsense. The are no chemtrails - There have never been any chemtrails.

The "fully documented report" to which Blue Sky Girl refers was written by "Dr." Michael Castle. He is a born-again fundamentalist Christian whose primary job is selling natural food products and meaningless "certifications" through his World Natural Health Organization (www.wnho.net). I put his title "Dr." in quotes because, as far as I can tell, his only doctorate is an honorary one from one of the religious schools & institutes affiliated with the World Council of Postsecondary and Religious Education (WCPRE).

WCPRE is a totally sham organization run by Castle's WNHO to give credence to a bunch of degree mills that issue fake degrees at the drop of a hat. WCPRE & its colleges are not recognized by the Department of Education or any real accrediting organization.

If you want to see REAL science about chemtrails, go to:

_www.nmsr.org/chemtrails.htm
goodsky.homestead.com/files/index.html
 

Not in Our Skies

The Chemtrails have in fact NEVER stopped. Do NOT be fooled or confused by naysayers who either asleep or have an agenda.

Here's some interesting sites. More documentation of the "Non Event". Yeah sure. Fools like Harry should join the Ostrich Clan! Nice try Harry.

If you want some REAL information, not DISinformation, check out a couple of the HUNDREDS of sites that are set up by people who want to expose not COVER UP (like harry) the Govt's illegal, ongoing, geoengineering/Weather Modification programs.



www.chemtrailpatrol.com/cp_chemtrails_menu.htm

www.lightwatcher.com/chemtrails/hos.html
 

Weather Liars

Oh my gosh...check this link out!!!!!

_www.willthomas.net/Articles/Pleasedisregard.htm
 

I'll take my Chemtrails Italian style please!

ITALIANS CONCERNED OVER CHEMTRAILS COME TO NORTH AMERICA LOOKING FOR ANSWERS AND ALLIES

Exclusive Report by William Thomas


Concerned countrymen have dispatched two Italian filmmakers to document chemtrails on the other side of the Atlantic. After flying in from Rome earlier this week, Vincent Gambino and Duccio Benvenuti interviewed the author – and were interviewed in turn at his island hideout.

Vincent and Duccio showed video recently filmed from their 3,500 year old village in northern Italy. Located 500 meters above the sparkling Mediterranean, the descendants of ancient Rome look out daily on air traffic departing and landing at a major airport to the south. While high-flying airliners sometimes scrawl brief contrails across flawless skies, the predominantly low-altitude aircraft leave no contrails at all.

But sparse contrails have not spared the town’s airspace from becoming completely obscured by jet trails in recent years.

“We wake up some days and the whole sky is filled with trails, and there is no good explanation of this,? Vincent said.

Excellent digital footage presented by the pair showed extensive criss-crossing plumes coalescing and spreading out over Italian skies – the unmistakable signature of chemtrails. Pointing to the extensive sky grids, Vincent said simply, “Impossible.?


“FAMOUS WHITE PLANES?
Vincent related how a protest last year among airport workers at Fiumicino received prominent media coverage in Italy, after a USAF tanker Vincent referred to as another “famous white plane? landed and taxied to a cordoned off section of Rome’s big international airport. “No one was allowed close for two or three days,? Vincent recalls. Airport workers were angry at the secrecy surrounding the white American air force plane, he said, and the fact that they “couldn’t do their jobs.?

Working closely with Nexus Italy, Vincent has been investigating chemtrails since becoming aware of them fouling Italy’s skies two years ago. Hoping to spur awareness and action across a country intensely interested in information overlooked or censored by the mainstream press, the two filmmakers are producing a one-hour documentary on chemtrails for Italian audiences.


A TALE OF TWO TOWNS

During their visit to Canada, the Italians were especially interested in the experience of Espanola. Repeatedly overflown by photo-identified U.S. Air Forcer tankers spraying broad white plumes that made people sick over 50 square-miles in the spring and summer of 1991, this small community west of Sudbury, Ontario was the first to petition a national government to stop chemtrail spraying. (An activist involved in the early Espanola protest said in a recent interview that while spraying has dropped off there, "I'm convinced people here have died as a result of this spraying, including a close friend.")

Vincent added that a village located in a valley north of Venice has undergone an aerial onslaught similar to Espanola’s. In Fletre In Val Belluna, “people started complaining? after many took ill following heavy chemtrailing there.

On November 18, 2001 Espanola residents presented a petition to the Canadian Parliament in Ottawa, demanding an explanation and cessation of aerial spraying. The Canadian Department of National Defense, which does not operate tanker planes, eventually replied, “It’s not us.?

Somewhat enigmatically, DND added, “The Canadian Forces have confirmed that they are not aware of any visiting foreign military aircraft having requested diplomatic clearance to conduct aerial spraying or to drop chaff in the vicinity of Espanola."

With 15% of NORAD’s Cheyenne Mountain air defense headquarters staffed by Canadian military officers, U.S. military overflights are daily occurrences over Canada. Military exercises – including chemtrails, according to the Victoria Airport Authority - are arranged directly between Canadian and U.S. commanders; not by civilian “diplomatic? requests.

In Italy, a “Parliamentary interrogation? - or investigation – into the purpose and composition of chemtrails is now being sought. The Italians hope to raise the issue of chemtrails before the European Union, as well. After protesting HAARP, it is hoped that the government representing a growing number of European countries will also condemn chemtrails.


ESPANOLA LAB TESTS
In Espanola, lab tests of rainwater falling through extensive chemtrail plumes revealed levels of aluminum seven-times higher than existing provincial safety limits for drinking water. Other spray simply fell as visible, flesh-stinging particles, thick as snow.

Microscopic quartz particles predominated in the Espanola chemtrails analysis, with one chemtrails fallout sample taken from a car windshield showing an 80% quartz component. The electrical conductivity of quartz – especially its use by Nikola Tesla in his high-energy experiments - has raised speculation that the spraying over Espanola may have been connected with HAARP – and/or airborne laser experiments using a Boeing 747 as a weapons platform. An amateur radio operator has detected high levels of electrical energy over Espanola during heavy chemtrail spraying. On one occasion the Prime Minister’s aircraft was forced to make an emergency landing due to “electrical problems? while flying through the area.


THE TESLA CENTER
Also known as the “Tesla Center?, Ohio’s Wright Patterson Air Force Base is said to be the repository of that energy inventor’s prodigious papers and patents. Two scientists working on the chemtrail project at “Wright Pat? told Columbus Alive reporter Bob Fitrakis that besides climate-modification, temporary “chemical antennas? utilize barium sprayed by air force tankers to conduct radio and radar waves over-the-horizon. Extremely high energy beamed from HAARP could also be ?ducted? by barium chemtrails, affecting countries thousands of miles away from those planet-threatening Alaskan transmitters. [Chemtrails Confirmed]

HAARP was last ordered to full power one-week before Sept. 11, 2001. [All Fall Down: The Politics of Terror and Mass Persuasion]


HAARP HAUNTS ITALIANS
The Italians are especially concerned over HAARP. Despite the European Union’s diplomatic condemnation of HAARP several years ago, the monster with electronic claws continues to grow.

The holder of the original HAARP patents, Bernard Eastlund, has said that because of limited available electricity through a rural Alaska power grid, the only way for HAARP to reach high-power would be to generate its own power using North Slope natural gas. So HAARP watchers took note when, late last month as HAARP was ordered to double power output, the Bush administration approved natural gas drilling on Alaska’s North Slope.

Already the most powerful energy transmitter used to turn planetary processes against themselves, radio-frequency specialist Richard Lampe announced at last September’s Radio Frequency Interference meeting that HAARP’s experimenters hope to quadruple the power of its steerable energy beam “from its current 960 kW output to 3.6 Megawatts.? [The ARRL Letter Oct31/03]

DARPA’s drastic if not demented and possibly demonic 400% boost to HAARP’s already radical radiations will make this troposphere-twisting transmitter the worst in the world by orders of extremely risky magnitude.


BUT WHY?
The original idea and intent, Eastlund told me in an earlier interview for The Georgia Straight, was to manipulate weather at great distances using HAARP’s computer-controlled antenna array to “steer? part of the ionosphere around. (Think of Earth doffing her protective cap to killing gamma and x-rays from unprecedented solar flares.)
HAARP on steroids is not pretty to contemplate. But as Chemtrails Confirmed documents, the real plan is to pluck HAARP at one-billion watts - at which time all eco bets are off.

The HAARPists assured HAM radio operators that their beast is muzzled whenever its beam wanders to jam the entire75/80 meter band. But the taboo topic of what happens when HAARP’s high-power pulses trigger a cascading resonance in the ionosphere was not discussed.

