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CHEMICALS IN OUR AIR!!!

Day after day, while we go about our lives in this virtual "paradise" of Santa Cruz, Something is being sprayed in our sky. AND NO ONE SEEMS TO NOTICE!!!!
All over Santa Cruz, people are waking up to the reality that we are being systematically, daily, sprayed with SOMETHING!!!
What is it and why???

Are chemtrails real? Is this some kind of stupid "conspiracy theory"? Santa Cruz residents are FINALLY waking up to the fact, that yes, the Chemtrail operation is very real, and that Santa Cruz is being sprayed virtually DAILY!!!

Stranger than fiction? Maybe. You'll have to come to your own conclusions. Think for yourself!
Find out the truth. Don't fall asleep in our beautiful lifestyle here in Santa Cruz. Open your eyes. Educate yourself NOW!!!



No one notices that there are rarely more than a small scattered sprinkling of stars at night. Years ago, the night time skies of Santa Cruz were covered with a blanket of infinite stars, and reaching to the heavens. NO MORE!!

And hardly anyone notices that even the so called "clear" days, are not really blue. Check it out for yourself! We've been conditioned not to notice that virtually every single day there is a whitish haze covering the sky. So that even the clear days are not a deep blue sky like the Santa Cruz skies used to be! Not even close.

They spray every night. We don't even notice. The planes are so quiet it is uncanny. I have seen them fly very very low, and you can barely hear them!! They kind of look like normal jet airliner, except they are not. They are photo identified kc135 airforce tankers!! And they are spraying a chem cover, day in and day out, over our entire sky. We're breathing it. When we rise in the morning, there is often not even visible "chemtrails" anymore, it's just a chem cover. Who would know? YOU!!!

Here's a couple of questions that I've been wrestling with: why are they denying it's happening, when tens of thousands or more people know it is?

If it's not bad for us, then what's the big secret?

And finally, if it really is some kind of weather modification, then are they spraying equally over populated and non populated areas? I wonder.

***YOU'VE GOT TO CHECK OUT OUR SITE! LOT'S OF PHOTOS OF LOCAL CHEMTRAILS! This is an eye opener!!!

_www.skyhighway.com/~chemtrails/


Interesting note: I called the FAA and spoke to this woman named Nancy. She told me, "I've heard of the chemtrails. I'm not sure how often they are spraying now"

weird, huh?!!! :-)



Ok, finally, I would like to share with you an (admittedly long) article I recently received from one of our crew. It is pretty interesting, to say the least. While there is obviously no way to prove if this information is real or not,
it certainly feels and sounds very legitimate. Is this the final story on chemtrails? Who knows! I don't think it would too easy to fake this. It sounds authentic, and the information is sobering, and chilling at the same time... but you'll have to feel it out for yourself.

Here it is. Read it if you feel inspired to. It is the most shocking and realistic picture of the situation I have come across.

I trust this meets you with a peaceful and happy heart. Remember...they can never touch our spirit. So have a beautiful day, and shine the star that you are!

