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Zionism, Nazism, and Radical Islam -A History Lesson For Becky Johnson

There are few people that are so vocal and so misinformed on a subject than our local Becky Johnson is on Israel. The following is an in depth response to her endless stream of misinformation.
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Steve,

In your letter to Sen. Kline you wrote:
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"...and that there will not be peace for either the Palestinian or the Hebrew speaking population until the Israeli state is abolished and in its place a democratic secular Palestine is built with a separation of church and state where the civil rights of all nationalities are guaranteed."

I am appalled that you are advocating the destruction of the Jewish State of Israel. This is a horrendous idea which I'm sure, the Nazi party would have applauded.

You are misguided if you think that a secular democratic state with civil rights will replace Israel.
Can you give me a single example of an Arab/Muslim country that is a secular democracy with separation of church and state and where civil rights of all nationalities are guaranteed?

No!! Yet you advocate dismantling a country that does allow religious freedom, civil rights for all of its population whether they are citizens or not, women's rights, gay rights, a representative democracy with regular elections.

You advocate stopping US aid to Israel, but you still have not answered whether you also advocate breaking the peace treaty Israel has with Egypt to do this.

What is your agenda? Do you want peace in the mideast for Jews and Palestinians? Or do you want to eliminate the Jewish people like the Nazis tried to do in Germany in World War II? I assume you don't mean the latter, but the policies you are pushing for just might have that effect. Get a clue!!

--- Becky Johnson


Dear Becky Johnson,

Your ideas and ignorance are one hundred percent racist. The idea that Arabs and Muslims can’t run their own countries in a pluralistic manner where the rights of Jews, Christians, and others are respected flies in the face of history.

While Europe was suffering under the theocratic tyranny of Christianity during the dark ages; science and freedom of religion were flourishing in the Arab world. The idea that the conquering colonial Zionists from Europe and the U.S. who do not even pretend to give equal rights to the original inhabitants of the land are somehow more enlightened when it comes to civil rights, smacks of the most ugly kind of racism.

No, the bloody Christian crusades of old did not bring enlightenment, nor does the propping up of the theocratic and racist Zionist state with massive support from U.S. imperialism. To the contrary, Israel’s wars against the Palestinian, Lebanese, Syrian, and Egyptian people are, and have been, some of the biggest atrocities taking place in the Mideast.

I am an ardent opponent of anti-Semitism. In doing so I recognize that the atrocities of Zionism and U.S. imperialism are today the single largest promoter of anti-Semitism in the world, just as the crimes of U.S. imperialism are the biggest promoter of terrorist attacks against American civilians. When the victims of Zionism and U.S. imperialism lash out at the wrong enemy, this should not cause us to unite behind those whose injustice caused people to lash out in the first place.

This is what you are doing Becky, and you are doing it in the same racist manner as the murderous Israeli state, arguing that Arabs are not fit to rule and blaming Palestinians as a whole for attacks on civilians. In addition you do not differentiate between the brutal racist terror of the Israeli occupation army and the right of the Palestinian people to defend themselves from that terror with whatever meager arms they can gather.

The Palestinian people; walled off, denied basic human rights, starved, tortured, and facing mass murder; face the same situation as Jews did in the ghettos of Europe under the Third Reich, minus the gas chambers and crematoria that came later. The Zionist government instead prefers to drive the majority of Palestinians from their homeland through violence and never allow them the right to return while allowing Jews from everywhere to immigrate.

Becky, you as a Zionist have no right to mention the holocaust of the Third Reich, not just because Zionism is very similar to Nazism, but because the Zionist movement supported Hitler. (For documentation of these facts see the following response to another Becky Johnson letter.) Had the Zionist movement not lobbied the British and U.S. governments against the immigration of Jews so that they would be forced to go to Palestine, had they not kept quiet on the Third Reich’s atrocities when they knew full well what was going on, had they not opposed the bombing of the gas chambers and crematoria that could have stopped the death factories, and had they not given overt support to Hitler, many more Jews would have survived the holocaust of the Third Reich.

Racist Israel would not exist without U.S. support. Likewise the most oppressive and anti-worker Arab regimes of the region are propped up, and in many cases were put in power by, U.S., French, and British imperialism. To blame the Arab people for the governments imposed on them by imperialism is like blaming slaves for their brutal masters.

You speak of women’s rights in Near East countries. The 1978 Afghani revolution led by the PDPA was made primarily to promote women’s rights. Yet U.S. imperialism supplied billions of dollars in military aid to the misogynists of the Mujahideen and recruited 100,000 foreign religious fanatics to destroy that revolution. Besides death and destruction, the offspring of this U.S. crime against humanity was the clerical fascist regime of the Taliban. Now the U.S. has put the other warring factions of the misogynist Mujahideen back in power and as a result the horrible conditions caused by U.S. intervention persist.