The answer, according to engineers working on the project, is that HAARP’s hellish beam can be further energized by the energy already in the ionosphere. That extra shove invites another escalating oscillation - and so on - until our spaceship does a Columbia and shreds her protective outer shielding. The one that keeps cosmic rays out and Earth’s paper-thin atmosphere in. (Does anyone still believe that everything about the shuttle’s crackup was not a metaphor for our times – and an omen?)


EASTLUND’S CURRENT PROJECTS
Hoping to cash in on climate change, Eastlund says that his company ESEC has recently signed a contract with the European Space Agency “to review the weather modification potential of the HAARP facility in Alaska.?

Eastlund is also looking to abort budding tornadoes with HAARP - effectively turning off these whirling dervishes before wind speeds reach destructive force.

Another company courting catastrophes has already used USAF chemtankers to spray tons of gel into a budding hurricane in order to dry up the moisture that drove it. Who can argue with saving lives and property? But neither Eastlund nor Dyn-O-Mat has satisfactorily explained what happens to energy equivalent to hundreds of hydrogen bombs “dissipated? from tornadoes and hurricanes into our spaceship’s closed recirculating atmosphere. All that extreme weather-causing heat has to go somewhere.
Meanwhile, as exceptionally sudden and severe off-season tornadoes keep trying to remind North Americans of our folly, Eastlund enthuses over how all the juice needed to zap ?twisters? will magically emanate from “high power electromagnetic radiation produced with solar power satellites.?

Remember: we are all antennas. Even as low-power cellphones become recognized as worthy successors to Big Tobacco’s misery and mortalities, the Texas inventor has yet to describe the effects on wild and human lives already being hosed by HAARP at its present power levels.

For Eastlund, the danger of dreaming on planetary scales is that smaller details – such as the planet’s inhabitants – can be overlooked. His present preoccupations with HAARP include using it as a “missile shield antenna? against anyone stupid enough to invite instant massive retaliation by shooting anything bigger than a spitball through the air at the United States.
Whatever excuse is used, a handful of ionospheric hot-rodders want to hold HAARP’s pedal down. His personal fantasy, Eastlund says using somewhat different terms, is to unleash one-trillion-watts of power into the electrically Chaotic region capping our planet. As the sun continues to burp tsunamis of energy at the ionosphere, the unpredictable outcomes of goosing this already unpredictably fluctuating realm with so much more power include wild weather and blown-our power grids thousands of miles from Alaska. And maybe no more ionosphere.

If destroying Earth as a habitable planet is not ambitious enough, Eastlund’s “Current Projects Menu? also includes more techno “quick fixes? to planet-threatening pollution too profitable to make and “clean-up? to curb:

q weather modification using HAARP and North Slope gas

q high power solar satellites for weather modification

q ozone hole mitigation using electromagnetic processes some scientists fear could actually destroy the remnants of Spaceship Earth’s tattered radiation shielding.


But not if our Italian chemtrails allies can help it. According to the visiting filmmakers, Italy’s Democratic Left party - the country’s recent former government and now Italy’s official Opposition – is demanding a Parliamentary investigation into chemtrails and their possible connection to HAARP.


BARIUM FOUND IN CHEMTRAILS OVER ITALY, CANADA, USA
In Edmonton, Alberta last winter - after city landscape contractor Dave Dickie found electrical conductivity in city soils as much as 4.6 – 7-times higher than normal and acceptable levels - tests conducted by Nor-West Labs on snow samples collected from extensive chemtrails found levels of aluminum oxide and barium in northeast Edmonton at more than twice the levels recorded at a heavily polluted diamond mine.

Though barium is twice as reflectant as glass – and thus serves well as a sunlight reflector called for in the late Dr. Edward Teller’s “sunscreen? scheme – this common electrolyte is also an excellent conductor of electricity.

Vincent says that his group is currently raising money for more extensive – and expensive - tests on chemtrail fallout. But after collecting “white material? from the chemclouds, the Italians have already found “barium salts? in the mix.

While many barium salts are relatively “safe?, other barium compounds have been used as rat poison. Though the filmmakers did not know the type of barium identified in Italian chemtrails, we all wondered just who are the lab rats in this ongoing secret experiment?
Vincent reported widespread health effects following chemtrail spraying – including sudden nosebleeds suffered by his mother, sister and father in Florence after “many trails? there 18 months ago.


SMALL ORBS FILMED AROUND CHEMTRAILS IDENTIFIED
In other developments, video of small white orbs filmed near chemtrails in Italy have been identified as robot drones originally developed by the Italian military’s “Project Cipher?. The program was sold to the U.S. military after Cipher funding ran out in Italy in the ‘Seventies.


CHEMTRAILS SPRAYED FROM WINGS, NOT ENGINES
Duccio and Vincent also said they have excellent, high-resolution photos of spray coming off the entire trailing edge of sprayplane wings – “not the engines,? Vincent emphasized.

In their rush to make connections, the CD containing these pictures and other material was unfortunately left behind. I hope to post these photos - as well as exclusive footage of chemtrails over Italy - on this website shortly.


CONTRAILS DECREASING AS CHEMTRAIL COMPLAINTS CONTINUE
In related developments, NASA scientists say that despite a steady increase in commercial air traffic over Europe and the Continental United States in recent decades, normal airliner contrails have significantly decreased over central Europe, the heavily traveled North Atlantic Flight Corridor and the USA.

NASA’s 2002 study, “An Estimation of CONUS Contrail Frequency? used computer algorithms developed by atmospheric expert Patrick Minnis to estimate contrail frequency. The chemtrails debunker found that as of May 2002, estimates of contrail coverage over the North Atlantic and central Europe "are significantly smaller than those given in 1994.?


CONTRAILS – HEALTH HAZARD?
Official insistence that contrails are harmless is dangerous nonsense. Formed when pollutants and moisture in hot jet exhaust is momentarily flash-frozen on contact with a sometimes super-cold stratosphere, condensation trails from jet engines contain highly toxic petroleum particulates – including carcinogenic benzenes and naphthalene – as well as heavy concentrations of soot, and other contaminants detrimental to life. While jet fuel “fallout? readings under heavily-traveled air routes are not publicized, residents living around airports and military air bases continue to be stricken by jet fuel pollution in their air and drinking water. [Scorched Earth]

JP-8 - the sweet-smelling intoxicant connected with jet flight - is actually quite nasty. Since Desert Storm felled so many tanker crews, sparking a pilots’ exodus from the Air National Guard that currently continues, the US Air Force has spent more than $25 million studying the poisoning of ground crews and other personnel exposed to jet fuel fumes.

The findings aren’t worth any kind of paycheck: lung and liver damage, severe asthma, rashes – even mutated DNA derailing future generations.

AND THE CLOUD YOU FLEW IN ON
According to German atmospheric scientists, “normal contrails? have increased cloud cover over Europe by a climate-changing 10%.

In the science of a system so vast even part of a percentage point can signal major changes, since the jet age took off in the ‘Sixties, cloud cover over the United States has increased a whopping 5%. But for Americans living beneath heavily trafficked air corridors, 12,000 bumper-to-bumper jetliners making 62 million flights a year have increased local cloud cover by 20% - enough to crank the climate thermostat and the weather.

All this before chemtrails were added to the artificial cloud-making mix - starting big time around the winter of 1998, when so many got sick. Since then, citizens in at least 14 nations have been enduring the theft of their serenity, health and blue skies by chemtrails, contrails - or both.

It is all pollution. Even the “harmless? water vapor from all those jet engines traps five-times more heat than the CO2 spewed by those same toxic turbines.

The highest contrail concentrations in North America have been found over the Pacific Northwest, central Canada and the eastern Midwestern U.S.A. But NASA now reports that these regions – which used to see twice the number of contrails as the continental average – have been seeing significantly fewer contrails since the winter of 2001.
Which is interesting, since during this same time period people in Portland, Seattle and other Pacific Northwest centers were yelling bloody murder about being “hammered? by chemtrails. [Chemtrails Confirmed]

Even as international air transport authorities rejoice in reporting airline travel back to “near normal? planet-wrecking levels following airliner-delivered Sept. 11 and SARS, NASA studies have found “unusual weather patterns? – not curtailed airline flights – are causing the curtailed contrails … even as chemtrails over cities such as Portland, Marin and Santa Cruz remain a daily curse.


TAKE IT HIGHER
A Nov. 25 radio show in Santa Cruz heard many listeners calling in to express their outrage over continuous chemtrail activity over this previously sunny California coastal city.

With Orwell being more ruthlessly rewritten, and the Reich reemerging under the successor to its first Bush patron, perhaps it is time to envision connecting the issues, principles and coordinators that so far this year have brought more than 20 million people into the streets of our global village.

Imagine including chemtrails in anti-war, anti-globalist, peace, ecology and social justice
speeches and protests! After all, these issues are linked fundamentally. And the hour is so late, it’s already past. (We’re now in overtime. Together.)