love,

blue sky girl




"> > > >
> > > > The following is a letter (e-mail) written by a friend of a
> > > > correspondent. The writer appears to have an "inside track" on
> > > > the chemtrail spraying program. There was an opportunity to
> > > > ask specific questions relating to the aerial spraying and the
> > > > "insider" then answered the questions.
> > > >
> > > > I am aware of the insider's place of employment and the facts
> > > > presented conform with the type of activities that are carried
> > > > out there.
> > > >
> > > > The responses have the tone of someone with detailed inside
> > > > knowledge but for reasons of confidentiality it is unsigned.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > At 4 April 2003 some supplementary questions and answers have
> > > > been added.
> > > >
> > > > Points to Ponder: The Shield Project.
> > > >
> > > > Here we quote the communication from "Deep Shield": Having read
> > > > your email, I must say that you are full of questions. These
> > > > questions I would dismiss immediately as being the frustrated
> > > > attempts of fringe groups to bring a halt to the project,
> > > > however these reports of biological material being part of the
> > > > spray should be addressed. Therefore I will give as much
> > > > attention to all of your questions as possible.
> > > >
> > > > 1. What purpose do polymer threads imbedded with biological
> > > > material serve in this scenario?
> > > >
> > > > Polymers are part of the mixture and they do form in threads and
> > > > in `tufts'. The idea is simple and comes to us from the spider.
> > > > As you may know spider webbing is very light, some newborn
> > > > spiders spin a `parachute' to catch the prevailing breeze to
> > > > travel far from their place of birth. Spiders have been able to
> > > > attain high altitudes and travel great distances for long
> > > > periods of time. Most of the elements used in the spray are
> > > > heavier than air, even in their powdered form they are heavier
> > > > and will sink quickly. Mixing them with the polymers suspends
> > > > the particles in the atmosphere high above the surface for
> > > > longer periods of time, therefore in theory we do not need to
> > > > spray as often or as much material. Since the suspended
> > > > particles eventually do settle into the lowest part of the
> > > > atmosphere and are inhaled by all life forms on the surface
> > > > there is an attempt to counter the growth of mold by adding to
> > > > the mixture mold growth suppressants - some of which may be of
> > > > biological material.
> > > >
> > > > Mold comes in spores that travel on the winds; the polymers can
> > > > attract mold spores through static charges created by the
> > > > friction of the polymer threads and the atmosphere. Add a bit of
> > > > warmth and moisture and mold begins to grow. The polymer is
> > > > stored in a liquid form as two separate chemicals. When sprayed
> > > > they combine behind the plane `spinning' long polymer chains
> > > > (threads). Much tinkering has been done which the chemical
> > > > matrix in past years. Many polymers (plastics) are
> > > > non-biodegradable thus add to the problem of pollution. Various
> > > > formula have been used, some which even use biological agents.
> > > > It would be great if we could reproduce the same web material
> > > > that spiders make, it is extremely strong, extremely lightweight
> > > > and breaks down relatively fast in the ecology.
> > > >
> > > > 2. If this spraying is to mitigate global warming, why does so
> > > > much of it take place at night?
> > > >
> > > > Though it would appear that the dispersal rate of the spray is
> > > > fast, it is actually takes much longer to be an effective
> > > > shield. There is a desired concentration being sought. One that
> > > > is thick enough to stem the UV and the Infrared, while being
> > > > thin enough to allow visible light through. A perpetual cloud
> > > > cover would have disastrous effects on plant life; the food
> > > > chain thus disrupted would soon collapse. The desired effect
> > > > wanted is a thin cover that would theoretically create a daytime
> > > > haze that allows plenty of sunlight while providing protection
> > > > from UV radiation and also reflect enough infrared to maintain
> > > > nominal temperatures.
> > > >
> > > > The optimal condition is to use the least amount of material to
> > > > provide the maximum amount of shielding. Ideally that would be a
> > > > one- time application which would stay suspended for years,
> > > > however, as noted, barium and aluminum and other trace elements
> > > > are far heavier than air and they sink rather rapidly. The
> > > > different temperatures between day and night causes massive
> > > > volumes of air to rise during the night, the warm air trapped at
> > > > the surface rises above the cooling air above. By strategically
> > > > spraying in certain areas at night, we get the advantage of the
> > > > rising air, which not only pushes the material higher, but also
> > > > causes the material to disperse into a thin layer.
> > > >
> > > > I would suggest studying on the subject of weather, namely highs
> > > > and lows and how air moves to fully understand the times of
> > > > spraying. I note, it is not just global warming we are combating
> > > > here, we are also combating UV Summer. Global warming could
> > > > effectively be treated by applications during the night, when
> > > > the warm air rises. However the UV needs to be treated during
> > > > the day.
> > > >
> > > > This is why on some days one finds that more spraying is done
> > > > during the day. The UV indexes are monitored constantly for
> > > > local areas. If the problem were simply cooling the earth,
> > > > rockets would have been used to suspend particles in the high
> > > > atmosphere. However the delicate nature of the Ozone Layer
> > > > precludes this method of shielding. More on this in the answer
> > > > to Question 6.
> > > >
> > > > 3. What other military programs are in place involving the
> > > > spraying of barium and what are their purposes? Do you know and
> > > > understand the chemical make up of the element?
> > > >
> > > > A little knowledge will go a long way to understanding the need
> > > > to use barium: Barium is often used in barium-nickel alloys for
> > > > spark-
> > > >
> > > > plug electrodes and in vacuum tubes as a drying and
> > > > oxygen-removing agent. Barium oxidizes in air, and it reacts
> > > > vigorously with water to form the hydroxide, liberating
> > > > hydrogen. In moist air it may spontaneously ignite. It burns in
> > > > air to form the peroxide, which produces hydrogen peroxide when
> > > > treated with water. Barium reacts with almost all of the
> > > > nonmetals; all of its water-soluble and acid- soluble compounds
> > > > are poisonous. Barium carbonate is used in glass, as a pottery
> > > > glaze, and as a rat poison. Chrome yellow (barium chromate) is
> > > > used as a paint pigment and in safety matches. The chlorate and
> > > > nitrate are used in pyrotechnics to provide a green color.
> > > > Barium oxide strongly absorbs carbon dioxide and water; it is
> > > > used as a drying agent. Barium chloride is used in medicinal
> > > > preparations and as a water softener. Barium sulfide
> > > > phosphoresces after exposure to light; it is sometimes used as a
> > > > paint pigment. Barite, the sulfate ore, has many industrial
> > > > uses. Because barium sulfate is virtually insoluble in water and
> > > > acids, it can be used to coat the alimentary tract to increase
> > > > the contrast for X-ray photography without being absorbed by the
> > > > body and poisoning the subject.
> > > >
> > > > Note what Barium Oxide can do, absorb carbon dioxide - one of
> > > > the chief gasses causing the green house effect. In my answer to
> > > > Question 4 I will discuss the need to carry a current in the
> > > > shield. I would like to point out that barium and aluminum work
> > > > together to diffuse and strengthen an electrical charge.
> > > > Somewhat like the current produced when acid is introduced
> > > > between two dissimilar metals, such as iron and copper. There
> > > > are military applications for everything you can think of, can
> > > > not a butter knife be used as a weapon? The same concept holds
> > > > true here.
> > > >
> > > > 4. What is the connection between ELF, EMF, VLF and Chemtrails
> > > > spraying? Or is there one?
> > > >
> > > > To understand the use of radio waves in the shield, one first
> > > > understands how ozone is created. I cannot stress to you how
> > > > dire the situation really is. The shield in place is only a
> > > > partial solution; we must counter the depletion of the ozone-
> > > > this means we must make ozone in the stratosphere. Ozone at
> > > > ground levels does no good; indeed, ozone pollution at ground
> > > > levels it what is used to determine the air quality. Higher
> > > > levels of ground level ozone mean that air quality is bad. Pure
> > > > ozone is an unstable, faintly bluish gas with a characteristic
> > > > fresh, penetrating odor. The gas has a density of 2.144 grams
> > > > per liter at standard temperature and pressure. Below its
> > > > boiling point (-112?) ozone is a dark blue liquid; below its
> > > > melting point (-193?) it is a blue-black crystalline solid.
> > > > Ozone is triatomic oxygen, O3, and has a molecular weight of
> > > > 47.9982 atomic mass units (amu). It is the most chemically
> > > > active form of oxygen. It is formed in the ozone layer of the
> > > > stratosphere by the action of solar ultraviolet light on oxygen.
> > > > Although it is present in this layer only to an extent of about
> > > > 10 parts per million, ozone is important because its formation
> > > > prevents most ultraviolet and other high-energy radiation, which
> > > > is harmful to life, from penetrating to the earth's surface.
> > > > Ultraviolet light is absorbed when its strikes an ozone
> > > > molecule; the molecule is split into atomic and diatomic oxygen:
> > > > 03+ ultraviolet light ->0+02. Later, in the presence of a
> > > > catalyst, the atomic and diatomic oxygen reunite to form ozone.
> > > > Ozone is also formed when an electric discharge passes through
> > > > air; for example, it is formed by lightning and by some electric
> > > > motors and generators. Ozone is produced commercially by passing
> > > > dry air between two concentric-tube or plate electrodes
> > > > connected to an alternating high voltage; this is called the
> > > > silent electric discharge method. Since UV radiation is the
> > > > problem, we can not use UV to produce more stratospheric ozone.
> > > > Another method must be found. The shield acts like one plate of
> > > > the electrode, when tickled with certain radio waves; it
> > > > produces an opposite charge to stratospheric layers producing
> > > > low atmosphere to stratosphere lightening. Creating ozone where
> > > > it is needed.
> > > >
> > > > 5. If this is being done for the reasons you say, then why are
> > > > other chemicals being used, why are different sprays being used?
> > > >
> > > > Correcting the ecological damage that mankind has done has NEVER
> > > > BEEN DONE BEFORE. We are relatively new to this notion of
> > > > terraforming on a real scale. That is what we are doing,
> > > > Terraforming. We are trying to recreate the ideal
> > > > life-sustaining conditions on a dying planet. We have never done
> > > > this before, not intentionally. We are testing and trying
> > > > different methods. Granted, if we do nothing 89% of all species
> > > > will go extinct and humanity stands a high chance of not
> > > > surviving through two more generations (or less). However the
> > > > idea of 2 billion casualties death and permanent injury is not
> > > > easy to swallow either. Several attempts to improve the
> > > > application of Shielding material and getting the most out of
> > > > each application are taking place all the time. The combined
> > > > resources of the nations of earth are not enough to allow
> > > > constant spraying. Though we have achieved a high level of
> > > > technology, there is a great surface area that needs to be
> > > > covered nearly daily. Large sections of ocean are all but
> > > > ignored; the remaining land masses are more than what can be
> > > > covered effectively. The Shield would work best if it was a
> > > > single thin layer with out interruption, however due to the
> > > > movement of air, weather patterns and the sad fact that we do
> > > > not have the means to place ample amounts of material at the
> > > > same level at the same time we are getting a small fraction of
> > > > the effectiveness from our applications.
> > > >
> > > > 6. Why is spraying found before storm fronts? Is it to cause
> > > > drought?
> > > >
> > > > Before a storm there is a front, the front clears the air before
> > > > a storm, pushing particulate matter ahead of it, leaving a space
> > > > relatively clear of particulate matter. UV radiation levels rise
> > > > in these areas, sometimes to dangerous levels. The shield must
> > > > be maintained. Since barium absorbs water as well as carbon
> > > > dioxide, precipitation has been affected. Other kinds of sprays
> > > > are in development and testing which may reduce the affects on
> > > > precipitation. As I stated above, this is a new technology we
> > > > are working with, it is still in its infancy and there are some
> > > > problems with it.
> > > >
> > > > 7. Why are UFO's and disappearing spray planes reported?
> > > >
> > > > I do not know.
> > > >
> > > > 8. What about the reports of sickness after spraying?
> > > >
> > > > There are several causatives for this. Some people are more
> > > > sensitive to metals, whiles others are sensitive to the polymer
> > > > chemicals. As stated in a previous email, people will get sick,
> > > > and some will die. It is estimated that 2 billion worldwide will
> > > > be affected to some degree by the spraying. Without spraying we
> > > > have a 90% + chance of becoming extinct as a species with in the
> > > > next 20 years.
> > > >
> > > > 9. What is the relationship between these spraying programs and
> > > > One World Order?
> > > >
> > > > Personally I am against the move for globalization, and yes,
> > > > there is potential to use the Shield to speed up the process of
> > > > globalization, there are several countries that are involved in
> > > > this project: European Union Nations, USA and Russia are the
> > > > largest contributors to the project, many of the allied nations
> > > > and UN Members participate to one extent or another. The
> > > > material (chemical spray as you may call it) comes from all of
> > > > these nations. To insure that the chemicals are not tampered
> > > > with, they are mixed and sprayed over random nations. This means
> > > > that chemicals produced in the USA has a good chance of being
> > > > sprayed over Russia, England and the USA. This random spray of
> > > > material means that no nation would be certain that their
> > > > chemicals will be sprayed over a nation which they have issues
> > > > with. Russian planes may be seen in USA skies, but so too will
> > > > USA planes be seen in Russian skies. The canisters used are
> > > > sealed in a third nation that has no idea where its canister is
> > > > going. Participating nations have their observers at every
> > > > station where canister loading is done. All of this to insure
> > > > that the shield is not used as a weapon. To further insure that
> > > > the shield is not used as a weapon, non participant nations are
> > > > sprayed by participants who must spray in order to get enough
> > > > material to maintain their nations shield. It is understood that
> > > > not spraying is as much a military offense as shooting at them.
> > > >
> > > > Without the shield, UV poisoning would cause great death. The
> > > > threat is a common one, which has brought nations together in
> > > > defense. The natural outcome of having a common enemy is to
> > > > strengthen international ties - a step toward globalization.
> > > >
> > > > 10. Is the Spraying related to terrorism?
> > > >
> > > > Yes and no. Recent terrorist activity can be traced to
> > > > resistance groups who feel that we should not interfere with the
> > > > natural order of things. As you know, there are many rumors out
> > > > there as to what the Shield Program is. Some believe that this
> > > > is a population reduction scheme, designed to kill off
> > > > 'undesirable' peoples. While others hold that this is a mind
> > > > control program. There are many theories which have sinister
> > > > plots in them these are propagated by the resistance groups in
> > > > an attempt to stop the shield regardless of the consequences.
> > > >
> > > > The same delivery method could be used for biological and
> > > > chemical warfare. It could also be used to inoculate large
> > > > populations, the effectiveness of these uses are low, there are
> > > > better methods that can be used. As a means to fight terrorism
> > > > it is ineffectual, it is far easier to inoculate a population
> > > > individually and would insure full inoculation against germ
> > > > warfare.
> > > >
> > > > 11. Why all the secrecy?
> > > >
> > > > Due to the severity of the situation it is mandatory to maintain
> > > > public calm for as long as possible. The Earth is dying.
> > > > Humanity is on the road to extinction - without the Shield
> > > > mankind will die off with in 20 to 50 years. Most people alive
> > > > today could live to see this extinction take place. This means
> > > > that an announcement of the situation we face boils down to
> > > > telling every man, woman and child on earth that they have no
> > > > future, they are going to be killed. People would panic. There
> > > > would be economic collapse, the production and movement of goods
> > > > would collapse. Millions would die in all cities on earth, riots
> > > > and violence would reduce civilian centers to rubble within
> > > > days. Half of the population in dense metropolitan areas would
> > > > try to leave the cities seeking 'safety' in the rural areas
> > > > thinking that they would be safe. Those left behind in the
> > > > cities would be at war with their neighbors, fighting for the
> > > > remaining supplies. We would be telling the world that the world
> > > > is coming to an end, and even with the Shield the chances of
> > > > survival are small.
> > > >
> > > > UV Summer and Global Warming are the immediate problems we face,
> > > > there are far greater problems that are raising their ugly heads
> > > > and will present new problems which in some cases have no viable
> > > > solutions at this time. Ecologies are collapsing. The extinction
> > > > rate of species is climbing. The amount of chemical pollutants
> > > > in the water and soil are fast approaching and in many places
> > > > has surpassed the earth's ability to heal itself. Crop failure
> > > > is on the rise, even in the USA the returns on crops are smaller
> > > > than they were 10 years ago. Even with the advances in
> > > > genetically altered food crops, we are falling behind in our
> > > > ability to produce enough to go around. Throughout the 20th
> > > > century chemical fertilizers and pesticides were used to insure
> > > > the best yields. Unfortunately many of these have contaminated
> > > > ground water, killed beneficial insects along with the
> > > > undesirable insects. These chemicals have gotten into the food
> > > > chain and are affected other species besides mankind. It is only
> > > > a matter of years before famine spreads like a cancer throughout
> > > > the world.
> > > >
> > > > Clean fresh water is in short supply, in many places well water
> > > > is nonpotable, containing the run off of pesticides, herbicides
> > > > and fertilizers that have been used on crops and lawns. The
> > > > water treatment facilities we have are unable to scrub out all
> > > > of the toxins we have placed in the soil and water supply. Many
> > > > of the toxins we find build up over time in the body, a long
> > > > slow poisoning which has been making its presence felt in many
> > > > areas of the world in the form of cancers, leukemia, sterility,
> > > > birth defects, learning disorders, immune deficiency problems,
> > > > etc. These are on the rise, any good researcher can find the
> > > > records. For decades there was public outcry for the end to
> > > > pollution. For every small step we made to clean up our
> > > > production, millions where born who added to the problem. Yes,
> > > > pollution is down per individual, however there are a couple
> > > > more billion individuals producing pollution, thus the real
> > > > numbers have an increase in over all pollution produced. Name a
> > > > city that does not have problems with smog. You would be hard
> > > > pressed to find one. Though smog controls on automobiles is
> > > > higher than ever before, the number of autos on the road has
> > > > increased thus the amount of smog producing pollutants is higher
> > > > than ever before. All the clean air acts passed to curb
> > > > individual factory and auto emissions did not address the
> > > > production of more factories and more autos. Here an uneasy
> > > > compromise was made between the need to maintain the economy
> > > > against the need to maintain the ecology. The ecology lost since
> > > > it was estimated to be a problem decades from now. The economy
> > > > was a problem that would have dire effects today.
> > > >
> > > > All of these factors combined have produced a scenario that in
> > > > shorts boils down to the end of the world in 50 to 75 years.
> > > > Even if we were to stop all emissions of pollution today, the
> > > > inertia of past decades is enough to carry us over the brink in
> > > > 100 years. However we cannot stop the production of pollution,
> > > > to do so would mean shutting down every factory, every auto,
> > > > every train, truck, ship and every household on the planet.
> > > > Electricity is used to heat many homes in the Western World. The
> > > > production of electricity produces fewer pollutants than heating
> > > > all homes with wood or coal. Cutting our power generation
> > > > abilities down to hydroelectric and fission reactors would leave
> > > > a good chunk of the world in the dark. It is an impossible
> > > > situation, our civilization is geared to the use of energy, take
> > > > away our energy and civilization will collapse.
> > > >
> > > > 12. When will spraying stop?
> > > >
> > > > There are several factors governing this:
> > > >
> > > > A. Should the Ozone layer repair itself or our active attempts
> > > > at repair reduces the amount of ground level UV to acceptable