Likewise, the capitalist counter-revolution that took place in the former Soviet Union has eroded the advanced state of women’s rights as well as healthcare, employment, and education that had been achieved in its Near East Republics during the Soviet era.

A similar situation is now faced by the women of Iraq that had gained an advanced status of equality under the secular Ba’ath regime. Women’s rights will surely suffer under a government made up of CIA stooges from the Iraqi National Congress and bought off Shi’ite and Kurdish leaders.

The fact that women’s rights advanced under Saddam Hussein is largely a result of the working class influence of the Iraqi Communist Party and its advocacy of a secular state. Just as the U.S. supported the Ba’ath Party when it was murdering Communists and union leaders, in fact supplying lists through the CIA, today the U.S. government militarily supports the repressive imperialist imposed Arab monarchies in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait who guarantee the profits of U.S. oil monopolies while their people live in poverty and women live as slaves.

Yes, I do advocate the total destruction and elimination of the Jewish State, just as I advocate the destruction of all Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, and Hindu governments. The American, French, and Russian revolutions were major advances in many ways, including the fact that they were decisive blows for the separation of church and state. Likewise the Chinese revolution ended feudal slavery in many forms. This included the Buddhist theocracy that enslaved the people of Tibet. That theocratic government declared that their peasant slaves, slaves who faced extreme exploitation, hunger, and torture under their rulers “enlightened� hands, were only paying for the bad karma of other lives and may be born in a better position in another life.

Likewise, in Palestine the Zionist state of Israel promotes the idea that it is written in biblical texts that Israel belongs to them. This fanatical and intolerant religious view is one of the excuses used deny the country’s original inhabitants their basic human rights, to murder them, and drive these Palestinian people from their homes.

Similarly the rightwing and pro-imperialist Hindu government of India organizes pogroms against Muslims as a tactic in keeping the working class and peasantry from uniting amongst them-selves to defeat the Indian capitalists and their government.

In Europe in the last century, the Jews became a target of violence by the ruling capitalists who saw in the large oppressed Jewish population a hotbed of socialist revolutionaries and a convenient scapegoat for the ills of capitalism.

Just as capitalist governments promote religion as a way to blind and opiate the people with lies, they also promote religious and ethnic divisions as a way to prevent the unity of those who may unite against them. Yet, against all odds, unite we must in order to achieve progress.

In 1945 Tito united the various ethnicities of Yugoslavia in a socialist revolution (all be it deformed by the Stalinist model) that threw the Nazi’s out of their country and ended ethnic conflict for many years. Likewise the socialist revolution that brings about a united democratic secular Palestine will have to unite Hebrew and Arabic speakers for the overthrow of the racist Zionist government of Israel and the overthrow of the repressive monarchy of Jordan. Such a revolution would be a major step towards breaking the back of U.S. imperialism in the Near East.

Becky you say to me, “You advocate stopping US aid to Israel, but you still have not answered whether you also advocate breaking the Peace treaty Israel has with Egypt to do this.� I do not control what treaties Israel will and will not break. Israel and Egypt are a boon for the U.S. war industry. While the U.S. arms the repressive governments of Israel and Egypt in the billions of dollars at U.S. taxpayer expense, this policy does nothing to promote peace. Nor is it meant to. Ending U.S. military funding for repressive capitalist governments around the world through socialist revolution in the United States is a cause to which I am dedicated.

As such, my voice is part of a rising chorus that says the racist violence, exploitation, and oppression against the Palestinian people must stop. We want to stop paying for it with our tax dollars, we want to stop paying for it with blood.

There were Trotskyists in the United States in the 1930s and 40s that stood alone against the Democrats, Republicans, Zionists, Communist Party USA, the American Nazi Party, and the fascist Silver Shirts in calling for letting Jewish refugees into the United States. I stand in that tradition, a tradition that organized the fight against the American Nazi Party in the Streets of New York, physically prevented the organization of the Silver Shirt fascists in Minneapolis, and organized workers in combative unions that won real gains through struggle with militant opposition to the bosses and their two parties (Democrats and Republicans). They did not cower in face of police violence and the false promises of Roosevelt or the Zionists. They did not beg for political rights and other gains for workers and the unemployed. Instead they told the truth. Becky Johnson, you could learn something from these revolutionary traditions rather than support a movement that causes so much pain and death for Palestinians and helped to murder over 6 million Jews with its support for Hitler.