Hopefully, the evidence and video Vincent and Duccio are bringing back to Italy can persuade parliaments in that country and the European Union to sound loud and uncooperative alarms over the chemtrails their own governments must be approving.

Which would be interesting.


BUSH THE GREAT UNIFIER
“Who gave Bush permission to do these things?? Vincent asked just before I spilled the pasta into the sink.

While we could still enjoy dishrack-drained fettuccini, it seems that none us at the table could stomach “Boosh?. From the stories the Italians related, current European concerns revolve around America’s increasingly Israeli-like occupation of Iraq, Bush’s last sanctioned stampede of the world’s worst carbon cowboys, the gulag at Guantanamo, implantable cash-and-ID chips, surveillance cameras and internal “watch lists?, complete suspension of the US Constitution and open talk by the Pentagon of a military government soon, the imminent and total bankruptcy of the world’s most indebted nation, depleted uranium as the Pentagon’s urban weapon-of-choice – and the real show stopper, to which everything else is a distraction.

If you don’t think you’re part of a Sixth Great Extinction Event proceeding faster than the last one that took out the dinosaurs and just about everything else – think chemtrails. And think again.

From chemtrails to climate change, global corporate extortion, and the escalating military and eco-terrorism coming from a White House as illegally occupied as Iraq - all present agreed on an ocean-spanning effort that “connects the dots? between the make-or-break issues of our times.

The time to reach out to Europe and the rest of the world is now.

William Thomas
Dec/3
 

Re: Chemtrail Overview

Has anyone noticed the sky today? It looked eerily different today than it did yesterday and tommorrow I'm afraid it may be stranger still. Who's that knockin...errrrumph...gurgle...help me!!!!
 

Re: Chemtrail Overview

"How would you feel if a govt agent was spraying chemicals from an aerosol can over your freinds, family and loved ones, and they didn't even notice it was happening."

Well, probably less concerned than if my friends were raving lunatics and were off there medication...
 

Wednesday was NUTS!

Did you see the sky Wednesday? Crazy trails all day, huge ones, weird rippling "clouds", it was absolutely insane! It's amazing how "in your face" they are. People are waking up faster and faster. Santa Cruz has gotten International attention recently, and the awareness here is growingt exponentially. Tell everyone you know. Get them to the local site. They ONLY reason they get away with this is because people are not speaking up!!! Take a stand for the planet.
 

Frequent Chemtrail Questions

CHEMTRAILS OR CONTRAILS?
FACs: FREQUENTLY AIRED CRITICISMS


FAC 1: You paranoid chemtrail conspiratorialists are seeing normal sky spoor from a marked increase in commercial air traffic. Combined with changing atmospheric conditions, these wetter and denser air masses are leading to lingering contrails and the artificial formation of cirrus-type clouds from ice-crystal condensation left by "rush hour" jet traffic.

Ans: There is no question that air traffic is up sharply throughout the world. Also that atmospheric change (including increased moisture) is contributing to increased natural and artificial cloud formation.

But not all sightings are of normal contrails. Experienced pilots, military personnel and other qualified observers note that:

1. Normal contrails dissipate less than one minute after formation. Many long-lingering "chemtrails" being reported across North America are being made at altitudes between 10,000 and 15,000 feet - well below the stratosphere where ice-crystal cloud condensation forms. Indeed, commercial aircraft entering spray zones often emit no contrails alongside "chemtrail" spraying aircraft. At higher altitudes and around airports, commercial jets have also been seen to leave pencil-thin contrails that quickly dissipate alongside fatter, billowing "chemtrails" that linger and spread out at the same altitude for hours.

2. Commercial aircraft do not cross each other's flight paths in Xs and grid-patterns at the same altitude. Concerned with making efficient point A to point B passages, airliners also do not fly back-and-forth in formation across the same patch of clear sky, laying long-lasting chemtrails for hours at a time.

3. Commercial aircraft prominently display their airline logo, "colors" and registration numbers. While configured after commercial aircraft, observed KC-135 and KC-10 spray aircraft are usually painted white and carry no identification markings.

4. Normal contrails come from the engines and wingtips of high-flying aircraft. They do not stream from the tails of airplanes equipped with wing-mounted engines. Chemtrails, on the other hand, have been observed through high-power telescopes and binoculars to be streaming from tanker tailbooms pointing downward at a 60-degree angle - the normal configuration for deployed refueling tailbooms. Chemtrails have also been observed streaming in thick white streams inboard of the wingtips but outboard of wing-mounted jet engines, where aerial tanker refueling probes are also deployed.

5. Contrails do not make people sick. Hundreds of eye-witnesses have become ill within hours of watching chemtrails woven over their heads. Many have tasted and smelled something metallic or corrosive in the air. Check the dates and locations of peak hospital admissions alongside sightings of heavy "spray days". They match.

6. Contrails do no rain cobweb-like material and jello-like "goo" over porches, power lines and police cruisers. Most likely caused by misadjusted or malfunctioning spray nozzles, this material has been tentatively identified by a microbiologist as a "bio-matrix" for hosting and dispersing pathogens. Uncontaminated, fully-documented samples of this aerial fallout are being analyzed now. Previous (though inconclusive) samples tested in Washington state, Ohio and Wyoming have revealed the presence of highly toxic ethylene dibromide (a component of JP8 jet fuel) and Pseudomonas Flourescens (a genetically modified bacteria that is extremely antibiotic resistant). Among other severe symptoms, both of these agents cause severe upper respiratory distress.

FAC 2: You are unfairly casting aspersions on the US military, accusing them of poisoning their own people.

Ans: The US military has conducted "Open Air" biowarfare testing involving dangerous pathogens and carcinogens and resulting in illness and fatalities over hundreds of American cities without the informed consent of residents since 1949. However, because these spray aircraft are unmarked it is not possible to assert at this time that the US government and/or US military are responsible. These agencies are accountable, however, for allowing these overflights to continue.


FAC 3: You have absolutely no proof that these "contrails" are causing illness on the ground. Have you forgotten that it is the height of a particularly severe flu and asthma season?

Ans: Even at the height of the flu season, hospitals and doctors' offices across the USA, as well as in Canada and England are typically operating at twice their usual winter influx of respiratory patients, with Emergency Rooms jammed and some hospitals closed to new admissions. While outbreaks of the Sydney (A) strain and Beijing (B) strain of influenza have been identified in major North American cities (along with Respiratory Syntytial Virus causing only mild cold symptoms in adults) - the acute and recurring bronchitis, pneumonia, asthma, sinusitis and unidentified viruses reported by worried doctors and nurses do not fit this "flu" designation.

Why an epidemic of pneumonia, bronchitis and unknown respiratory viruses is afflicting many thousands of adults and children coast-to-coast is unknown at this time. But it is suggestive that almost all outdoor observers of spraying have become sick with extreme respiratory symptoms within 24 hours of witnessing "contrails" unusual enough to excite comment and cause cameras and camcorders to be aimed skyward. Usually associated with damp, wet climates, outbreaks of bronchitis across the American southwest are unprecedented.

It is also suggestive that when two American veterans went to Veterans Administration hospitals for their annual flu shots several months ago, they were advised to get the pneumonia vaccine as well, because "pneumonia is going to be very big this year."

It is also suggestive that a nationwide 1-800-I-GOT-FLU tracking program is open only to participants who "qualify" by exhibiting specific symptoms after being exposed within 32-miles of known outbreaks within a specified time period.

It is also disturbing that on each of the three occasions that Washington state resident William Wallace has complained to the media of spraying over his remote mountain cabin, he and his wife Ann were attacked by jet and propeller aircraft diving in at treetop height to release spray within their property line. William and Ann Wallace remain sick, with William exhibiting several "marker" symptoms for infectious Mycoplasma Fermentans - the infamous Gulf War Illness.

After investigating GWI and exposing the origins of Gulf War Illness in my book, BRINGING THE WAR HOME it is the unconfirmed opinion of this writer that the outbreaks of Lupus and Fibromyalgia following some spraying incidents could actually be the look-alike symptoms of Mycoplasma Fermentans. The pneumonia outbreaks being reported across the USA may also be caused by Mycoplasma Pneumonia. Sputum and blood tests should be carried out to test this hypothesis.

Regarding the recent "flesh-eating" staph outbreaks in Delaware and Illinois, I also note that this Staph A belongs to the same family (genus) as Pseudomonas, strep and anthrax.

Until the lab results are in, lack of "proof" should not obscure an overwhelming preponderance of pattern and precedent. If a thousand people crowded around a field are sprayed with an unknown substance by unidentified aircraft...and if many of those people fall sick enough to be rushed to hospital...what would you conclude?
 

Not Convinced? Read this!

http://www.spectrezine.org/global/Hall.htm
 

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Those "clouds" rolling in early morning are dispersed Chemtrails!