> > > > levels, spraying will stop. Present calculations place this
> > > > between 2018 and 2024.
> > > >
> > > > B. Should another method be found which is more effective, less
> > > > costly or presents us with long-term solutions the Shield
> > > > project would be replaced.
> > > >
> > > > C. When the other problems become too big to make the
> > > > maintenance of the shield worth the effort. The estimated date
> > > > for this is 2025 to 2050.
> > > >
> > > > 13. Since Global Warming and UV summer are the problem, why is
> > > > the Government backing down on its pollution controls?
> > > >
> > > > Because they are ineffectual and will cause more economic
> > > > problems than they would solve ecological problems. We surpassed
> > > > the threshold of Earth's ability to absorb pollutants in the
> > > > 1970's. Since that time the earth's population has nearly
> > > > doubled. Emerging Industrial nations have come into being, more
> > > > pollutants are produced now than back then, even with the
> > > > stringent controls in place. The world is heading for economic
> > > > depression, more emission controls would add to the economic
> > > > problems. This translates into our being unable to do anything
> > > > to start solving the problems.
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately our technologies require a strong economy to
> > > > advance. We need that advancement, we need the trillions of
> > > > dollars spent on research that a strong economy causes. Each
> > > > corporation that produces a product has a product development
> > > > program in place. Many of the past products invented came by
> > > > accident through other unrelated products. There is a corporate
> > > > drive to find methods to clean up the ecology, to reduce
> > > > emissions, etc. These goals have been in place for decades, many
> > > > of the large corporations are in the know when it comes to the
> > > > ecological problems we face thus they are spending a great deal
> > > > of money and time on finding solutions to the problems we face.
> > > > Take away the economy and their research stops.
> > > >
> > > > 14. How are you related to the Chemtrails? How do you know that
> > > > this is what is happening?
> > > >
> > > > I would prefer to not state who I am or how I am related to all
> > > > of this. To validate what I say, would require a bit of research
> > > > on your behalf. I would recommend the following subjects to look
> > > > up and study:
> > > >
> > > > A. Population numbers for industrial nations and the tons of
> > > > pollutants produced annually. Start with 1975 and work your way
> > > > up.
> > > >
> > > > B. Number of emerging Industrial Nations.
> > > >
> > > > C. Number of cases of Skin cancers worldwide.
> > > >
> > > > D. Crop Production vs. land area dedicated to crop production.
> > > > Simple math will show that more acreage is needed to produce
> > > > food per individual.
> > > >
> > > > E. Automobile production from 1975 to present, estimated number
> > > > of autos on the road and the average emissions of later model
> > > > cars produced as compared the emissions of earlier model cars. A
> > > > little math will show that though individual autos produce less
> > > > emissions, the amount of emissions has risen due to the number
> > > > of autos on the road. Remember that many autos are the road that
> > > > were built before present emission control standards. 1980 is a
> > > > cut off date - anything put on the road before then produces
> > > > more pollutants than autos produced today. I would include
> > > > research in the number of diesel autos produced, diesel has not
> > > > been under the emissions control acts.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > F. Severity of storms and the number of severe storms. Also
> > > > include heat waves and droughts in that research, you will find
> > > > that the numbers are staggering when compared to data from 1950,
> > > > 1960 and 1970.
> > > >
> > > > G. Research how naturally occurring Ozone is produced in the
> > > > stratosphere. Compare to how it is produced industrially.
> > > >
> > > > H. Research political reforms in the past 30 years, see which
> > > > political institutions have changed, which nations have joined
> > > > with whom. Concentrate more on these from 1982 onward. This
> > > > would include the fall of the Wall and Iron Curtain.
> > > >
> > > > I. Research polymers and how they are made, look at recent
> > > > research done in biological polymers, medical polymers and
> > > > filaments.
> > > >
> > > > J. Check out spiders and spider web and the way spiders use
> > > > their different webs and threads.
> > > >
> > > > K. Research clean fresh water estimates as compared to the
> > > > 1970's to today - world wide.
> > > >
> > > > L. Research the following medical conditions per capita: Birth
> > > > Defects Cancers Leukemia Immune deficiency diseases (excluding
> > > > virus borne ID illnesses such as HIV) Occurrences of Learning
> > > > disabilities, including dyslexia, ADD, and over all IQ tests
> > > > Sterility for both male and females world wide Instances of
> > > > glaucoma and cataracts.
> > > >
> > > > M. Compare the history of UV indexes from 1970 to present. You
> > > > may note that it was on sharp rise until 1997-99.
> > > >
> > > > N. I would strongly recommend researching the reactions of
> > > > different barium and aluminum compounds and how they are used.
> > > > Research how long it takes for these metals in pure form to
> > > > oxidize, how they combine with nitrates, carbon monoxide carbon
> > > > dioxide and fluorocarbons and hydrocarbons and water vapor.
> > > >
> > > > O. Research how mold propagates, the conditions it needs to grow
> > > > and just how abundant it is in the atmosphere.
> > > >
> > > > If you pursue these lines of inquiry, you will see the Shield
> > > > Project as it really is.
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > ---- --
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At the time of the US-lead invasion of Iraq I had the
> > > > opportunity to ask a few supplementary questions. There has been
> > > > no attempt to integrate these questions and answers into the
> > > > previous section therefore some may appear somewhat out of
> > > > logical order. A couple of the questions have a Canadian
> > > > approach. By the way, I came up with the name - have to call the
> > > > source something! Here we quote the further communication from
> > > > "Deep Shield":
> > > >
> > > > 15. Could you, "Deep Shield" - be described as a scientist
> > > > or...?
> > > >
> > > > Scientist is a good generic term. I do study and research in a
> > > > scientific manner. I carry papers and degrees. My official
> > > > capacity is in direct research of atmospheric issues in relation
> > > > to pollutants. I also create models of potential long-term
> > > > effects of green house gasses on the climate. Predict wind
> > > > patterns, weather patterns, etc.
> > > >
> > > > I have spent a good many years working on the project
> > > > calculating the amount of material needed and creating models
> > > > for dispersion patterns. I work w/other members who know the
> > > > chemicals used and their interactions with the atmosphere,
> > > > pollution and water vapor. I am part of a team which itself is
> > > > part of a larger team, which is part of still a larger team.
> > > > Government work with many chiefs and levels above the workers.
> > > >
> > > > 16. Are you prepared to comment upon your personal motives for
> > > > sharing this information?
> > > >
> > > > Not at this time, no.
> > > >
> > > > 17. Have you signed a non-disclosure or Secrets Act document
> > > > that specifically relates to this project?
> > > >
> > > > Yes.
> > > >
> > > > 18. To your knowledge what categories of individuals officially
> > > > know of the Project and are expected to remain silent? For
> > > > example, my list of suspects includes government down to the
> > > > county level, military especially air force, meteorologists,
> > > > health specialists, mainstream media etc.
> > > >
> > > > All those who know are expected to remain silent. All of those
> > > > who suspect are either faced with trying to prove the virtually
> > > > unprovable or are faced with good enough reasons to remain
> > > > silent. I would assume that this situation is worldwide and
> > > > could be considered one of the dangers of this project.
> > > >
> > > > It was presented to me as a matter of national security. I can
> > > > see the reasons why there is a desire to repress the information
> > > > not that spraying is taking place but the hard little fact that
> > > > we are facing a period of human history which might be the end
> > > > of civilization.
> > > >
> > > > 19. Is the mainstream controlled media specifically ordered to
> > > > avoid any mention of chemtrails? If so, have you anything
> > > > further to add such as how was this done?
> > > >
> > > > I would assume that the Media is controlled by its own desire to
> > > > make money from what it reports. Since there is enough debunking
> > > > out there, which says that contrails are part of the normal use
> > > > of jet engines in the atmosphere, this would leave a reporter
> > > > with very little to report unless there was solid evidence or
> > > > pictures or something that could not be explained away.
> > > >
> > > > You must know by now all the debunking methods that have been
> > > > employed. The 'official' announcements are the media's main
> > > > dish. The rest they regulate to the realm of the National
> > > > Enquirer.
> > > >
> > > > 20. What government agency or agencies control this program? Is
> > > > it under international control?
> > > >
> > > > It is an international program. Many nations contribute in
> > > > different ways. Measures have been taken to insure that what is
> > > > sprayed over all countries is the same through triple blind
> > > > deliveries; which include not knowing where a certain canister
> > > > will end up, not knowing which aircraft a certain canister will
> > > > be flown, and not even knowing who (in military craft) will be
> > > > piloting a craft which has the purpose of spraying (Note: in
> > > > today's world there is usually a mixed crew of different
> > > > nationalities flying any one military aircraft on a Shield
> > > > mission). I believe the Media caught Canadians in Iraq recently
> > > > when Canada's official say on the matter was that Canada was not
> > > > giving any support to the military might. The fact remains that
> > > > there were Canadian military with the USA forces. Some on
> > > > aircraft carriers most being pilots. I think you can connect the
> > > > dots.
> > > >
> > > > 21. How is the project funded - who pays for it? Have you any
> > > > idea of the total direct operating cost? Also, does Canada make
> > > > a funding contribution for the activities in our skies?
> > > >
> > > > Most governments tend to over charge themselves to cover for
> > > > their black operations (unofficial operations). That money comes
> > > > out of the collection of taxes. So in effect the taxpayers of
> > > > the world are paying for this project.
> > > >
> > > > I would assume Canada does contribute funding to the Project.
> > > > Canada is one of the top nations contributing time, material and
> > > > funding to this project. Most of the Free World, the Western
> > > > World, has taken on most of the burden of the costs.
> > > >
> > > > 22. Is the Shield Project the only such aerial spraying program?
> > > >
> > > > Is it the only project designed to avert ecological disaster?
> > > > Then yes. There are countless other projects that could be
> > > > taking place which include spraying of some sort or another.
> > > > Pesticides are usually sprayed. There has been great interest in
> > > > weather control such as bringing rain to arid regions and taking
> > > > the punch out of hurricanes and typhoons.
> > > >
> > > > Weather control may be one of the final options left to us.
> > > > Considering the amount of global warming that has taken place.
> > > > There is a strong need to deflect a storm's fury, or to bring
> > > > rain back to those regions which have been suffering drought.
> > > > What Mother Nature has done for millions of years automatically
> > > > may now require mankind's hand to keep the schedule.
> > > >
> > > > 23. There are reports of four different chemtrail programs and
> > > > other "code" names. For example, see: Holmestead: Chemtrails -
> > > > what are they? Any comments?
> > > >
> > > > It is possible that the Military does have a use for similar
> > > > sprays. I cannot speak for the Military. However, my own
> > > > personal research has come across these things as well. Are they
> > > > possible? Yes. Are they practical? Only in the small scale say
> > > > over the battlefield, or in the case of say the Iraq War, over
> > > > Baghdad. Global application would be far too expensive and would
> > > > require an obvious flight pattern of grids, circles and other
> > > > heavy spray patterns.
> > > >
> > > > 24. Is all the spraying done using the "tank kits" described
> > > > earlier or are the KC-135R and KC-10 types filled to the brim?
> > > > Such aircraft have a load capacity of 200,000 pounds or more for
> > > > refueling missions.
> > > >
> > > > No. Several types of craft are used. Commercial jet airliners
> > > > are used and they are not diverted from their flight paths to do
> > > > so. How the canisters and the spraying is done on this kind of
> > > > craft is unknown to me exactly. I do have my suspicions. I know
> > > > best that which is my field; this is not to say that we do not
> > > > talk around the water tank. So I know more than just my area and
> > > > am able to think the matter through to its logical end.
> > > >
> > > > I do know that even all the commercial jetliners in use are not
> > > > enough to insure complete coverage all of the time. My computer
> > > > models require knowing how much material needs to be sprayed.
> > > > Certain conditions cause wide areas to suddenly (over hours)
> > > > open up in the Shield. Then and only then is mass spraying done
> > > > - and would be done with the most logical craft, a tanker.
> > > >
> > > > Why not spray more from individual jetliners? That is one of the
> > > > problems. Jetliners do not carry much material (100 to 500
> > > > gallons) because the material has to be spread out thinly. Look
> > > > at the kinds of material being used, aluminum, barium, titanium,
> > > > etc. Most are highly reflective; in some instances the material
> > > > is an absorber of gasses. In the case of reflection the desire
> > > > is to reflect X amount of heat and X amount of UV while still
> > > > maintaining acceptable (nominal) levels of UV and heat reaching
> > > > the planet's surface.
> > > >
> > > > Life requires a certain amount of both UV and Heat too much will
> > > > kill - so will too little. The apparent amount looks like a lot
> > > > more than what is actually being sprayed per volume of air it is
> > > > covering. Most of the whitening of the sky is not the material
> > > > per se, but the collection of water vapor, which forms into
> > > > suspended ice crystals. The introduction of the material causes
> > > > the water vapor to collect like rain collects on individual
> > > > particles of dust. Too much material would cause a "mud fall" of
> > > > sorts where the naturally occurring water vapor would
> > > > precipitate carrying the material with it.
> > > >
> > > > Spraying is done in such away as to "layer" the material
> > > > through a volume that will allow an acceptable level of UV and
> > > > heat through along with all the other wavelengths of light.
> > > > Photosynthesis is the foundation of life on our planet.
> > > >
> > > > Only when all the material is removed in a local area does it
> > > > require a massive spray, this is usually in the front of a
> > > > weather system, or after a heavy period of precipitation. Then a
> > > > tanker is flown, fully loaded.
> > > >
> > > > 25. Is there any truth in the story that some of the spraying is
> > > > done by jetliners with modifications in the "honey" or waste
> > > > compartment? For example, see mechanic story: Mechanic.
> > > >
> > > > The technology used for spraying is rather simple. It requires
> > > > at least two tanks under pressure, each carries half of the
> > > > mixture which is sprayed at the same time forming a complete
> > > > compound which is designed to be lightweight (so as to be
> > > > suspended for longer periods of time).
> > > >
> > > > There have been attempts to incorporate the materials in jet
> > > > fuel, however the material binds with unburned jet fuel, water
> > > > vapor, etc and does not have the added buoyancy of the polymer
> > > > threads. The end result is a spray that is less than half as
> > > > effective and is more dangerous since it can lead to sulfates,
> > > > acids and other mixtures, which are more lethal than the spray.
> > > >
> > > > It is very possible that the "honey" compartment is used. The
> > > > amount of material needed is small compared to the payload of
> > > > any given commercial airliner.
> > > >
> > > > However, there is a good deal of fuel tank that is not used.
> > > > Airliners only fuel their craft for the journey ahead of them;
> > > > they rarely top off the tank. This has become public knowledge
> > > > in light of 9-11. It was this small fact that caused the
> > > > terrorists to pick pan- continental flights so they would have a
> > > > plane fully loaded. The majority of flights are short range and
> > > > do not require the full capacity of an airliners fuel tanks. Any
> > > > adaptations needed could easily be done during routine
> > > > maintenance, and could be easily explained away as being a
> > > > modification for safety and-or pollution controls.
> > > >
> > > > This last is my own theory.
> > > >
> > > > We can assume that any means possible to deliver the material is
> > > > tried. Independent nations may favor one way of doing so over
> > > > another.
> > > >
> > > > 26. Where are the official sources that state that a certain
> > > > number of people (worldwide?) will sicken and possibly die as a
> > > > result of the spraying? In other words, what *internal* studies
> > > > have been done on the health issues and who carried them out?
> > > >
> > > > WHO (World Health Organization) carried out most of the
> > > > studies. Other nations have carried their own research on the
> > > > matter. Some have said the ill effects will be minimal - along
> > > > the lines of a million or so, while others have found the
> > > > numbers to be far higher - 3 to 4 billion.
> > > >
> > > > Some of the organizations include the CDC and independent labs.
> > > > We are dealing with a situation where the amount of
> > > > contamination is estimated to be far higher than what would
> > > > normally take place but is far lower than historical instances
> > > > of industrial contamination. This is important to note, the only
> > > > real history we have with barium/aluminum/titanium etc.
> > > > contamination is through factory workers, miners, etc, who
> > > > receive a far greater dosage of the material than what is to be
> > > > experienced by the populace under the Shield.
> > > >
> > > > The amount of spray is very small compared to the volume of the
> > > > space that is covered. Most of the harmful chemicals that are
> > > > used are being dissipated over vast areas. Near coastal regions
> > > > the fall out is not reaching land at all, but is being carried
> > > > out to the oceans. The addition of polymers to make the material
> > > > remain suspended in the air longer means that less material is
> > > > being used. Today the material used and its application is
> > > > nothing like in the early days when it was sprayed in greater
> > > > quantities and settling far faster to be inhaled by all.
> > > >
> > > > The accepted Estimated Casualties (from WHO) is 2 billion over
> > > > the course of 6 decades. The majority will be either the
> > > > elderly, or those who are prone to respiratory problems. These
> > > > numbers are based on the current estimates of the general health
> > > > of the population, the average age and the occurrence of
> > > > respiratory problems as a health issue. All are estimates since
> > > > there are no solid numbers to work with.
> > > >
> > > > 27. Could you summarize the root causes of the initial
> > > > destruction of the atmosphere that requires this "repair" work?
> > > > Did it perhaps result in part from fluorides released/produced
> > > > by the nuclear weapons programs?
> > > >
> > > > In a word - Industry. Most fail to understand that the products
> > > > we use, wear and live with are made in a manner that dumps CFC's
> > > > and green houses gasses into the atmosphere. There is no one
> > > > single causative in this issue. It goes way back to the
> > > > Industrial Revolution and the use of coal to power steam
> > > > engines. Since that time we have consumed greater and greater
> > > > energy resources, dumping the waste where ever we wanted.
> > > >
> > > > Up until very recently refrigeration was a big contributor,
> > > > imagine all those hundreds of millions of households that owned
> > > > and operated freon cooled refrigerators from 1940 to 1970. Not
> > > > just one refrigerator per household, but over the course of time
> > > > often multiple freon units. This doesn't include the various air
> > > > conditioner systems or industrial refrigeration systems. For a
> > > > long period when the refrigerator or air conditioner unit was
> > > > replaced, the old one was taken to the dump and thrown into the
> > > > heap - the freon was free to escape and make its way up into the
> > > > stratosphere to eat away at the ozone layer.
> > > >
> > > > You can add to that list. Think of all the cars that had air
> > > > conditioners, think of all those hair spray cans with their
> > > > propellant gasses - the amount of those alone were enough to do
> > > > great damage.
> > > >
> > > > Styrofoam is another industry and product that has contributed
> > > > to the problem. In the scheme of things atomic energy has
> > > > contributed little compared to the consumer goods that have been
> > > > manufactured during the past century.
> > > >
> > > > Think of all the cars on the road today. In the late 1970's smog
> > > > controls started getting stronger. Think of all the pre-1978
> > > > cars on the road - they are still producing a good many
> > > > chemicals that leech into every corner of the globe.
> > > >
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Re: CHEMICALS IN OUR AIR!!!