The so called whispy "clouds" that you see in the early morning are NOT CLOUDS! The spray operation is definitely happening, even when you DON'T see the visible trails during the day. They are now spraying between about 2 am and 7 am, the period least likely to be seen! Sneaker fu%&*ERS!

Remember: It is NOT just about the visible trails. That is ONLY the smoking gun for about an hour. After that, they more and more look like clouds, if you don't have the eyes to know the difference. Since they are spraying VIRTUALLY EVERY NIGHT WHILE WE SLEEP FOLKS, you can be assured that the long, whispy, dispersed trails that you see in the morning are OVERWHELMINGLY chemtrails, NOT CLOUDS.

DON'T BE FOOLED. THEY HIDE MORE, BUT THEY DO NOT GO AWAY.

REMEMBER WHAT CRYSTAL CLEAR BLUE SKIES ARE LIKE? MAYBE NOT. LOOK AT SOME PICTURES FROM THE PAST, AND YOU MIGHT REMEMBER. WHY DO YOU THINK THAT THE SKIES OVER SANTA CRUZ ARE NEVER THAT DEEP BLUE ANYMORE? AN AMAZING AMOUNT OF INDUSTRY THAT HAS POPPED UP DRAMATICALLY SINCE 1999? SORRY, BUT IT DOESN'T EXIST. THE WASHED OUT WHITISH HAZE OVER THE SKY IS DISPERSED PARTICULATE FROM THE SPRAY OPERATION. THIS IS A FACT. WEATHER YOU KNOW IT OR BELIEVE IT OR NOT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

By the time the truth comes out, it will be too late, and whatever the health effects are will have long taken place and be deep within our systems.(and we can be sure that they are intense: breathing heavy meatal particulate in such unprecidented concentration as we are doing every day, has GOT to be very bad for us. PLUS WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT ELSE THEY MAY BE SPRAYING AS WELL!)

Some day you will look back and say, "wow, those Chemtrail people were right after all. What do you know".

The fact of the matter is they are getting away with it, and you aren't doing anything to stop them.

But you'll protest the Iraq war all day long, huh!!!

Unreal.
 

Re: Chemtrail Overview

I saw a beautiful blue sky just this weekend. Not a contrail in sight. Not a cloud in sight, either, except for some of the small puffy ones, and just a few of those. So, you're wrong there. Sorry.

And maybe one of the reasons why people don't pay attention to your claims is because they don't believe them. Simple. There has been pseudo-science throughout history. You ask what will happen when we one day look back and say "Boy, they weren't nutty paranoids after all". I counter that lots of false beliefs have come and gone, and this one will, too. Remember when it was "scientifically" proven that African slaves were inferior to European colonists? The fact is, you can manipulate information any way you want and get the answer you're looking for. You are obviously looking for a way to be frightened, and you found tons of "science" on the internet that is not reputable. You have taken an observation ("There are streaks in the sky") and some unrelated information ("there are patents for weather-changing operations") and made a conclusion ("those streaks are to change our weather"). Others don't agree, and don't follow the lack of logic.

We believe that stopping an unjust and illegal war that is killing hundreds of people every important. We have heard your statements, but our priorities are with the evils and pollution and whatnot that we know exist. Can't you just accept that and move on?

I know, you believe that posting on activist websites and having your own website is somehow "frightening" them into changing what they do. It seems like a leap, though, that secret, X-Files type people who want to change the world climate wouldn't really be scared away by some folks in nutty ol' Santa Cruz.

But your M.O. is clear- you'll say I'm a sheep or "one of them" and will take all coincidences or changes and make up elaborate stories to make your argument stronger and discard any information that makes it weaker and you'll go on, until you get bored with this and find another conspiracy to "uncover" and obsess about. That's fine. But stop bugging the rest of us to convert, please. I hate when religious people do it, and I hate when you do it.
 

Re: Chemtrail Overview

I've done my fair share in my day, but you people have eaten WAY too much L

I have been seeing contrails in the sky that last for a long time since I was a kid on the East Coast.

the funniest thing is that you don't even give a motive for why someone would do such a thing. "it's Big Brother man!!!" don't you think if they had such technology it would be used on other countries instead of us?

you people seriously need to get out more. the self pertuating discourse of the radicals in Santa Cruz is confining your mind. and I say that as a stong progressive/liberal.

Think about how much you fear and despise the wingnut ultraconservatives - you are turning into the exact same thing on the otherside of the balance.

oh wait, disregard everything I said because I'm a covert government agent! The sky is falling
 

It is normal to want to stay in our comfort zone.

"I saw a beautiful blue sky just this weekend. Not a contrail in sight. Not a cloud in sight, either, except for some of the small puffy ones, and just a few of those. So, you're wrong there. Sorry."

***don't be sorry. With all due respect, you wouldn't realize a Chemtrail if it were right in front of your face.

"And maybe one of the reasons why people don't pay attention to your claims is because they don't believe them. Simple."

***I hope that makes you feel better, but the fact is that many many residents of Santa Cruz are very much aware of the Chemtrail Operation. You just took the bait. I was speaking to the few who are still in denial. Like you for instance! Simple huh? yeah sure! oh...this isn't real. Simple! I can go back to protesting things 15,000 miles away now and be fast asleep to what is happening in my own sky! Simple!

"There has been pseudo-science throughout history. You ask what will happen when we one day look back and say "Boy, they weren't nutty paranoids after all". I counter that lots of false beliefs have come and gone, and this one will, too. "

***Sorry. But just because you are not aware of the obvious, doesn't make it go away! You are free to convince yourself otherwise though. Of course.


"Remember when it was "scientifically" proven that African slaves were inferior to European colonists? The fact is, you can manipulate information any way you want and get the answer you're looking for."


***Whatever floats your boat dude. There is no information being manipulated at all. Just lots of very clear evidence which you obviously have not taken the time to read. Don't get me wrong, you are not alone in choosing denial over reality.


"You are obviously looking for a way to be frightened, and you found tons of "science" on the internet that is not reputable. You have taken an observation ("There are streaks in the sky") and some unrelated information ("there are patents for weather-changing operations") and made a conclusion ("those streaks are to change our weather"). Others don't agree, and don't follow the lack of logic."


***ok dude. Then to keep yourself comfy, you can believe the "others" who don't agree. I am sorry to tell you, but weather or not you "agree" has nothing to do with it! Reality is not decided by consensus!!! What you say is "obvious" is actually a totally faulty observation. No one is looking for a way to be frightened. As a matter of fact the Chemtrails do not "frighten" me at all. I would take a long hard look in the mirror here. You are obviously in fear of the possiblity that the Chemtrails are real. You are in denial of your own fear. You can get through your fear and your denial by opening your eyes and having a little courage to face the truth. No one has taken the course you speak of. You obviously have not taken the time to see the tons of documentation which makes it very obvious that geo-engineering/weather modification programs are going on all over the country and all over the planet. This will be common knowlege in a few years. Right now it is not. It naturally brings up fear when you hear that the govt is spraying chemicals in the sky. Denial of the information and of the bringer of the information is a normal psychological reaction to something like this. No one has ever said they are trying to kill us off. But to simplistically write off the overwhelming documentation and evidence of the geo-engineering projects going on is truly disingenious.

"We believe that stopping an unjust and illegal war that is killing hundreds of people every important."

***Duh! Obviously stopping an unjust and illegal war is important! You don't have to be ignorant to what is happening in your own skies to be against the war you know. Many people are against "the war" and also aware of the Spray operation.

" We have heard your statements, but our priorities are with the evils and pollution and whatnot that we know exist. Can't you just accept that and move on? "

We? Speak for yourself! You are trying to lump yourself into a group in your own mind to make yourself feel good. Your priorities are with the evils and pollution that you know exist? That's very nice. No one is stopping you from focusing on your priorities. But just because you do not yet know about what is going on in your skies every day, doesn't mean it does not exist. It just means you are not aware of it yet.

"I know, you believe that posting on activist websites and having your own website is somehow "frightening" them into changing what they do. It seems like a leap, though, that secret, X-Files type people who want to change the world climate wouldn't really be scared away by some folks in nutty ol' Santa Cruz."

Well, you have a point here. They certainly are not "frightened" by us into changing what they do, as evidenced by the fact that they have not stopped spraying here. This is a Nato wide project, and a couple of big mouths in Santa Cruz are not going to stop a multi billion dollar operation that has been going on since 1998. They are hiding it more though, especially since Santa Cruz was featured on Coast to Coast Am, and all the recent activism that has been done here. I don't expect you to believe that though, and frankly it does not matter if you "believe" any of this or not. You WILL find out some day or another that, unfortunately, this is very real. I wish it were not for all of our sakes, but I would rather be aware of something that was happening rather than be in denial.

"But your M.O. is clear- you'll say I'm a sheep or "one of them" ..."

***Wrong again. I am not saying you are a sheep or one of them. I am saying you are not yet aware of what is going on in the skies all over America and right here in Santa Cruz. That's all.

"and will take all coincidences or changes and make up elaborate stories to make your argument stronger and discard any information that makes it weaker and you'll go on, until you get bored with this and find another conspiracy to "uncover" and obsess about."

***I hope this makes you feel better, but you are way way off track. Again. there are no stories being made up, and there is no information that can stand that denies the Aerosol Spray Operation. There is no information that makes the Chemtrail issue weaker. There is disinformation that is either consciously or unconsciously passed on, but it is a joke if you look at the facts.

"That's fine. But stop bugging the rest of us to convert, please. I hate when religious people do it, and I hate when you do it."

***Did you even read the posts here? Did you even go to the site and read the evidence? Obviously not, because you are not responding to the clear evidence that has been given. You are speaking from your own fears. It is not about "converting", it is simply about waking up.

Cheers!
 

Re: Chemtrail Overview

"the funniest thing is that you don't even give a motive for why someone would do such a thing."


***Actually the funniest thing is that you are making such a stupid statement which clearly shows that you have not even bothered to take the time to read any of the information!!! Are you a total fool or what? Over and over again the documentation clearly, specifically points to massive, Nato wide, geoenineering weather modification programs. Give me a break! At least read the information to find out what is being said before you make a comment on it!

"don't you think if they had such technology it would be used on other countries instead of us? "

***What "technology" are you speaking of? Do you even know what you are asking? It doesn't sound like it!

"you people seriously need to get out more. the self pertuating discourse of the radicals in Santa Cruz is confining your mind. and I say that as a stong progressive/liberal. "


***You are not a "strong progressive libral", from your idiotic statements you sound like an ignorant fool!!! I mean really, try to say something that at least pretends to be intelligent next time!

"Think about how much you fear and despise the wingnut ultraconservatives - you are turning into the exact same thing on the otherside of the balance."

***I don't fear and despise wingnut ultra conservatives nearly as much as bogus "strong progressive liberals" (whatever that means, you give them a bad name)!!!

"oh wait, disregard everything I said because I'm a covert government agent! The sky is falling"

***No, you aint smart enough to be a covert agent. You sound like a total idiot actually!
 

Strategies Against Climate Change

Strategies Against
Climate Change

Wayne Hall
The deadlock between on the one hand environmental NGOs warning of the dangers of global warming and on the other hand spokespersons for the United States government has on the face of it many similarities with the inertial deadlock of the later Cold War period (as analysed by the theorists of the non-aligned peace movements in the 1980s).



Just as the SALT treaties for the reduction of strategic nuclear armaments were continually obstructed by Republicans in the U.S. Senate in the 70s, so the 1997 Treaty of Kyoto – a very inadequate first step towards curbing carbon dioxide emissions in the atmosphere – is being blocked by the intransigence of their present-day counterparts (including, once again, a Russian element, for the Russian government’s support for Kyoto has been looking decidedly shaky since early December 2003).



The anti-nuclear weapons movement that arose in Europe in the 80s represented an attempt to break through the deadlock of the Cold War system. The approach was epitomised in the writings of E.P. Thompson, whose answer to the question: ‘What is the Cold War about?’ was: ‘It is about itself. The Cold War is a show which was put, by two rival entrepreneurs, upon the road in 1946 or 1947.’



The nuclear arms race, which should have been brought to an end in 1991, was an objective product of the Cold War deadlock. The global warming deadlock has generated a corresponding ‘objective product’, whose outlines can be seen emerging in the global warming debate that was taking place in the mid-nineties. It is called ‘geoengineering’. At the time of the Kyoto conference (and for a time afterwards) a number of articles were appearing in the popular scientific press that appeared to be trying to rally public support for geoengineering.



One of their favourite themes was that global warming is a technical, not a moral problem and so should not be allowed to be the monopoly of ecological non-governmental organizations pursuing an anti-development agenda. Such organizations were later said to be responsible for the decision at Kyoto to impose a fifteen percent cut on global emissions of greenhouse gases over the next decade. Economically this was seen as an indefensible decision , one likely to cost in the order of $250 billion a year, without taking into account the cost of losing the goods, services and innovations whose production would be halted or forgone.



The geoengineering proposal of consciously altering atmospheric chemistry and conditions, of mitigating the effects of greenhouse gases, was put forward as an alternative to calling for reduction of carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide emissions.



Geoengineering included land, sea and air-based components. Some of the remedies it was proposing, like large-scale planting of trees, appeared uncontroversial and in fact worthy of support. Others, such as the ‘Geritol’ cure of sowing iron filings into the oceans to stimulate the growth of carbon-consuming phytoplankton, seemed more problematic. Others again, such as the ‘sunscreen’ proposal of scattering millions of tons of metallic particles in the atmosphere to reflect sunlight back into space before it could be emitted in heat radiation and then absorbed by carbon dioxide, were probably judged by most geoengineering theorists to be virtually impossible to sell to the public.



Nevertheless, in the mid-nineties, valiant attempts were made to give geoengineering a good name. Gregory Benford, professor of physics at the University of California, estimated that the Arctic and Antarctic Oceans could be seeded with iron dust for between $10 million and $1 billion a year. 15 ships steaming across the polar oceans all year long, dumping iron dust in lanes, would bring the total to around $10 billion. ‘This would soak up about a third of our global fossil-fuel generated carbon dioxide emissions each year.’



‘Even better than dust would be microscopic droplets of sulphuric acid. Sulphate aerosols can also raise the number of droplets that make clouds condense, further increasing overall reflectivity. Coal-burning freighter ships releasing sulphates into the atmosphere could also spread iron dust into the sea, combining both approaches, with some economies.’

Probably the best-known of the aerial geoengineering proposals was that put forward in 1997 by Edward Teller and entitled ‘Global Warming and the Ice Ages: Prospects for Physics-Based Modulation of Global Change’ subsequently popularised in the Wall Street Journal in an article entitled ‘The Planet Needs a Sunscreen’.

Teller proposed deliberate, large-scale introduction of reflective particles into the upper atmosphere, a task he claimed could be achieved for less than $1 billion a year, between 0.1 and 1.0 percent of the $100 billion he estimated it would cost to bring fossil fuel usage in the United States back down to 1990 levels, as required by the Treaty of Kyoto.

Characteristic of the politics of Teller is the fact that he both ridiculed the idea of global warming and at the same time put forward what he represented as a solution to global warming. ‘For some reason,’ Teller observed sarcastically, ‘This option isn't as fashionable as all-out war on fossil fuels and the people who use them.’

Teller, who is of course known to history as the father of the hydrogen bomb and of the Star Wars missile defence programme, has not always succeeded in getting his pet schemes adopted. His ambitious plan, for example, for using hydrogen bombs to construct harbours in the United States, never made the move from the drawing board into reality. His sarcasm reflected a genuine problem: that of persuading the public that permanent mobilisation of thousands of aircraft to fly day and night, 365 days a year, over land and sea spraying toxic metals over the human, animal and plant populations underneath is a desirable, or even in any way defensible, proposal.

Gregory Benford was sensitive to the public relations difficulties. He said: “If geoengineers are painted early and often as Dr. Strangeloves of the air, they will fail. Properly portrayed as allies of science--and true environmentalism--they could become heroes. Not letting the radical greens set the terms of discussion will matter crucially. ?

One theoretician who helped keep radical greens out of the debate, and may even have succeeded in co-opting some radical greens into the debate, was the Stanford University environmental law student Jay Michaelson, whose ‘Geo-engineering: A Climate Change Manhattan Project’, was published in 1998 in his university’s environmental law journal. Like the name of Edward Teller, the title of Michaelson’s paper is a standing reminder of the continuity between geoengineering and the nuclear arms race. The paper is a masterful attempt to defend the indefensible. Asserting that geoengineering offers hope for solving climate change ‘beyond the too-little, too-lates of Kyoto’, Michaelson’s basic thesis is that ‘in a world where it is very expensive to reduce greenhouse emissions, those who care about the problem should support a policy that will work with those who don’t.’

Michaelson outlines three possible responses to climate change: 1) addressing its root causes, 2) doing nothing and adapting to climate change as it occurs and 3) trying to solve the climate change problem directly via geoengineering.

The impediments to addressing the root causes are the economic cost of cutting back on fossil fuel use, the social costs in a context of generalised dependence on automobiles, the question of equity, given the objection of the nations of the South to having to bear the cost of problems created by the North, and the harsh fact that enforcement of a regulatory regime forces most countries to go against their immediate interests.

The advantages of the second alternative, doing nothing, is that if predictions are correct, climate change is soon going to cease to be what Michaelson calls ‘an absent problem’. Increasingly disastrous evidence of the reality of climatic change will probably make it easier to gain consensus on preventive regulation. But the problem by then will have become one of choice of priorities: what and who should be saved and what and who abandoned?