I have been reading this discussion for quite some time and felt that I had to add to this discussion because, for once, I see people who are motivated to address a true issue.
One I know a little about.

Point of fact that Skeptical and Blue Sky are both correct in one of their items. Chem Trails are about 6 miles up, or about 20k to 35k feet ... say there are 5k feet to the mile they really are between 4 and 7 miles up there.

Let me explain a little about why this issue is so easy to dismiss.
As a plane flies there is high pressure under the wing and low pressure on top. This is what causes the plane to fly; elementary physics will teach this to you. In my work as an atmospheric chemist I know a little about how a plane flies. At the very tip of the wing - where the high and the low pressure coincide - the air does not know what to do so comes off the wing like water going down the drain - high pressure to low, get it [???]- and if the air is humid water condenses and you see a 'cloud' ... MOST of the lines are from 'trailing edge vortices' ... look it up; you will find it in any advanced aerodynamics text ... I worked for NASA studying this prior to joining the NSA. Part of our work from NASA was to design wing tips for the 747-400 ... go look; you'll see them. We designed them to allow the air to behave cohesively at the tip of a wing.

Chem trails are a real issue. I am an atmospheric scientist working with the NSA. Why, you ask, would the National Security Administration be interested in having atmospheric scientists on their staff ... and why would one of them know anything about chem trails.

You will remember, at the beginning of the Iraq War that there was the worst storm EVER in that part of the world. The NSA is extremely interested in organizing the weather for military operations.

So the skeptics amongst you will ask: why would a Proud Republican Scientist within the NSA be posting classified information on a public web site. Truth be told I feel awful. The weather storms induced in Iraq killed many American Patriots. There are American people who will never see their family members again because of a miscalculation within my office.

Let me close in summary:
Through extensive experimentation and through work we obtained from Soviet sources - who are equally interested in controlling the weather for military purposes - we have developed a method of seeding the upper atmosphere with x-cyanide and x-barium crystals. Atmospheric moisture concentrates around the deposit effecting localized climate change. Through various compositions and mixtures we have the ability to induce rain through severe storms. In Iraq a technician, on site in Dubai, read the mixture wrong and induced a monsoon. The media never reported a monsoon; they reported a sand storm ... if you would never expect a monsoon in Iraq you would never call a storm one ... but look up the data yourself; how much rain did fall, and for how long. Long enough for the atmospheric chemistry to disburse.

Thank you for all your kind work.
 

Re: CHEMICALS IN OUR AIR!!!

Guess you'll have a lot to talk about at your next meeting.
 

MORRISSEY & SOQUEL

MAY 19 2003 3.30 pm
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CHEMTRAILS OVER OUR TOWN!
SANTA CRUZ, CA
MAY 19, 2003
 

Re: CHEMICALS IN OUR AIR!!!

Blue Sky,
Judging from your pictures I would speculate that you have pictures of trailing edge vortices. However, if it would be useful to you I will endeavor to review the records I have access to for region 9, Monterey Bay.

For your pictures it would be quite useful if you recorded the exact time the picture was taken; the orientation of the camera [both in a north / south fashion and angle of elevation with 90 being straight up and 0 being horizontal]; and the approximate altitude of the artifact [in meters].

Please reply if you would like me to look into this for you.
 

Re: CHEMICALS IN OUR AIR!!!

Blue Sky,
Judging from your pictures I would speculate that you have pictures of trailing edge vortices. However, if it would be useful to you I will endeavor to review the records I have access to for region 9, Monterey Bay.

For your pictures it would be quite useful if you recorded the exact time the picture was taken; the orientation of the camera [both in a north / south fashion and angle of elevation with 90 being straight up and 0 being horizontal]; and the approximate altitude of the artifact [in meters].

Please reply if you would like me to look into this for you.
 

Re: CHEMICALS IN OUR AIR!!!

I was so happy earlier this evening to see that actually there was a sky covered with stars. I have been watching the skies for months, and it's true. The cloudless days do in fact have a whitish haze, almost imperceptable, and the night time skies, far more often than not, have very few stars.

It is 2am now, and sure enough, those stars are dim and few.

I have also noticed that in the last several weeks as this issue has become very hot around town, and many more people are realizing the truth of the chemtrail situation, that "they" really do seem to becoming expert in hiding it. They are being much more discreet about the spray operation, and not spraying nearly as much "trails" as had been done previously.

This is to eerie! They MUST know we're on to them, or they would have probably kept up what has been going on (for how long? I'm scared to know!)...the spraying of visible chemtrails in the sky. I used to see them much much more often, until just recently. Their pattern does seem to be to spray off shore so the wind blows it over us, and to spray at night when no one will notice.

It's the middle of the night, when no one is noticing, and the cover is there for sure, the stars are few and dim. It's just too freaking weird!

I have also noticed the faint metalic smell, virtually on a daily basis. Recently I spent some time far away from the actual City of Santa Cruz, or even surrounding cities. I was camping way out there in the woods, and I still smelled this chemical smell. There was absolutely no where even remotely close that could have generated that chemmy/metalic smell.

SO WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THIS?!!!

Does Mayor Reilly know? People need to contact her and the City Council and really take this to the next level.

I did some searches on the internet about chemtrails, and checked out the sites referenced in some of the posts on this site, and the evidence proving the reality of Chemtrails is huge. I have no doubt anymore that they are real, and it's making me really pissed off.

I FEEL TOTALLY VIOLATED. I also feel really dissapointed that so many Santa Cruzan's are so jaded and distracted that they either "don't have time" to find out about it, "don't believe in Chemtrails" or just don't give a shit!

This is supposed to be the most conscious city in the country right? We're the cutting edge environmentally, socially, politcally, and lead the way for the entire country on many crucial issues, as we all know. Even we lead the way as far as toxin awareness, flouride, etc. etc.

SO NOW LET'S LEAD THE WAY IN BRINGING AWARENESS TO THE CHEMICALS THAT ARE COVERING OUR SKY EVERY DAY!

I first heard about this issue almost two years ago, and didn't pay much attention to it. Now I am, and the people who are educating us here are doing a great service to the community. After all, breathing is fundamental. And heavy metals are going to seriously mess with our bodies, in major ways. We have GOT to find a way to stop this. I am really concerned. Please spread the word.
 

Feedback from an expert

Everyone talks about the weather, and many countries are doing something about it..."


Dear Friends Concerned About Chemtrails,

Reading the following report gave me chills. Every clue and concept teased from a four-year investigation into chemtrails is confirmed, placed in project and planetary context – and often elaborated by someone claiming to be an "architect" of the chemtrails project.

If genuine, this "insider's report" confirms the chemtrails program currently underway over at least 14 allied countries.
But is this latest "inside" chemtrails scoop more authentic than earlier "insider" report - including the faxing flyboy at Aspen's airport, and the emailing "mechanic" who claimed to have installed chemtrail spray tanks in airliners?

It is as impossible to verify this speaker's bona fides as any other anonymous email.

True, this person certainly knows atmospheric chemistry – exactly as claimed. Though much of this textbook information is irrelevant to the discussion at hand and seems more intended to impress than elucidate chemtrails.

Still, the current emergency – known to scientists as Earth's "Sixth Great Extinction Event" (the Fifth was the end of the dinosaurs) – is real enough. If despite increasing onslaughts of wild weather and uncharacteristic temperatures you think global warming is some kind of enviro/fascist/commie/White House plot and not something that is coming directly out your tailpipe, check out 2030: Thermageddon by Robert Hunter.

Or turn on the Weather Channel.

Or read the report below. Two zingers stand out:

1. "It is estimated that 2 billion worldwide will be affected to some degree by the spraying."

2. "Without spraying we have a 90% + chance of becoming extinct as a species with in the next 20 years."


My specific comments on points raised in this interview, and my verdict on its veracity, follow this report.

My best to all,
Will Thomas
----------------------------
SOME COMMENTS ON THE LATEST CHEMTRAILS "INSIDER" REPORT

By

William Thomas




May 20/2003

The Chemtrail Report currently circulating by a proclaimed project insider is an excellent compendium of current chemtrails evidence set forth in Chemtrails Confirmed, the video "Chemtrails: Mystery Lines In The Sky, as well as the work of Clifford Carnicom in Santa Fe, Bob Fitrakis and Kim Weber in Ohio and other prominent chemtrails investigators.

The email report also offers details on the project timetable and frightening warnings of a two billion-person cull and total collapse of our spaceship's unraveling biosphere "within 20 years".

The notion of an even more drastic cull of Earth's human populations have been put forward by White House advisers for decades – without acknowledging that the most dire population threat comes from the planet-threatening consumption, waste and pollution by overdeveloped nations– not teeming the "Two-Thirds World" whose indignant, indigent indigenous populations aspire to the West's profligate lifestyle.

The imminent crackup of Space Colony Earth within 20 to 30 years continues to be predicted by eminent scientists, as well as orgs as prestigious as the World Wildlife Fund. We are currently in the midst of a "Sixth Great Extinction Event" which is seeing species disappearing into permanent extinction even faster than the last Great Extinction, which eliminated dinosaurs and most other species from this planet over a span of millennia, not mere decades.