These disadvantages led Michaelson, as he says, to the third solution of geoengineering. Geoengineering would shift priorities away from researching into whether the globe is warming into practical solutions that can be started immediately. It would not necessitate making greater demands on the developing world than on developed countries. It would indeed allow the developing world to be ‘a free rider’ on a project financed mostly by the industrialized nations. ‘Because it would restrict growth in the developing world less than regulation would, it would allow developing nations to progress more quickly away from the serious environmental threats of unsafe water, unhealthy air, and topsoil loss, through proven means such as sewage treatment, newer (cleaner) automobiles and factories, and modern agriculture.’ By relying on technological innovation and development, geoengineering would increase the role of private actors relative to that of government. Instead of requiring widespread enforcement of complex and growth-threatening rules, geoengineering would give private firms a financial incentive to help solve the climate change problem.’

For all his ostensible commitment to geoengineering, Michaelson conceded that in the final analysis ‘geoengineering runs afoul of almost every major trend in contemporary environmentalism.’ “‘Geritol cures’ and ‘earth sunscreens’ treat shallow symptoms, not deep causes, and fail to ‘kill two birds with one stone’ as would a serious programme of combating deforestation or cutting greenhouse gas emissions’?. There is much circumstantial evidence that he would really have liked the controversial character of his own proposals to contribute to developing a political climate that would make possible the implementation of real solutions to global warming. ‘If serious debate were to emerge,’ he says, ‘shock at geoengineering might wane in the context of rational reflection of the costs of climate change.’ But for the emergence of such a serious debate to be triggered by public shock at realisation of what is being proposed, and not only proposed but done, by the geoengineers, geoengineering must be publicly acknowledged, must be the subject of public debate, like genetically modified foods, cloning or nuclear power, all of which have interest groups publicly lobbying for and against them.

The wholehearted public embrace of geoengineering advocated by Benford, Michaelson and others in the nineties has not happened. The media has not tried to make geoengineers into heroes and portray them as allies of science and true environmentalism. Many global warming sceptics are even on record as saying that reports of geoengineering activities - aircraft engaged in large-scale spraying of aerosols in the upper atmosphere, could not be genuine - that such activities could not be occurring because they are not needed and would be criminal.

The big environmental NGOs such as Greenpeace, Friends of the Earth or WWF do not try to glamorise or otherwise promote geoengineering. They simply act as if it is not occurring. Their silence, to look at its positive aspect, possibly reflects a refusal to be associated with the task of making geoengineering look respectable.

The ‘invisibility’ of geoengineering is perpetuated through official denial. The US Air Force, whose KC-135R and KC-10 tanker planes have become a familiar sight in many different parts of the world as they engage in the daily particulate scattering operations of the ‘sunscreen’ programme, on its official site describes eyewitness accounts of these operations as ‘a hoax that has been around since 1996.’ ‘The Air Force’, it says ‘is not conducting any weather modification experiments or programs and has no plans to do so in the future.’ The ‘hoax’ accusation is energetically echoed by the seemingly large numbers of ‘debunkers’ frequenting chemtrail/geoengineering discussion forums, generating considerable confusion, as well as resentment at their characterisation as ‘chemmies’ (a variant on ‘commies’) those who wish to draw attention to the mysterious lines in the sky. Moreover, all elected politicians in the world above the municipal level, if they have heard at all of geoengineering, believe, or profess to believe, the official story that the sunscreen climate mitigation programme is ‘a hoax’.

One reason for the successful conspiracy of silence may well be the still unresolved status of geoengineering under international law. This is an issue that was being investigated, again in the mid-nineties, by the environmental lawyer Bodansky. Among the questions he raised were: who should make geoengineering decisions? Should all countries be able to participate in decision-making? (since all will be affected and there will be both positive and negative impacts). How should liability and compensation for damages be handled? From the legal viewpoint, schemes to inject particles into the atmosphere are purportedly among the most problematic of all geoengineering proposals because the atmosphere above any country is part of its airspace. Nations lay claim to their airspace and may act on the claims, for example, by shooting down aircraft. Geoengineering activity in the atmosphere could be viewed as infringements of national sovereignty. Obviously, the simplest way of dealing with legal problems of this kind, pending negotiation of the necessary adjustments to international law, is to deny that any such activity is occurring.

The publication on the internet in 2003 of an interview with an alleged ‘insider’ of the sunscreen programme (this is not its official name) working at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory cast further light on the difficulties involved in trying to promote a favourable image of geoengineering. Starting from the question of why polymer threads embedded with ‘biological material’ have been found in residues from aerosol spraying, the insider (given the pseudonym ‘Deep Shield’) explained that ‘since the suspended particles eventually do settle into the lowest part of the atmosphere and are inhaled by all life forms on the surface, there is an attempt to counter the growth of mould by adding to the mixture mould growth suppressants, some of which may be of biological material.’

Deep Shield acknowledged the potential of the aerosol spaying to cause sickness: ‘Some people are more sensitive to the metals, while others are sensitive to the polymer chemicals. It is true that people will get sick, and some will die. The World Health Organization has carried out most of the relevant studies. Some have said the ill effects will be minimal, along the lines of a million or so, while others have found the numbers to be far higher – 3 or 4 billion. The Accepted Estimated Casualties (from the World Health Organization) is 2 billion over the course of six decades. The majority will be either the elderly or those who are prone to respiratory problems.’

Emphasising the ‘globalist’ aspects of the operations and the need to ‘ensure the chemicals are not tampered with’ Deep Shield claims that ‘they are mixed and sprayed over random nations. This means that chemicals produced in the USA have a good chance of being sprayed over Russia. Russian planes may be seen in US skies, but so too will US planes be seen in Russian skies. The canisters are sealed in a third nation that has no idea where its canister is going. All of this is to ensure that that the shield is not used as a weapon. Non-participant nations are sprayed by participant nations, who must spray in order to get enough material to maintain their nation’s shield. It is understood that not spraying is as much a military offence as shooting at the planes.’

One implication of this spraying of non-participant nations by ‘participant nations’ is that, following the defeat of Saddam Hussein’s Ba’ath regime in Iraq, all of the Middle East – possibly including Israel, where spraying has started in recent months – is now being sprayed from bases in Iraq.

According to Deep Shield ordinary commercial aircraft are involved in the particulate scattering operations and are not diverted from their regular flight paths. ‘But the combined resources of the nations of earth are not enough to allow constant spraying. Though we have achieved a high level of technology, there is a great surface area that needs to be covered nearly daily. Large sections of ocean are all but ignored. The remaining land masses are more than what can be covered efficiently.’

Far from seeing his work as something to be proudly publicised, Deep Shield sees the existing secrecy as necessary to maintain public calm for as long as possible: ‘The Earth is dying. Humanity is on the road to extinction. Without the shield, mankind will die off within twenty to fifty years. Most people alive today could live to see this extinction take place. This means that an announcement of the situation we face boils down to telling every man, woman and child on earth that they have no future, they are going to be killed. People would panic. There would be economic collapse, the production and movement of goods would collapse. Millions would die in all cities on earth. Riots and violence would reduce civilian centres to rubble within days.’

The secrecy of the sunscreen project was justified to him, Deep Shield says, on grounds of national security. ‘All those who know are expected to remain silent. All those who suspect are either faced with trying to prove the virtually unprovable or are faced with good enough reasons to remain silent. I would assume that this situation is worldwide and this could be considered as one of the dangers of the project. I can see why there is a desire to repress the information, not that spraying is taking place but the face that we are facing a period of human history which might be the end of civilization.’

The stance of Deep Shield is deeply irrational, permeated by the same psychosis as the US government’s ‘War on Terrorism’. People whose conscience is clear do not think in this way. What Deep Shield says is nothing more or less than what many, particularly in the ecological milieu say to themselves, and to others, every day: that humanity is on the path to self-destruction. National security classification of the sunscreen project is absolutely unjustifiable and in total contradiction to the logic, however unconvincing, within which geoengineering was proposed as one of a number of possible answers to climatic change. Geoengineering was meant to be not simply a substitution for real action on the environment, but also possibly a facilitator of, and adjunct to, real action on the environment. Something it cannot be if it remains secret.

David Stewart, who took the ‘Deep Shield’ interviews, has quoted Deep Shield more recently as saying that the project is failing to do what it should do. He reports arguments (screaming matches) among the top brass and civilian-dressed military who come and go at the Lawrence Livermore laboratory. The arguments appear to Deep Shield to be about the expense of the project, the effectiveness and, more generally, the long-term outlook for humanity. Although there is no visible stack of bodies, as Stewart puts it, of people killed by the aerosol spraying, there is growing evidence of people dying from diseases plausibly traceable to the project. One black spot for casualties is in East Texas, where the initial tests for the spraying materials were carried out in the mid-90s. Projections of 1000% increases in Alzheimer’s disease, one of the side-effects of excessive exposure to aluminium, over the next decades, have emerged in the media in the last year or so.