The originator of this report could have drawn on all of this readily available information to compile her/his responses to an email correspondence for which no identification or return e-address was given.

He or she could also be speaking from direct, first-hand knowledge of the chemtrails project.

Let's take a closer look at some of the statements made by these latest "inside" revelations:


BARIUM
With its characteristic brilliant white color, barium is also highly reflective. So chemtrail perpetrators could achieve a "two-for-the-price-of-one-application" by spraying a material that acts as an electrolyte to conduct radar and radio waves – as well as weather-changing and subterranean x-raying HAARP transmissions, and ever-present electromagnetic smog – while also reflecting the sunlight heating up the "greenhouse" gases trapped in Earth's atmosphere. Barium has nearly double the refractive index of water – and is even higher in reflectivity than glass. It has turned up in chemtrail-contaminated precipitation samples taken last winter in Edmonton, Alberta.


POLYMERS
Using gossamer polymers to drift on the upper winds and keep relatively heavy chemtrail particulates suspended in the atmosphere make sense. But I wonder about the assertion of polluting "non-biodegradable polymers" allegedly used in chemtrails. Since this phenomenon burst into public purview in 1998, one of the biggest obstacles to sampling chemtrail "cobwebs" continues to be the degradation of these fine, rapidly biodegradable strands, draped in 40-foot lengths over porches, power lines and police cruisers. HAARP's inventor Bernard Eastlund has identified Ohio-produced polymers that can be tuned to HAARP's specific frequencies. [see also Chemtrails Confirmed]


NIGHT SPRAYING:
The explanation given for frequently reported night chemtrail spraying also "tracks". Remember, too, that when discussing our living planet's daily cycles of respiration, the biggest heat differentials in the atmosphere occur after dark. Spraying a "Welsbach seeding" material that changes the wavelength of trapped solar heat into frequencies capable of radiating into space should work well at night. [See Chemtrails Confirmed]


TWO BILLION KILLED BY CHEMTRAILS - "HARD TO STOMACH"?
According to this "insider", the CDC is complicit in a WHO plot to kill two billion people over the next six decades – mostly the elderly and those prone to respiratory problems – through exposure to chemtrails.

Where does this freakish figure come from? While severe illnesses and even deaths have been attributed to respiratory and/or gastrointestinal, and even heart complications following exposure (particularly among the elderly) – there are no current health statistics showing a genocidal jump in state or provincial mortalities.
Nor have any documented, lab-tested samples of chemtrail-contaminated snow and rainfall revealed deliberately induced pathogens in the spray.

A 10% dieback in population, which is the definition of genocide, would see bodies stacked in the streets.

This unnamed source could forward the referenced WHO report without revealing their identity. Documentation is absolutely essential for this assertion of a two billion-person chemtrail cull to be credible. And repeatable.

(In contrast, the "Deep Sky" source interviewed by radio reporter S.T. Brendt on three occasions – twice in front of radio station WMWV witnesses – did reveal his name to Brendt and has been thoroughly checked out as a high-level FAA air traffic control manager. His chemtrail observations have been corroborated by eye-witnesses including, and other than Brendt, who has also spoken personally to controllers confirmed by her primary source regarding their continuing chemtrail radar observations.)

If the long-rumored and never substantiated chemtrail cull is true, whether fatalities from chemtrail spraying are intentional or an "unintended consequence" of the program – why not go for it?

Policy makers Kissinger, Prince Philip and similar dim-bulb luminaries have called for a cull of a significant portion of Earth's human population in order to prevent ecological and economic meltdown. So it can only be assumed that killing low-income "useless eaters" and elderly "human weeds" (to quote early American eugenicists) would be quite easy to stomach by elite exploiters concerned by the continuing crackup of our spaceship's life-support systems.

MANY NATIONS ARE ACTIVELY PARTICIPATING
The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report cited in Chemtrails Confirmed calls for 10 million tons of chemtrail particulates to be spread on the atmosphere. If participating countries are "randomizing" deliveries of chemicals to chemtrail spray-plane bases, as this source alleges, transport of megatons of raw material across oceans, national and interior boundaries must be "trackable". I have been unable to track such large-scale commodity movements, or sales of barium and aluminum oxide on the Net. Perhaps a professional stock analyst could spot "spikes" in commercial barium and aluminum oxide production. Except for meeting the size requirements of 10 microns called for by the Hughes Patent, neither material requires commercial refining.
willthomas.net/greekreport.htm


RUSSIAN CHEMTRAILS
Another problem is that there are no chemtrails reports coming out of Russia, as claimed by this "Deep Shield" correspondent. Nor are chemtrails being photographed over the former Soviet Union, Central or South America.


BIOWAR AND INNOCULATIONS
Another problem with this "insider's" response is the assertion that chemtrails "could be used for biological and chemical warfare. It could also be used to inoculate large populations." Though the writer goes on to admit that "the effectiveness of these uses are low" – they are in fact zero. Spraying biowarfare agents and inoculations against "cocktails" of biowar terror agents is also contrary to established biowar practice and common sense.

Chemical and biological agents such as those used during Desert Storm [see Bringing The War Home] are dispersed at night from low altitudes to assure adequate concentrations – and delay rapid degradation by daylight UV, rain and wind.

A second consideration is that there are not enough chem/bio agents available to load a squadron of KC-10 tanker planes – each capable of dispensing 320,000 pounds of fuel or other chemicals – never mind hundreds of tankers over decades.

Ditto expensively stockpiled and suspect "vaccines" delivered by the tanker-load. The "aerosol inoculations" now being produced and patented for the US military are intended for nasal ingestion – like an asthma spray. Spraying vaccines from airplanes flying in the stratosphere would be as useless as deliberately spraying fragile bugs or chemical agents from those freezing, nearly airless and irradiated altitudes to cull a population on the ground. As Dr. Len Horowitz has so thoroughly documented, contaminated vaccines are the best bet for infecting targeted populations. [See Emerging Viruses, also Death In The Air]

CANADA
While some 38 Canadian soldiers served alongside US forces in Iraq as part of an ongoing military personnel exchange – and were not recalled despite Ottawa's professed non-involvement in that illegal invasion – Canadian Forces pilots are not "carrier qualified". Canada operates no aircraft carriers and its few fighter pilots have no need to be carrier-capable, as this writer alleges.

But "Canuckistan", with its high-latitude vulnerability to ozone depletion and a toasted Prairies breadbasket, would indeed be keen on supporting a chemtrails program. And keeping it quiet. Ottawa already has a record of secretly collaborating with the Pentagon on conducting "open air" biowar experiments on Canadian schoolchildren in Winnipeg and other cities.


COMMERCIAL AIRLINER CHEMTRAILS
This source claims that "Commercial jet airliners are used" - as recommended in the original Hughes patent. S/he admits, "how the canisters and the spraying is done on this kind of craft is unknown to me exactly" – before going on to claim, "The technology used for spraying is rather simple. It requires at least two tanks under pressure."

Once again, unlike federal air traffic controllers and military flight crews, airline mechanics are not bound by strict secrecy oaths. A practice that might expose innocent passengers to toxic chemicals or unsafe flight procedures would surely be exposed – to the press, or at least to airline captains supposedly ignorant of modifications the FAA says must be logged in the mechanical logbooks of all modified aircraft.

It's hard to believe that any airline captains apprised of the non-standard installation of pressurized chemical tanks in the back of their airplanes capable of venting aerial pollutants in direct contravention of EPA and FAA regulations while possibly endangering the lives of all onboard would do not raise hell and refuse to take-off.

The Hughes patent calls for aluminum oxide and other sunlight-reflectant materials to be put directly into jet fuel for disbursement through the engine exhaust. Hardly negligible, as this source claims, some 15 million flights per year (before 911) would see chemtrails disbursed around the globe.

But the Hughes patent "For The Reduction Of Global Warming" also warns that this concept probably won't fly due to opposition by some nations, and by citizens angered over the visual whitening appearance of the sky.

Our anonymous correspondent confirms that plastic polymers cannot be sent through the intense heat of a jet engine – hence the need for special spray apparatus readily visible on any crowded airport ramp in the country. To date we have seen zero photographs of any type of spray apparatus on US Air Force tankers or commercial airliners. Small executive jet Cessna Citations have been photographed close-up revealing spray nozzles to dispense chemicals used in atmospheric tracking and research.

As Sid writes of these FAA-registered jets in white NOAA paint schemes:
"I've watched the Citation and Lear type jets destroy the oncoming storms for the last three years. KCs also! I immediately sent copies of the photos to Cessna Corporate headquarters and to Pratt & Whitney corporate offices in Canada and
Connecticut P&W responded with a phone call and subsequent emails. What I can tell you now is that the engineers had no
idea what the modifications were for. I think they do now!"

UV SUMMER?
If the dire solar radiation warnings relayed in this report are real – we've had it. The reason is because, as these revelations reiterate, "large sections of ocean are all but ignored" by chemtrail sprayers.

Which means bye-bye sunfried phytoplankton.

This may seem like no major deal. But just as microscopic microbes are making world headlines, these tiny marine critters anchor the entire marine food web – while acting as bigger CO-2 scrubbers and oxygen suppliers than all the forests ashore. We've already seen disaster around Antarctica a few years ago, where the krill die-off from solar radiation streaming through an Antarctic-wide ozone hole was followed by the starvation-extinction of entire penguin colonies, and a lot of hungry whales.

Ozone depletion is true planetary emergency. But is it dire enough to call for a continuous chemtrail screen laid down by squadrons of big jets tearing apart the ozone layer with their own emissions? (Not to mention constant missile launches.)

In 2001, alarm bells rang throughout our spaceship as a record ozone hole larger than the combined area of the United States, Canada and Mexico opened above the entire Antarctic. [USA Today 11/24/02]

But according to the WMO Antarctic Ozone Bulletin #7, issued on Nov. 14, 2002, the most recent Antarctic ozone hole has remained "well below season norms… less than half of its maximum size in late August and early September" and "the smallest in at least two decades."

USA Today explained that the smallest Antarctic ozone hole since 1988 occurred "after abnormal weather patterns in Earth's upper atmosphere interfered with the chemical reactions that break down ozone molecules in the stratosphere."

It turns out that as Earth's weather-making troposphere pumped energy into the stratosphere, the size and strength of the polar vortex was diminished - something frequently observed in the Arctic, but seldom around the South Pole.

2002's weird weather pattern appeared to be a "self-correcting" confirmation of Lovelock's "Gaia Hypothesis" of an awakening Earth's complex web of feedback interactions. But shrinking Antarctic ozone holes "should not be viewed as a long-term trend," scientists cautioned. [www.gcrio.org/ozone/unep2000summary.html]

The latest ozone hole measurements are coming from Antarctic weather stations operated by Argentina, Finland, Italy, Spain, Australia, France, Germany, Japan, New Zealand, Russia, the UK and USA – augmented by ozone data from NASA/TOMS, NOAA/TOVS, NOAA/SBUV/2 and ESA/GOME satellites.

Since 1990 WMO has arranged for the preparation of daily maps of total ozone distribution over the Northern Hemisphere during the period 1 November to 31 March.

But we are still in deep trouble. According to the WMO, recent updates on the state of the ozone over the Northern mid- to polar latitudes show "Strong ozone deficiency persists pole ward of 60N from Northern Scandinavia over the Russian Arctic and Northern Siberia."

The trend toward the natural regeneration of our spaceship's protective ozone shielding is now being reversed as stratospheric temperatures low enough for the formation of big high-altitude ice clouds of frozen CFCs are "continuing to be much below normal" according to the World Met Org.

In fact, this year's "ozone decline has accelerated" – with a 20% drop in normal ozone layer levels appearing, "for a short time, over the Canadian Arctic, and nearly continuously over Northern Siberia where, in early March, they exceeded 30%."

Multiply by two for the percentage increase in skin cancers for organisms exposed to increased UVB. That is, a 20% drop in the ozone layer = a 40% increase in skin cancer; 30% = 60%.

These are big numbers. While world attention was focused on the invasion and occupation of Iraq, an even more serious emergency was taking place overhead. At –20% and –30%, ozone depletion for the coldest February 20 to March 10, 2003 period, "stretched from Northern Scandinavia eastward over the Russian Arctic up to the river Lena in Northern Siberia. Over Europe, from Spain to Ukraine the deviations were -10 to -12%," says the WMO. Readings over North America they -6 to -10%."

Drastic. But not dire.

KILLER UV?
"Without the shield," claims this correspondent, "UV poisoning would cause great death."