The sunscreen project is not the only reason for which aerosol spraying is taking place in the atmosphere. Spraying is also being carried out to increase electrical conductivity in the atmosphere, facilitating the operations of HAARP, the High Frequency Active Aural Research Program, in Alaska. Also, some reports of the presence of disease bacteria in aerosol spaying do not fit in with Deep Shield’s explanation of biological materials being spayed to combat the growth of mould. This suggests that black operations are also in progress, parasitic on the pseudo-public-interest applications of geoengineering technology and on personnel who believe that the purpose of their work is the mitigation of climate change. If the sunscreen project is being used as a cover for other even more illegal and apparently criminal purposes, this is another argument for opposing its secrecy.

Many other issues require investigation. Is the current bonanza of cut-price airline tickets being supported by state subsidies to airlines for their services in spreading particulate matter? If so, and if Deep Shield’s statements on the financing of the sunscreen project are correct, then this is being done at taxpayers’ expense. Quite apart from any economic aspects, how sane is it, to have ever larger numbers of aircraft clogging the skies and burning ever larger amounts of fuel, in order to facilitate management of global warming caused by excessive burning of fossil fuel? Can a policy of moving to non-fossil-fuel based economy really be developed side by side with climate mitigation policies of this kind, if that is what they are?

Since the appearance of the first comprehensive study of global warming by the American National Academy of Sciences in 1992, the geoengineering debate has passed through a number of stages. The mid-nineties (the period before and after Kyoto) was the period of hype, of extravagant claims. The post-Kyoto period, apparently the period when policy began to be implemented, was the period when the respectable proposals of the day before suddenly became 'conspiracy theory'. The present period is one of controlled re-introduction of the subject, in such a way as not to expose the lies and omissions of the preceding phase.

A recent article in the British ‘Guardian’, under the title: ‘Earth is 20% darker, say experts’, reveals that ‘Human activity is making the planet darker as well as warmer.’ Scientists believe that ‘levels of sunlight reaching Earth's surface have declined by up to 20% in recent years because air pollution is reflecting it back into space and helping to make bigger, longer-lasting clouds.’ A certain Jim Hansen, climate scientist with Nasa, is quoted as saying; "Over the past couple of years it's become clear that the solar irradiance at the Earth's surface has decreased." The article claims that global dimming is probably caused by ‘tiny particles such as soot, and chemical compounds such as sulphates accumulating in the atmosphere.’

Returning to the subject of the deadlock over the Treaty of Kyoto engendered by the argument between defenders and opponents of global warming (or by the unilateralism of the United States government, as European and other international politicians like to tell us), the international environmental organizations such as Greenpeace, Friends of the Earth and WWF have shown through their silence on geoengineering that they are unwilling to help make it respectable by lending support to it. They should be given credit for that. But there remains the task of breaching the secrecy that surrounds the subject. Given that the ecological organizations are clearly not going to do this, we must initiate discussions with them to decide who should be assigned the task. Who is going to bell the cat?
 

Silly Chemtrail Freaks actually think our govt would test chemicals on human subjects!! What a joke!

http://www.dugway.net/
 

Military admits particles released over Santa Cruz in illegal military exercize!

"...Small particles released during a military exercise."
The following notice was posted on a Santa Cruz weather website on April 16, 2004.
It doesn't get much more blatant than this. Here we are being directly informed that they
are spraying "small particles" over populated areas and yet we are being told this in a manner as if it were just as natural of an occurance as the falling rain itself.
_www.skyhighway.com/~chemtrails/supporting_evidence.html
 

Dennis Kucinich: Another Conspiracy Freak?

Now, tell me this. Dennis seems to me like a pretty sharp guy. Would you agree?

Why would he author a bill in Congress banning space weapons and include Chemtrails if they didn't exist? Maybe he was just trying to humor some freaks in Santa Cruz! Nah, that's impossible, because he wrote this BEFORE we even knew about it. I don't know...someone PLEASE!
Explain this away so I can go back to sleep for God's sake!





Space Preservation Act of 2001 (Introduced in the House)

HR 2977 IH Dennis Kucinich


107th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 2977


To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

October 2, 2001

Mr. KUCINICH introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Science, and in addition to the Committees on Armed Services, and International Relations, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned



A BILL

To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Space Preservation Act of 2001'.

SEC. 2. REAFFIRMATION OF POLICY ON THE PRESERVATION OF PEACE IN SPACE.

Congress reaffirms the policy expressed in section 102(a) of the National Aeronautics and Space Act of 1958 (42 U.S.C. 2451(a)), stating that it `is the policy of the United States that activities in space should be devoted to peaceful purposes for the benefit of all mankind.'.

SEC. 3. PERMANENT BAN ON BASING OF WEAPONS IN SPACE.

The President shall--

(1) implement a permanent ban on space-based weapons of the United States and remove from space any existing space-based weapons of the United States; and

(2) immediately order the permanent termination of research and development, testing, manufacturing, production, and deployment of all space-based weapons of the United States and their components.

SEC. 4. WORLD AGREEMENT BANNING SPACE-BASED WEAPONS.

The President shall direct the United States representatives to the United Nations and other international organizations to immediately work toward negotiating, adopting, and implementing a world agreement banning space-based weapons.

SEC. 5. REPORT.

The President shall submit to Congress not later than 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, and every 90 days thereafter, a report on--

(1) the implementation of the permanent ban on space-based weapons required by section 3; and

(2) progress toward negotiating, adopting, and implementing the agreement described in section 4.

SEC. 6. NON SPACE-BASED WEAPONS ACTIVITIES.

Nothing in this Act may be construed as prohibiting the use of funds for--

(1) space exploration;

(2) space research and development;

(3) testing, manufacturing, or production that is not related to space-based weapons or systems; or

(4) civil, commercial, or defense activities (including communications, navigation, surveillance, reconnaissance, early warning, or remote sensing) that are not related to space-based weapons or systems.

SEC. 7. DEFINITIONS.

In this Act:

(1) The term `space' means all space extending upward from an altitude greater than 60 kilometers above the surface of the earth and any celestial body in such space.

(2)(A) The terms `weapon' and `weapons system' mean a device capable of any of the following:

(i) Damaging or destroying an object (whether in outer space, in the atmosphere, or on earth) by--

(I) firing one or more projectiles to collide with that object;

(II) detonating one or more explosive devices in close proximity to that object;

(III) directing a source of energy (including molecular or atomic energy, subatomic particle beams, electromagnetic radiation, plasma, or
extremely low frequency (ELF) or ultra low frequency (ULF) energy radiation) against that object; or

(IV) any other unacknowledged or as yet undeveloped means.

(ii) Inflicting death or injury on, or damaging or destroying, a person (or the biological life, bodily health, mental health, or physical and economic well-being of a person)--

(I) through the use of any of the means described in clause (i) or subparagraph (B);

(II) through the use of land-based, sea-based, or space-based systems using radiation, electromagnetic, psychotronic, sonic, laser, or other energies directed at individual persons or targeted populations for the purpose of information war, mood management, or mind control of such persons or populations; or

(III) by expelling chemical or biological agents in the vicinity of a person.

(B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as--

(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;

(ii) chemtrails;

(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;

(iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;

(v) laser weapons systems;

(vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and

(vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons.

(C) The term `exotic weapons systems' includes weapons designed to damage space or natural ecosystems (such as the ionosphere and upper atmosphere) or climate, weather, and tectonic systems with the purpose of inducing damage or destruction upon a target population or region on earth or in space.
 

Re: Chemtrail Overview

"At least read the information to find out what is being said before you make a comment on it!"

Actually, i first read about these 'chemtrails' in a flyer I was handed when Kucinich spoke at the Civic last spring. So yes, I'm familiar with the theories.

"Over and over again the documentation clearly, specifically points to massive, Nato wide, geoenineering weather modification programs."

Sure it does. I just read through nearly every link provided on this page and then clicked through from there. I'm sorry, but I found nothing even closely resembling evidence.

Let's take what seems to be your Holy Grail of 'proof' - the Ed Teller paper. Pointing to a single theory published in a journal is in no way evidence that it's proposal is being acted upon. It's just that, a theory shared in the scientific discourse along with the thousands upon thousands of others published each year.

I'm not surprised to find that the following wasn't included among its highlighted sections (emphasis mine) -

'We believe that, prior to any actual deployment of any scattering system aimed at full-scale 1% insolation modulation, **completely transparent and fully international research** in sub-scale could result in public opinion conducive to a reasonable technology-based approach to prevention of large-scale climatic failures of all types. International cooperation in the research phase, **based on complete openness**, is necessary and may be sufficient to secure the understanding and support without which any of these approaches will fail.'