Not true. Not at this time. While still a significant human health hazard, according to the WMO, this year's Ozone Mass Deficiencies are "about a fifth less than in the record setting springs of 1993,1995 or 1996." [www.wmo.ch/web/arep/gawozobull02.html]

UNEP concurs. The United Nations Environment Programme reported on the "Environmental effects of ozone depletion" in an interim update issued August 2000.
UNEP says overall ozone loss "seems to have leveled off".

But don't go cooking yourself in the sun too soon. "Due to uncertainties in instrument calibrations and natural year-to-year variability," UNEP cautions, "we cannot yet be sure whether global ozone has reached a minimum."

While atmospheric chlorine concentrations are beginning to decrease, UNEP projects "the prospects for ozone recovery remain uncertain." Part of this perplexity comes from high halogen levels in the atmosphere (even worse ozone-depleters than CFCs) – plus the likelihood of volcanic eruptions launching megatons of ozone-eating ejecta into the stratosphere as earthquake activity continues to escalate worldwide

Things won't be back to "normal" soon, if ever. "Interactions between global warming and ozone depletion could delay ozone recovery by more than a decade," UNEP says. At least one increasingly sophisticated climate model predicts differences in ozone recovery patterns, "with larger ozone depletions being expected in the Northern European sector."

Interestingly, "locations with largest ozone depletion are not necessarily those where recovery will be seen earliest," UNEP notes. "Based on statistical considerations of ozone variability, southern mid-latitudes are the first location at which ozone recovery may be detectable."

Which would seem to point to Antarctica's incredible shrinking ozone hole as part of this early recovery. Until, that is, we recall that last year's split ozone holes1 over Antarctica were caused by freakish weather conditions – not a recovering levels of stratospheric ozone.

Stay tuned. Whether or not it is the priority of some 14 nations to secretly shield their citizens and crops from fluctuating solar radiation levels, UNEP says, "Even with the expected decreases in atmospheric chlorine, it will be decades before the ozone recovery can be unambiguously identified at individual locations."

Faced with imminent curtailment of petroleum pollution and profits in the face of global climate change, the chance to cool global warming while at the same time shielding large swaths of the wealthy nations of the northern hemisphere would be compelling to an "oil president" and his corporate cabal.


GROUND LEVEL OZONE (SMOG)
This "insider" further states that "ozone at ground levels does no good" in protecting us from ultraviolet sunlight.

On the contrary, UNEP points out that "In Mexico City, poor air quality has been shown to be responsible for reductions of about 20% in skin-reddening UV in the city centre compared with the suburbs."

In Moscow, similar changes in atmospheric opacity from clouds and/or aerosol pollution "were also probably responsible for a reported gradual decrease in UV from the 1960s to the mid 1980s."

Ground-level ozone does act as a partial sunshield. Also known as smog, street-level ozone is unfortunately often lethal to individuals susceptible to industrial air pollutants in the 10-micron range, or smaller. (A human hair is 100 microns across.)

It is particularly worrying that the Hughes Patent calls for chemtrails to be sprayed at 10 microns – a size of particulate the EPA calls "an extreme health hazard". [See Chemtrails Confirmed] These microscopic irritants are the primary health hazard presented by chemtrails – along with barium toxicity and microorganisms precipitated out of the upper atmosphere and brought down into human tissues by chemtrails.

SARS and West Nile are just the beginning. UNEP predicts "changes in climate due to global warming could lead to alterations in the distribution of insects and other vectors that carry human and animal pathogens. Such alterations, combined with increased UV-B-induced immunosuppression from ozone depletion, could increase the incidence and/or severity of the diseases these pathogens induce."

Scientists also say that besides severely depressing human immunity to disease, continued UV irradiation could also render vaccines to novel pathogens ineffective.


MY CONCULSIONS
This unidentified report strongly echoes the findings and surmises presented in Chemtrails Confirmed and "Chemtrails: Mystery Lines In The Sky". So much so, it is either a strong validation or directly sourced from this book and video – as well as drawing strongly from Clifford Carnicom, Kim Weber, Columbus Alive reporter Bob Fitrakis and others who blew loud whistles on the barium component of chemtrails. [See also Earth Island Journal Summer '02 "Stolen Skies" by William Thomas]

If this report was put together from Internet sources and the work done by the researchers listed above, it does provide an accurate summary of the evidence unearthed to date.

If it is genuine, many of its remarks are corroborated by the researchers listed above, and many others who have devoted years or personal effort and expense to this investigation.


FLAWS AND RUMORS
The report's speculations, flaws and contradictions resurrect longstanding and stubborn objections without satisfactorily addressing them – including the technical and security nightmare of fitting pressurized spray-tanks to commercial airliners; an unsubstantiated two million-person cull; missing Russian chemtrails; and the impracticalities of spreading inoculants and/or biowarfare from high altitudes.

In short, every aspect of published chemtrails research and speculation is regurgitated indiscriminately in this unsigned report.

With apologies to true believers excited by these recent "revelations", whether false or genuine in its insider origins, journalists requiring documented, first-hand sources will be unable to make use of this report without independent verification of its "Deep Shield" source and citations.

While it would be deeply gratifying to claim vindication for findings first published and broadcast in Chemtrails Confirmed and "Chemtrails: Mystery Lines In The Sky", there are enough bloopers to render this report, "inconclusive". Moreover, in the absence of corroboration for some of its wilder statements, the possibly persists that this is yet another chemtrails hoax drawn from already published texts and Internet reports.

Which is too bad. The shortest route to national media exposure remains for a credible chemtrails insider to come forward with documentation and at least verify their identity confidentially with accredited reporters. If the air traffic controllers observing chemtrail-dispensing USAF tanker on their scopes would come forward as individuals or a group simply to express their concerns over particulate emissions some controllers say could be hazardous to the environment human health – this story could no longer escape exposure on the 6 o'clock news.

Until then, the work of many chemtrails investigators – and anonymous email tipsters – continues.
 

Re: CHEMICALS IN OUR AIR!!!

Response to "Feedback from an Expert"
Be careful, Concerned, there is a fine line between an expert knowing and an expert speculating. Be careful.

You say that "To date we have seen zero photographs of any type of spray apparatus on US Air Force tankers or commercial airliners"
You are mistaken, unless you have never seen a picture of the business end of a tanker. A refueling boom from a KC135 or a KC10 is a natural spray tool. For military aircraft not equipped with an in-flight refueling boom a D704 "buddy store" would be perfect. I have worked on aircraft for a great number of years in association with my work. I have worked on commercial and military aircraft: fighters, bombers, big cargo, small and tiny. Point of fact _every_ aircraft has the capability to spray fuel; every tank has a dump valve. The Navy routinely dump fuel for carrier landings. In fact a Navy aircraft loaded with JP4 from an airforce tanker will dump almost everything in preparation for a carrier landing. JP4 is not permitted ship-board; only JP5. When dumped hexane and benzene sized hydrocarbons become atomized after a drop of about 5000 feet. I know: we did the experiments.

If you remember one thing remember this: for an aircraft mechanic it is a simple task to isolate a fuel tank. Dead simple. Any aircraft can spray anything.

As for your comments regarding the anonymous I certainly fall into your category, don't I.
I would not dream of working with any "accredited reporter".
The media is part of the liberal elite wallowing in their welfare state; an accredited reporter is an oxymoron.
btw: who does the accreditation ... think about it, then worry.

My advice, certainly to myself, is to focus on the matter at hand, not politics.

Take the evidence you are presented and make your own educated conclusion, unless you think a reporter is better in the educated conclusion department than you are.

If you want me to research facts then say so.
If you don't: no problem. I will just fade away.
 

Re: CHEMICALS IN OUR AIR!!!

Scientist. Thanks for your post and your interest in the topic! Your imput is welcome. Incidentally, no one said Will Thomas was "accredited", yet he is credible, and was the first researcher to break the story, some years ago. He is not all knowing though, and the topic is ongoing, and we value imput of those who are also credible. This is an ongoing investigation, and frankly, we need all the help we can get to get to the bottom of this issue asap. It effects those on the right and the left equally. This is an equal opportunity conspiracy!

So, if you have imput that you feel is valuable, please feel free to share it. It is not a question of "if" chemtrails are real, or "if" this is a "theory" or real. We know it is real. As a matter of fact, right now, Wednesday evening at 11:30 pm, the planes are flying all over Santa Cruz county and spraying. Three hours ago the sky was full of stars. Now there are only a handfull visible from this location. Just a coincidence that the planes have been flying over the entire area, and then the stars start to dim. These unmarked white kc airforce tankers are real, and we want to know what is going on.

We welcome any honest, insightfull feedback. Please, help us uncover this mystery! Looking forward to your experience and knowledge. Thank you.
 

Re: CHEMICALS IN OUR AIR!!!

Isn't it interesting that the person promoting the chemtrail theory is also apparently selling home air purifiers.

Received this in an email from him:

>Ps. as far as taking good care of yourself is
> concerned, if you are interested in breathing
> mountain pure air in your own home, you need a
> quality purifier! I have found one that will
> deactivate all known toxins in your home. If
> you are interested go to:
> www.toolsforwellness.com search for air
> purifiers, and click on: "Aranizer". You can
> also call them at: 800-456-9887 as well, and
> ask them about it. Please mention or enter: SC
> code 8141 if you decide to order it or
> anything from this outstanding company!

Puh-lease.
 

Re: CHEMICALS IN OUR AIR!!!

fear based propaganda to sell a product...
 

Re: CHEMICALS IN OUR AIR!!!

Wow.

Just to clarify things, the Santa Cruz chemtrail folks have done their work on virtually no budget, and some have spent money they could not personally afford, in order to get the word out.

In the months that we have been working on the issue, there has not been a single product for sale.

Some people had asked for suggestions on a quality home air purifier. The one mentioned was a small P.S. to a newletter, one of about a dozen sent out over the past months. It is the first time any "product" was ever mentioned.

The few dollars that would be made from a sale of a quality air purifier (if anyone ever actually bought one) would go toward printing expenses.

No person in the group is making a dime from any of this, and never would. This is about sharing what we feel is an important and under-reported issue, with our freinds and family in Santa Cruz.

Anyone who has been an active participant in the Santa Cruz Chemtrail group can vouch for that completely.

It is natural to be distrusful these days of people's motives, so no offense is taken.

Someone may or may not feel the issue is real, or has merit, but as far as our intentions are concerned, that is very sincere, to the extreme degree.

It is, quite simply, a labor of love. Nothing more.
 

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I saw stars last night. Apparently the night-time spraying operation has been suspended days after being exposed on Indymedia!

Or maybe.... I know! There was supposed to be cloud cover last night as per the weather forecast.. but lo, there was none! Those evil military scientists must have engineered a new chemical spray that *disperses* cloud cover when released, to outsmart us all! We see a clear sky and we think there's nothing there!

My informants deep inside top-secret Pentagon research facilities warned me today that at approximately 9p tonight all our sunlight will slowly fade away and our blue sky will become black as a direct result of an evil government project to cause the Earth to turn, thus depriving us of needed sunlight to survive!

He also warned that the President is fearful we'll discover their plan too soon, so he's ordered the military to turn the planet back around at 6am and restore the sky to blue before anyone notices.

But Ive learned that there is a flaw in the government's plan. ELF has planted environmentally conscious agents in the project, who have sabotaged the software running it with a subtle bug. Watch where the sun is in the sky at 9pm when the sky goes black - when it returns to blue at 6am, the sun will suddenly appear *on the other side of the sky!* How did that happen?

No one is asking these important questions - further proof that they have us in their clutches, controlling our thoughts. How can people NOT notice the sun suddenly moving to the opposite side of the sky?

The good news is that thousands of Santa Cruzians just like yourself are waking up and getting involved. We can stop this! Just buy one of my special Micro-Cosmic Dialectric Sunomatic Anti-Spinometers for $9.95 at youvegottobekidding.com and you'll be ready to join us in exposing this evil plot!

Wake up Santa Cruz! The end is near!

Huh.. what? Iraq? 9/11? Enron? SARS? Patriot Act? Homeland Security? No no no, these are all just clever diversions to distract you from the real issues - chemtrails! Resist the propaganda - I wouldn't lie to you, I'm completely sincere! Trust me!

-Van
 

Re: CHEMICALS IN OUR AIR!!!

My earlier comment, "fear based propaganda to sell a product..." was a knee-jerk reaction to Van's post.

I don't know what to think about chemtrails.

I was in Calaveras County last weekend and saw trails coming out of a plane and heard my friend from Berkeley (in a joking tone) say, "here come the chemtrails."

I got a photo of it too, but I don't know what to think about it.

I don't really think that the SC Chemtrail people are totally full of crap (as Van appears to believe).

I guess I am waiting for some proof and better understanding of why chems would be sprayed.

What are they doing to us???

Sorry if this sounds like a lot to ask, but I just want to read a 250 word summary of what is going on and why we should care.

Thanks.

Sorry again for my last comment.

Sincerely,
Bradley
 

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I hope you guys figure this all out. But for me, I think that a more important puzzle to figure out is why Santa Cruz has to smell like a million cows taking a dump during the spring and summer. Stop the Craptrails, the real deadly scourge!!!!
 

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> I don't really think that the SC Chemtrail
> people are totally full of crap (as Van appears
> to believe).

Actually, I only think he's half full of shit. A lot of people do that - they cite real stuff going on somewhere else, to lend credibility to their own crackpot theories.

I was already familiar with the air force experiments in creating temporary conductive aerial conduits for com and/or ECM purposes over Afghanistan last year. They do it by controlled injection of special additives into the fuel supply. It's clever stuff.

Afghanistan while under attack by the US military, is an isolated high-profile incident.. a far cry from this supposed 24/7 cropdusting of little ol Santa Cruz (and by implication, most other major cities in America).

And while there may.. MAY.. be some additional relevance to HAARP, I have yet to read anything credible. Most of it is wacky nonsense by people with a very loose grip on reality. The rest is inconclusive.

I read the act of Congress banning various sci-fi weaponry when it was first passed a few years ago.. "space weapons", chemtrails, and a host of other stuff that really sounded like some Republicrat adding buzzwords to the legislature in exchange for contributions of money to his re-election fund.

Didn't mean jack. They might as well have added Godzilla and Bat Boy to the list. About the only legit things on that list are satellite-based nukes and lasers. The rest was just political fluff.

Then somehow our boy here makes an Olympic leap to declare nearly any fog bank or overcast night to be the result of what would have to be a maaaassive aerial spraying campaign.. which, coincidentally, he says has switch into stealth mode (night spraying) thanks to his diligent reportage.

Yeah, okay, sure. Waiter, reality check please.

And then the other shoe drops - we're selling the "Airanizer", which promises to "deactivate all known toxins".

Riiiight.

Let's sit him down in a (relatively) air tight room with his Air-o-matic and a garden hose running from my car's exhaust pipe and see how long he remains conscious.

I am unimpressed, to say the least.

-Van
 

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Just came back from hearing Congressman and Presidential Candidate Dennis Kucinich speak at the civic. It was awesome. At the after party at the Vet's Hall, someone asked him about the Chemtrail Operation. He was swamped with people, but I saw him look her in the eyes and he said:

"The chemtrails are real". That's all I heard. Dennis was the one that sponsored the bill in congress banning space weapons, including Chemtrails. He is hardly a "republicrat" as Van stated. Van obviously doesn't know of what he speaks of. Dennis is totally against the current regime, was the only one in Congress to vote against the war. And is totally on our side. When he said that the Chemtrail operation was real, I know it's true.
 

Re: CHEMICALS IN OUR AIR!!!

I wish the Chemtrail operation was just a crack pot theory. I would humbly apologize for wasting other peoples time, as well as my own. Unfortunately it's not only not a theory, but it is happening every day. With very rare exceptions, over the skies of Santa Cruz. We shouldn't feel special though, as the spray operation is happening all over the country, and Nato countries as well. The photographs, videos, eye witness testamonials from all kinds of people, all over the country, is far too overwhelming to cynically discount with a few cheap words like Van is trying to do.

Will Thomas is an award winning researcher with massive credentials. He is the one who originally broke the story some years ago, as well as one of the quality journalists who are uncovering the story today. You can visit his website and see for yourself the work this man has done, and decide for yourself if he is a crackpot. His website is www.lifeboatnews.com

I don't know who this person Van is who keeps making his degrading comments, but I doubt he has any credentials at all. It's easy to just spout out words and cut someone down. It's easy to make fun of someone, and try to make them look stupid. Sometimes, like now, we can make ourselves look foolish in the process. It can back fire.

Anyone who take the time to research the evidence about Chemtrails will find out, that they are very much real.

One thing though that needs to be clarified. It is not true that they stopped spraying during the day. They are spraying during the day, though, as strange as it may seem, they are hiding it more. They spray above and within the clouds, upwind, and yes, at night. Many people are aware of them, and continue to see the trails day after day. People from San Jose report the spraying is intense there as well.

On saturday there were trails all over the art and wine festival in Boulder Creek. Sunday many people saw them all over Santa Cruz.

Anyone who is denying that Chemtrails exist are falling into the mind control that the powers that be expect you to fall into. Some day (hopefully soon) people like Van will find out, through taking thoughful time to research themselves, by looking up in the sky, or somehow, that the Chemtrail opereration is true.

It's so beyond our normal thinking that something like that could be going on right under our noses, that we are conditioned to reject it. All of us are conditioned to certain parameters of reality, and when something is happening that does not fit into those parameters, we are conditioned to discount it, and to especially discount the one who brings us the news. It's easier to reject the information, than to face the fact, and have to make the stretch internally. Just cause we're hip, or aware, or politically correct, or "left", or think we know it all, or whatever does not change the fact that we are human beings. It is easy for us to display an arrogant and self ritious attitude like Van displays. It shows an immature and overly confident ego. These kind of people get humbled in time. Hopefully soon. But that's their journey. Denial is a normal thing. We all do it from time to time.

Our journey is awakening thoughtful and intelligent people in our community to something that is going on daily, in our very skies.

It is happening wheather we believe it or not. Mayor Emily Reilly is well aware of the Chemtrail operation as well, as well as other people in our local government. It is neither a joke, nor a hoax, nor a crackpot theory. Anyone who says so is either ignorant, has their own agenda to protect, or simply hasn't taken the time to review the massive amount of evidence.
 

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here is a link to a site that has local photos:

_www.skyhighway.com/~chemtrails

here is a link to a really interesting article:

www3.bc.sympatico.ca/Willthomas/Articles/Response%20To%20Deep%20Shield.html


there is also interesting information on the following sites. Just search for the chemtrail links.

_www.rense.com

_www.educate-yourself.com

_www.conspiracyplanet.com

_www.carnicom.com

and if you want to see how many people are concerned and aware of the chemtrail issue, do a search on any search engine for "chemtrails".

Of course you "can't believe everything on the internet" or anywhere else for that matter. In fact, don't "believe" anything!

but do the research yourself, and you'll find out this is far too real to dismiss.

and after you see the photos and reports from all over the place, and you start looking at your own skies, you'll understand how real this is.

It's easy to spot them, once you know what to look for. Look up. Wake up. and tell your friends. awareness is the first step.

if you do nothing else, you'll be able to count yourself in with the vastly growing number of people in the santa cruz area who are waking up from the denial. this has been going on for a while. several years or more. and we're still here to talk about it. so don't be fearful or afraid. but do be aware.

if you feel inspired write a letter to the editor or call your elected officials and ask them to investigate.

look up on virtually any day, and you'll see them. check the photos first, from all over, so you know what to look for. without a little education, one wouldn't notice.

they don't want you to notice.

they want you to just discount it, and go about your life.

they are counting on you to stay asleep.

we're counting on you to wake up.
 

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Finally home in Monterey.
Flew in to Travis on a C17 yesterday; a 16 hour ride, but at least I was up front and not in the back with the grunts and the BFVs.
Finally turned over Summit at about 7:30pm and saw a trail. Straight above the Graham Hill exit and headed straight for the sun. Spurts too ... hum, I thought, some mechanic is going to have the fun job tonight changing the nozzle. Guess the folks have been busy in your neighborhood.

I'll check back with you guys in a couple of days. Now I have to lie low and decompress.

Take Care.

btw.
Had dinner at Real Thai on Seabright across from the Harley dealer and behind Blockbuster... best damn Thai food I've had anywhere.
Better than even the places on the Quay in Singapore ... and they're pretty good.
 

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Finally home in Monterey.
Flew in to Travis on a C17 yesterday; a 16 hour ride, but at least I was up front and not in the back with the grunts and the BFVs.
Finally turned over Summit at about 7:30pm and saw a trail. Straight above the Graham Hill exit and headed straight for the sun. Spurts too ... hum, I thought, some mechanic is going to have the fun job tonight changing the nozzle. Guess the folks have been busy in your neighborhood.

I'll check back with you guys in a couple of days. Now I have to lie low and decompress.

Take Care.

btw.
Had dinner at Real Thai on Seabright across from the Harley dealer and behind Blockbuster... best damn Thai food I've had anywhere.
Better than even the places on the Quay in Singapore ... and they're pretty good.
 

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Dear chemtrail people,

Let's see...the Bush administration last week was successful in getting the House of Representatives to vote for military exemptions to the ESA and MMPA (that's Endangered Species Act and Marine Mammal Protection Act, but since you're environmentalists I probably don't have to explain that), our oceans are being blasted with LFAS (Low Frequency Active Sonar, but again, you probably know that), the U.S. and Britain just fulfilled Rumsfeld and Cheney's wet dream by taking control of Iraq whilst incidentally killing thousands of Iraqis and poisoning the land and water with yet more depleted uranium, Iran or maybe Syria is next on the list of nations to attack, our democracy is in shreds and the U.S. is now a fascist nation, human overpopulation and overconsumption are killing the Earth, since the beginning of this year billions of "farm animals" have met brutal deaths to satisfy the hunger of people who don't even realize that eating meat is toxic to themselves, the environment and just plain bad karma, people in their 30's, 40's and 50's are getting cancer in droves because petroleum-based pesticides and plastics mimic hormones in our bodies...and YOU people have the audacity to waste bandwidth on Indymedia with your endless machinations about something as imaginary as CHEMTRAILS!

I've read the links you've posted as evidence, and there is nothing credible there. I've even spoken with some of you face-to-face, and you really don't come off as people with a good grip on reality. I've lived in the Santa Cruz area for 21 years. The stars are not as bright here as they were 21 years ago, because our population has exploded. That's right, more people = more shopping malls, more cars, more development, and more lights! Duh!

Really, just because Kucinich said "chemtrails are real" and didn't say anything more than that is not proof! But you won't be convinced because you're just sure that we're being sprayed with poison from 30,000 feet above ground. I guess I just hope that you don't ever work on any real environmental issues because you don't lend the environmental movement any credibility.

And by the way, Van, you are right on the mark. You're posts cracked me up.
 

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All those issues are real. So is the Chemtrail issue. The amount of denial by some people about this daily event is mind boggling.

The Chemtrails were all over the sky of Santa Cruz today. Dozens of them. We saw the plane in action three times. Honestly folks, if you believe the disinfo folks here, just to make yourself feel better, it is only your loss.

The sky was covered with the trails today. Anyone who looked up and looked around saw them. It is no great mystery. Normal contrails do not go up and down, cross each other mid stream, and linger for hours. Many hours. Jet contrails dissolve rapidly. If you watch a normal jet plane with a contrail behind it, it will invariably start dissolving within minutes. The Chemtrails do not. They linger for hours. Then they look like clouds, as the wind currents disperse them.

Don't be fooled by the disinfo folks. The Chemtrails are real. You are breathing it every day, weather you believe it not. Just say no to being an ostrich. Especially say no to ostriches who try to make others wrong to be right. This is not about right and wrong, and every single one of the people on this line that are saying the Chemtrails are a hoax, are going to find out, in the end that they were wrong. You can be sure though, they will sputter out their intelligent sounding arguements and accusations until the very end. But they are only doing a diservice to themselves and others. This is no joke, folks. The Chemtrail operation is very real, and we are being sprayed here in Santa Cruz relentlessly. The sooner we wake up the better. Mayor Emily Reilly is now involved in the situation and will be meeting some of the Chemtrail action team folks to discuss our next step.

There are many important issues right now. Chemtrails is certainly one of them, and one that has a direct impact, DAILY on our health, and the health of our entire community.
 

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Van is neither right on nor funny. It's easy to poke fun to make yourself feel better. That doesn't make the truth go away. The researcher we are working with, Will Thomas is highly credible, has won international awards for exposing many things that the current and past administrations have done, including the depleted uranium story, and others, and is well respected.
Van is appears to be some two bit "journalist" with no credentials at all. Will Thomas has dedicated his life to educating people on issues that have not been reported in the mainstream media. He is an outstanding journalist and researcher and humanitarian. His work is known and respected by many all over. You can veiw his website and see the quality of this persons work. His sites are: www.willthomas.net and www.lifeboatnews.com

rather than spitting off more accusations, let's see some examples of the "journalism" and "research" that Van has done. Until then, it is a mute point. There is no comparison, they are not even in the same league. Frankly, it appears that Van isn't really in any league at all! Maybe the loud mouth league, or something!