It's ironic that the work of someone searching for a solution to climate change (albeit with a symptom rather than cause approach) is used as 'evidence' of wide-scale poisoning. But again this is simply a journal article, not evidence of any experiment.

Then there is 'Dr' Castle's article, which is primarily based on the Teller paper and the Air Force 2025 website.

You've accused me of not reading the information, but have any of you actually read the Air Force 2025's 'Weather as a Force Multiplier'? I highly doubt it. It is little more than an intellectual fantasy exercise. By 2005 this will happen. By 2015... etc. In other words it is similiar to how early television would show programs that projected flying cars and moonbases 30 years in the future.

Some choice quotes from the authors -

'This scenario may seem far-fetched, but by 2025 it is within the realm of possibility'

'Extreme and controversial examples of weather modification-creation of made-to-order weather, large-scale climate modification, creation and/or control (or "steering") of severe storms, etc.-were researched as part of this study but receive only brief mention here because, **in the authors' judgment, the technical obstacles preventing their application appear insurmountable** within 30 years.'

The only thing that made me even slightly pause was the 'interview' with a member of 'Project Deep Shield'. Maybe if there was some corroborating evidence such as a leaked document it might be feasible, but in abscence of that it smacks of fabrication. If you read it closely it says exactly what someone who wanted to believe in 'chemtrails' would want to hear, as if that person were actual part of the 'project' itself.

So enough with the name calling. If you have some actual evidence I am open to seeing it. Other than that all you have is a theory. What good scientists do when they don't have the facts to prove their theory is to discard the theory. When ideologues come across facts that don't fit their theory, they discard the facts.

So which are you? Have you read the opposing information such as that provided by Harry above?

I reminded of a lyric in the Beatles' Nowhere Man -

'He's as blind as he can be. Just sees what he wants to see.'
 

Chem Haze Covers Santa Cruz Saturday

Woke up this morning at 5am. Trails all over the sky. The hazy looking clouds today were ALL dispersed chemrails from last nights/early morning spraying. There was not a real cloud in the sky today. You can argue back and forth as much as you want. It doesn't matter. They love for us to argue and debate. Meanwhile the spraying goes on day after day. There is rarely a 24 hour period where they do not spray. Trying to convince people is almost impossible. People wake up when they wake up. Once they do, they see it was obvious. I have spoken to dozens and dozens of nice folks here in the area who for a long time thought it was a paranoid hoax. Then when they realize the truth, that it is very real and that the vast majority of the so called "clouds" that cover our skies are not clouds at all. Once your eyes are opened it it obvious. Until then it is impossible for people to believe it or even notice it. It's true folks. The sky is totally covered with it, right now, Saturday evening. It sucks, it's sad, and it's very unfortunate. Hopefully a whistle blower will come out soon and expose it. Anyone with a highpowered digital camera? The friggen spray planes are flying over our heads all day long! Zoom in on these puppies and you will find unmarked military aircraft. Call the FAA and you'll find no scheduled flight at that time. Anyway...it is almost impossible to get people to pay attention. It is not an easy thing to expose, but one day it will be exposed. By then it will be too late, and whatever the effects of the aluminum oxide and barium stereate aerosolized particulates that have been consistantly found in the lab tests in unprecedented levels after spray operation, will have taken full efect in our bodies. It is amazing how easily they are getting away with this. They will continue to get away with it, as those in the community who could make a difference would rather argue than realize the truth and speak out and activate. Oh well. You can lead a horse to water but...
 

Sunday without the sun

The sky was completely, totally covered with chem haze today. It was so gross. Did you notice? There was not a single cloud in the sky. This has got to stop.
 

Stop The California Blue Sky Lie!

Monday. Chemhaze again. This is a daily thing. Do you remember what a clear blue sky looks like?
 

Re: Chemtrail Overview

RE: Blue Sky Girl's comments:
Of course I know that some people who are against the war are also "chemtrail" activists. I was refering to the earlier post, "But you'll protest the Iraq war all day long, huh!!!". And yes, I have to admit that it is IMPOSSIBLE to prove a negative, so no, I will never be able to prove with exact certainty that there are no planes at all ever spraying chemicals into the air. But your job is easy because all you need to do is link up some dubious papers and theories (I like "Maybe its UFO's!" post just above) to say that it is possible.

But considering that almost all military craft is the same as the civilian craft (KC instead of DC for instance) just reconfigured inside, how can you tell the difference? And of course they are unmarked planes- all the planes I've ever seen at the airport are unmarked on the bottom! They are only marked on the TOP, which is hard to see when they are flying at 35,000 feet. It's things like this that show me that these theories you guys are putting forward are just that- theories. And while I can't 100% prove you wrong (remember, it's impossible to prove a negative), I can say that the preponderance of evidence is actually against this theory, so I don't believe it.

And to Ron and the post on Kucinich, yes, I do believe he is a little nutty. Well-meaning, but a little nutty. And the fact that the bill (which never saw the light of day, never had a hearing, and I doubt had any supporters), when reintroduced the next year ommitted "chemtrails" from its language should say something. For you all, it might say something like "the military got to him and made him change it", but to me it says "even Dennis Kucinich realizes that this is bunk".

And to your comment:
***I hope that makes you feel better, but the fact is that many many residents of Santa Cruz are very much aware of the Chemtrail Operation. You just took the bait. I was speaking to the few who are still in denial. Like you for instance! Simple huh? yeah sure! oh...this isn't real. Simple! I can go back to protesting things 15,000 miles away now and be fast asleep to what is happening in my own sky! Simple!**

I reply: You may be in denial that you are exhibiting classic symptoms of paranoia and delusional behavior. I hope that you feel better channeling your energies towards this issue, but then you're not dealing with the real issues underlying all of this. You may not believe it is real, but it is. Simple. You need professional help. Simple.

See, I can be nasty, too. We're not going to convince each other, so all I'm asking is that you keep this line of posting to your own websites, and away from legitimate activism.
 

What's it gonna take?

Hey Jerry,

"But your job is easy because all you need to do is link up some dubious papers and theories (I like "Maybe its UFO's!" post just above) to say that it is possible."

***Until you have been an activist for something that is NOT known and NOT popular you don't even know what it means to put your ass on the line bro.Easy? You are out of your mind. Do you think having to deal with major denial is easy? Think again!



"And of course they are unmarked planes- all the planes I've ever seen at the airport are unmarked on the bottom!"

***Wrong. Aircraft need to have indentifying numbers on the bottom. These spray planes have been photo identified as Kc 10 and kc 135 airforce refueling tankers all over the U.S.


"And while I can't 100% prove you wrong"

***It is not about me being "right" guy. You will never be able to 100% or any % prove anything, because very sadly it is 100% happening.I wish it were not! Weather you "believe" it or not does not effect the fact at all. Denial is comfy, but ignorance is not bliss.

"And to Ron and the post on Kucinich, yes, I do believe he is a little nutty."

***You believe that Dennis Kucinich is "a little nutty"? Please give some examples. Like what is nutty about his prospective policies? I think you are a little nutty!

"...when reintroduced the next year ommitted "chemtrails" from its language should say something. For you all, it might say something like "the military got to him and made him change it", but to me it says "even Dennis Kucinich realizes that this is bunk".


***Then why did he say publicly in Santa Cruz that Chemtrails were real. Your assesment of why it was taken out is totally off. Did you read the rest of the "space weapons" that he mentioned. Do you think they do not exist? He was under pressure to take Chemtrails out of the bill.


"You may be in denial that you are exhibiting classic symptoms of paranoia and delusional behavior."

***Actually it is you that is exhibiting classic symtoms of denial and ignorance! I am exhibiting symtpoms of courage and perseverance in spite of smart ass people like you who think they know what's up, but actually don't!


"You need professional help. Simple."

***You are a total idiot, and way off track. Simple! Duh!

"so all I'm asking is that you keep this line of posting to your own websites, and away from legitimate activism."

***This issue is not going away. More and more people in Santa Cruz are waking up to what is happening in their sky every day. People are becomming very aware (unlike you) that the Chemtrail Spray Operation is very very real, and they are outraged and sick of it. Fools like you sit back and think you know what's up, but you don't (literally in this case!)You don't know shit, and your statement about "legitimate activism" proves your are a total fool. This is as legitimate activism as any other, and all the more urgent because it is a covert operation and the activist community is still not aware of.

You think it is fun to be the bringer of bad news? It's not! Do you think it's fun trying to alert people to something that is hard to believe and has so many implications? It's not. Some day you will thank those who had the courage and awareness to speak out about this. Until then, please go back to your "legitimate activism" if you are doing anything at all, which I highly doubt.
 

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