You check out Will Thomas' site, research and credentials. Then we will wait here patiently for Van to show us his site, research and credentials. Then we can compare. Until the, I am going with Will Thomas who has testamony from air traffic controllers as well as much other documentation on the truth and fact of the massive Chemtrail operation. His book "Chemtrails Confirmed" is available on his site. Anyone who really want to know the truth about the Chemtrail Operation can read this book, and will have no doubt whatsoever about the reality of Chemtrails.

I and others are looking forward to Van's credentials and past work so we can see what kind of foundation his veiws are really based on. Not much i'm sure.
 

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In case anyone is interested, here are some of Will Thomas' credentials. This is the person who broke the Chemtrail story, and is working with the Santa Cruz Chemtrail Action Team. Who are you going to trust, Van shooting his mouth off with zero credibility, or Will Thomas. The choice is yours!


WHO IS WILLIAM THOMAS?
And Why Is He Saying These Things?

An independent journalist who learned his craft on the streets of Milwaukee, Chicago and Woodstock during the 'Sixties, William Thomas reported for the Environment News Service while serving as a member of a three-man Gulf Environmental Emergency Response Team during and immediately following the Gulf War.

Specializing in military affairs, health and the environment, William Thomas is an award-winning investigative journalist specializing in health, the environment and military affairs. During and immediately after the Gulf War, he served five months in Bahrain, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait as a member of a three-man environmental emergency response team.

Thomas' writing and photography have appeared in more than 50 publications in eight countries, with translations into French, Dutch and Japanese. His commentaries have appeared in The Globe and Mail, The Toronto Star, The Vancouver Sun and Times-Colonist newspapers - as well as Monday, Earth Island Journal and Ecodecision magazines. He is a frequent guest on American "talk radio," and has appeared on New Zealand and Canadian national radio and television.

His 30-minute video documentary Eco War won the 1991 US Environmental Festival award for "Best Documentary Short". Excerpts from this "front-lines" chronicle of a three-man environmental emergency response team in Kuwait aired extensively on an eight-part CBC Gulf War miniseries, and have been shown on CNN and NBC television.

William Thomas has just released his latest book dealing with events surrounding Sept.11. All Fall Down: The Politics of Terror and Mass Persuasion also looks at media manipulation. AFD ends with an uplifting chapter on how we might respond to violence and the hijacking of our personal sovereignty by corporate-governments bent on world domination. 220 pages, illustrated, plus websites and complete references.


William Thomas is the author of:

Probing The Chemtrails Conundrum (Mystery Lines In The Sky)
The War Home (The Secret Bio-War In The Gulf)
Scorched Earth: The Military’s War Against the Environment
Alt. Health: 40 Investigations Into Good Health and Long Life

His Video Documentaries include:

"Eco War"
"Waterwise"
"Land Trusts"
"Chemtrails: Mystery Lines In The Sky"

William Thomas' reporting has won:

1989 Western Canada Magazine Feature Awards
1990 Canadian Weekly Periodicals "Best Feature" award
1997 BC and Yukon Community Newspaper Award
1998 BC Outdoors Award
His Gulf war documentary, "Eco War," won the 1991 US Environmental Film Festival Award for "Best Documentary Short".
 

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If the average citizen lacks sufficient "credentials" by your standards to doubt and criticize your claims, then by the same logic the average citizen lacks the credentials to accept and agree with your claims.

So, why are you making them to average citizens? Make them to a board of "qualified" people, if it's so above all our heads that we are "unqualified" to critique it.

Oh, wait... we're only unqualified if we disagree with you. I see.

*sigh*

You can't defend your claims without resorting to avoidance techniques, trying to get yourself out of the spotlight and put it on me. No. You're the one making the wild-ass claims. If you can't stand up to criticism, that's your weakness. The burden of proof is upon you, not those who see through you.

You made the claim in a public forum. Deal with the consequences.

"Don't believe the disinfo people!", cries the source of the disinformation. Sheesh, what manipulative bullshit. Do you work for a marketing agency by day?

-Van
 

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Well, regardless where you stand on this issue, at least we can all agree that we're screwed. I mean, that much is clear. Species extinction, ozone depletion, ecological imbalance, massive pollution, dwindling water, exploding population, corporate thievery, government treachery, false democracy, encroaching police state, unsustainable culture of greed and selfishness, dwindling oil reserves, skyrocketing oil demand, teetering economic markets, nuclear proliferation, genocide, etc. At least we agree on that. This century will be the trial of humanity. The entire system of human culture and civilization is unsustainable and will collapse in a few generations. We are a parasite and soon our host will no longer sustain us. So research chemtrails if you need a distraction. I'll be over here laughing as the ship goes down.
 

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Scooter's points are well taken. We agree that over all the picture looks bleak. And all the factors that Scooter mentions are totally true. Scary in fact. Chemtrails are not a distraction though, in that context. They are even very directly effecting us. We agree on the insanity of all the factors mentioned. No doubt. So actually, while it may appear we are fighting, in the larger picture, we are not. All of us are overwhelmed by the unfortunate situation on this planet from all angles. The Chemtrail issue just happens to be one that is little known by even those who agree on virually everything else. That is one of the strange and erie aspects of it. That they have gotten away with it for these past 5 years, even from those who adamantly appose the destruction of everything we hold sacred and valuable by these corperate fascists who are running our country. Our enemy is not each other, that is for sure. Our differences in the larger picture, politically, are so very small. The current cabal's policies of destruction of all aspects of sanity both in regard to foreign policy, environment, health care, domestic "security" and everything else we are in total agreement with.

The Chemtrail Operation is a covert operation. These sickos are very good at doing covert operations. They have had lot's of practice over many years, as we all know.

The things that we DO know that they have done, are frightening and insane. They demonstrate an agenda that is the definition of evil. So many of their "operations" we do not even find out about for years, sometimes decades. By that time we are distracted with the current drama or nightmare, whatever that may be, and those past things are delegated to the realm of history. They hide all kinds of shit from us. I can't even imagine what they have done, or are doing right now that we don't even know about. What we do know about is frightening enough. But we know there is more.
Not that we need it to be clear on how we feel about these "leaders" or where we wish we could send them. We already have enough information to know, individually within ourselves, how we feel about the way they are taking this beautiful planet.

The Chemtrail Operation is one of the black opps. And it is a massive one. Sometimes something is so big, so much in front of our face, that we don't even see it. The Chemtrail operation is like that.

Honestly, if it were just a few fringy folks talking about this chemtrail thing, it wouldn't be worth the ink on this screen (so to speak), or the "bandwidth" as a previous poster said. Agreed.

And with a black, covert opp. where they are hiding and denying it's existance, it makes it all the harder.

So, for a moment, let's put down our fighting spirit, and our need to be right, and make the other wrong, and whatever else may be comming up for us individually on the Chemtrail issue, and consider this:

There is just far too much evidence from all over the country to dismiss this. Way too much. It's easy to want to put each other down, and call each other names, and so on. That's really kid's stuff, and doesn't get us very far.

So, here's the challange for the thoughtfull reader, including Van, and any others who still don't believe that the Chemtrail issue has merit.

We have a website. It is pretty simple right now, with not much bells and whistles etc. but it's got some interesting stuff on it. One of the things that was recently put up are direct links to several other sites. There are various theories on these sites, and even a very questionable (to say the least, wanting to get this out of the way now) link to a "cloud buster" or something. We do not buy all of the ideas, theories etc presented, but there is so much testamonial from so many places, and so many people, over several years, that it is just not fair or possible to blow it off.

We may all be a little "fringy" in the public eye here in Santa Cruz, from the perspective of the rest of the country. We're known for it! And that's why were here. Cause we're a little different! That's a good thing, and that's why we love Santa Cruz. We love being different, and I'll bet we all agree on that.

So let's step out of Santa Cruz, for a journey into the hearts and minds of many many people from all over the "rest" of the country who have something to say about chemtrails.

Go to our simple site: www.skyhighway.com/~chemtrails
and start out veiwing the photos that some of our members have taken over the recent weeks. Just to get a glimpse of what is happening in our own skies.

Then, at the bottom are several links to some other sites. The rense site and others have tons of imformation from all over.

Use your intelligence here. And, hopefully we've agreed to put on hold for a time our bickering mentality, and really see, what is going on here.

Are ALL these people just "crackpots"? Are all these photos bogus? Are all the testamonials and the vast amount of information that is shared all total crap? Is it just a cooincidene that the trails and the planes and the patterns and the health effects and the concern that is happening all over the place is so similar?

Just sit with it. Don't knee jerk respond to this post, just this once. Really check the links.
Take a deep breath, and let the childish fighting mode go for just a little. We can always come back to it later!

Anyone reading this is invited onto this process.

_www.skyhighway.com/~chemtrails

take the time. go through the links. some of it will be absurd, some far out, some whatever, but over all my hypothesis is that there is far too much evidence to call this a hoax.

I'll leave it at that for now.

We have a common enemy, and it is NOT each other.

Let's now give a thoughful and thorough check in to the volume of information that is presented.

Thank you for you time.
 

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hey chemtrails people, why are you demeaning ostriches! ostriches are cool! you are speciesist when you call people who don't agree with you ostriches!
 

It's happening all over!

Here is a letter that Will Thomas recently recieved from someone in SanFransisco. We're not the only ones getting sprayed!

Hi Will,

Thank you very much for your follow-up email. I have already received your
book so there is no need to send another copy.

Congratulations on your amazing research! Great work all around.

I have already read it and I have to say I was stunned to learn that this
has been going on for so long and to such an extent in so many parts of the
world. You may be interested to learn that I have been observing the
typical trail formations in the sky over San Francisco for the last four
months. They spray on average 3 to 5 days a week here. Lately, both me and
my wife have been waking up at the same time around 2:00 am in the morning
hearing multiple jets flying over our city. There is typically not much
commercail air traffic at that time of the day and no active Air Force base
or Navy Air station nearby. Ten days ago they turned the sky into a
complete white milky "soup". The difference is noticeable because San
Francisco has typically beautiful spring weather with clear blue skies, no
humidity, and no haze. However, lately, I have been noticing those cirrus
clouds expanding in the sky all too often. There is also a lot of "static"
in the air. I have heard this complaint from my neighbors too. Strange
things are happening with our weather.
 

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Hey SF chemtrail guy...you say that SF in the springtime typically has clear blue skies. Which SF is this? The one I know is socked in with fog much of the time. Maybe you're mistaking fog for chemtrails.
 

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Bummer man.....What are we fighting for if it's all gonna be over anyway.....Our Souls I guess.....
 

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I find it odd that all these idiots who say these chemtrails are to save the planet and reduce globalwarming have forgotten the fact that each 747 take off is equal to 2 million lawnmowers running for 20 minuites.Thats just the take off.Everyone who lives around chicago O hara airport are starting to report cancer.And this is just from normal exhaust.These planes heat up the atmospere and pollute it like the worlds never sseen.And people are worried about hair spray.Check out endtimesevents.com/CHEMTRAILS.html
 

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When is the next meeting with the mayor about this? I have been looking for a meeting to share my video footage of the spraying I have captured. I had no idea what they were when I filmed them. I also filmed something hovering on a mountain, it is very clear what it is doing.
 

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The Santa Barbara cloud seeding project in Coastal Southern California, USA [PDF/Adobe Acrobat] The Santa Barbara Cloud Seeding Project in Coastal Southern California, USA. Operations and Research Spanning more than 50 years. Don A. Griffith, Mark E. Solak, North American Weather Consultants, Inc., 8160 So. Highland Dr., Ste. ... Abstract: The Santa Barbara precipitation enhancement project in coastal southern California is a ... www.nawcinc.com/SB%20Cloud%20Seeding%20Summary%202003.pdf http://www.nawcinc.com/SB%20Cloud%20Seeding%20Summary%202003.doc [Microsoft Word] The Santa Barbara Cloud Seeding Project in Coastal Southern California, USA. Operations and Research Spanning more than 50 years. Don A. Griffith, Mark E. Solak, North American Weather Consultants, Inc., 8160 So. Highland Dr., Ste. ... Abstract: The Santa Barbara precipitation enhancement project in coastal southern California is a ... www.nawcinc.com/SB%20Cloud%20Seeding%20Summary%202003.doc Big Bear Grizzly, Big Bear Lake, California, News and Classifieds ... San Diego, Los Angeles and Santa Barbara have all been involved with cloud seeding, Henderson said. ... District planned a cloud seeding project targeting the upper Santa Ana River and ... www.bigbeargrizzly.net/articles/2004/02/25/news/cloudseeding.txt
 

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who is Sondra Tiffany Brendt,
do you know her e mail ,can I have it ???????????
 

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