Sincerely, Steve Argue


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Dear Steve Argue,

You have to go back and read your history books. Palestine was the name the
British gave to the mandate they took over (in typical British imperial fashion) from the crumbling Ottoman Empire. Palestinians at the time included everyone who lived there, including the Jews. Palestine ceased to exist when Israel was formed in 1948. The plan from the UN was to have the state of Palestine right next to Israel. But all the Arab neighbors (and the Arab population within the borders of the new state of Israel) rejected this two state solution and responded by out and out war waged on the Israelis.

The Palestinians (Arabs who live or lived within the boundaries of Israel) didn't even start to call themselves that until 1968--- twenty years after the establishment of Israel. Basically the concept of Palestine is a manufactured one to drum up support for these Arabs and to decrease support for Israel by the claim that Israel is on THEIR land.

Remember, the Arabs and Muslims who did not flee in 1948, but stayed in Israel have full citizenship, have freedom to practice their religion, own property, vote, have representation in the Knesset, and compose 18% of the population.

There is no Palestine. And there never was except as a British invention.

---Becky Johnson

Steve Argue responds:

Actually history is one of my strong points. You state that I need to consult my history books, yet you make statements that are inarguably historically incorrect. Palestine was in existence as a recognized territory of the Ottoman Empire long before British control and even before the beginnings of Jewish colonization by the Zionist movement.

These inhabitants of the region also had Arab nationalist sentiments that opposed the control of the Ottoman Empire before the creation of the Zionist State and have since opposed many of the U.S., French, and British imposed kings, crown princes, emirs, sheiks, etc. that Zionists like to claim represent the aspirations of the Arab people.

Your attempt to deny a people of even the name of their homeland is consistent with an ideology that denies an entire people of the right to their homeland. The fact that bloody repression and horrible discrimination has driven the majority of Palestinians from large parts of their homeland without the right of return is not enough. The Zionist movement wants to wipe away the rightful name of the land they have conquered by re-writing history and denying there ever was a Palestine.

From its beginnings in the eighteen hundreds the Zionist movement had little concern for the Arab inhabitants of the Palestinian land they would settle. Instead they appealed to imperialist powers as potential allies against the Arab people in setting up their Zionist state. For example Zionist leader T. Herzl stated around 1897: “If his majesty the Sultan were to give us Palestine, we could undertake to regulate Turkey’s finances. For Europe, we would constitute a bulwark against Asia down there; we would be the advance post of civilization against barbarism. As a neutral state, we would remain in constant touch with all of Europe, which would guarantee our existence� (from Rodinson, “Israel a Colonial Settler State?�).

By being neutral Herzl is obviously referring to the Zionist dealings with powers of Europe and not to the colonial “barbarians� already in and around the land he would settle and conquer.

An Arab leader in Jerusalem named Nassif Bey al-Khalidi who tried unsuccessfully to work out an agreement between Arabs and the Zionist movement warned the Zionists with the following statement, “Be very careful, Messieurs Zionists, governments disappear, but peoples remain. The Jewish immigrants came to Palestine believing it to be a desolate, sparsely inhabited country. They were too busy with their own business and too ignorant of Arabic to notice what was going on around them. Since it was the Turks who ruled Palestine, they turned all their attention toward the Turks. This did not make them popular with the Arabs� (from Neville Mandel, “Chapters of Arab-Jewish Diplomacy 1918-1922�).

The Jewish immigrants never became integrated in any way with the native Arab population. This was true economically, politically, socially, and linguistically. These Jewish immigrants were so separate from the Palestinian people that they were only Palestinian to the extent that they were physically living in Palestine.

It took the weakening of the Sultan during the First World War for Europe (specifically England) to move in and grant the colonial framework for Jewish colonization that aimed itself at the goal of an exclusively Jewish state. This framework was set forth in a British political charter in November 1917 called the Balfour Declaration which stated, “His Majesty’s government views with favor the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people.�

Within this framework an exclusive Jewish state was the stated goal of all but a small minority in the Zionist movement, a goal that obviously would be at the expense of the Arab people already living in Palestine. In order to placate the Palestinians, however, the Balfour declaration stated, “it should be clearly understood that nothing should be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of the non-Jewish communities in Palestine.�

While Britain was trying to placate the Arabs Zionist leader Jabotinsky was very clear on Zionist intentions stating in 1923 in his Book the “Iron Wall�, “There can be no discussion of voluntary reconciliation between us and the Arabs, not now, and not in the foreseeable future. All well meaning people, with the exception of those blind from birth, understood long ago the complete impossibility of arriving at a voluntary agreement with the Arabs of Palestine for the transformation of Palestine from an Arab country to a country with a Jewish majority. Each of you has some understanding of the history of colonization. Try to find even one example when the colonization took place with the agreement of the native population.�

In understanding the existence of a Palestinian people and the struggles yet to come Jabotinsky went on to state, “They have the precise psychology we have. They look upon Palestine with the same instinctive love and fervor that any Aztec looked upon his Mexico or any Sioux upon his prairie. Each people will struggle against colonizers until the last spark of hope that they can avoid the dangers of conquest and colonization is extinguished. The Palestinians will struggle in this way until there is hardly a spark of hope.�

Jabotinsky’s view, and the policy that would later be carried out against the Palestinians could not be made any clearer than his following statement from the same writing: “We can not give any compensation for Palestine, neither to the Palestinians nor to the other Arabs. Therefore a voluntary agreement is inconceivable. All colonization, even the most restricted, must continue in defiance of the native population. Therefore it can continue and develop only under the shield of force which comprises an Iron Wall through which the Arab population can never break through. This is our Arab policy. To formulate it any other way would be hypocrisy.�

In explaining the differences between Zionist factions in dealing with the Palestinians Jabotinsky stated, “Force must play its role – with strength and without indulgence. In this, in this there are no differences between our militarists and our vegetarians. One prefers an Iron Wall of Jewish bayonets; the other prefers an Iron Wall of English bayonets.�

On these issues Rabbi Judas L. Magnes, President of the Hebrew University Jerusalem wrote, “by definition a Jewish state means that Jews will govern other people, other people who live in this Jewish state…Jabotinsky knew this long ago. He was the prophet of the Jewish state...In his early writings he said: ‘Has a people ever been known to give up its territory of its own volition? Likewise, the Arabs of Palestine will not renounce their sovereignty without violence.’�

On the morals of Jabotinsky’s plans and his desire to extinguish all hopes of the Palestinian people he is as clear in the “Iron Wall� as Hitler is of his intentions in “Mein Kampf� with Jabotinsky stating: “To the hackneyed reproach that this point of view is unethical, I answer ‘absolutely untrue.’ This is our ethic. There is no other ethic. As long as there is the faintest hope for the Arabs to impede us they will not sell these hopes – not for any sweet word nor for any tasty morsel, because this is not a rabble but a people, a living people. And no people makes such enormous concessions on such fateful questions, except when there is no hope left, until we have removed every opening visible in the Iron Wall.�

In 1940 Jabotinsky states in “The Jewish War Front�: “Since we have the moral authority for calmly envisaging the exodus of the Arabs, we need not regard the possible departure of 900,000 with dismay. Herr Hitler has recently been enhancing the popularity of population transfer.�

While the Arabs of Palestine were extremely tolerant of the Zionists who were moving in to take their land and their hopes the Zionist movement was never interested in forming any sort of alliance with the Arab people. Instead the Zionist movement from its inception was openly anti-Arab and pro-imperialist, even though those same imperial powers were the same ones who were carrying out pogroms against the Jews in the ghettos across Europe. This pro-imperialist policy included close relations with the pogromist leaders of anti-Semitic Czarist Russia who murdered tens of thousands of Jews, and later Zionist support and deals that aided the fascist death camps of Nazi Germany.
Jews, in fact, are victims of Zionism along side Arabs. From the beginning of Hitler’s seizure of power in 1933 the Zionist movement lent their support to the Nazis, support which lasted until at least 1944 when they aided Hitler’s “final solution� in Hungary killing 800,000 Jews. On the surface the idea of Zionist relations with the Nazis may sound illogical and seem made up. Those relations, however, are well documented.

Hitler seized power in 1933 with a clear fascistic program that called for the annihilation of all socialists, communists, labor leaders, and Jews. Despite this fact the Zionist Federation of Germany sent the Nazi Party a memorandum on June 21, 1933 stating: “…a rebirth of national life such as is occurring in German life … must also take place in the Jewish national group. On the foundation of the new [Nazi] state, which has established itself on the principle of race, we wish to fit our community into the total structure so that for us, too, in the sphere assigned to us, fruitful activity for the Fatherland is possible….� (Brenner, Zionism, pg. 48).

The policy of supporting Hitler was later upheld at the World Zionist Organization Congress in 1933 where a motion to take action against Hitler was defeated 240 to 43. Thus the Jewish boycott of the German economy at a time of economic weakness and vulnerability was broken with the World Zionist Organization’s Anglo Palestine Bank resuming trade. In fact the World Zionist Organization became the principal distributors of Nazi goods in Northern Europe and the Middle East.

Feivel Polkes was a member of Zionist leader Jabotinsky’s Haganah militia. He was sent by Jabotinsky to Berlin to inform Nazi leader Adolf Eichman of his intention to spy for the S.S. in exchange for the release of the money of German Jews for use on the Zionist project. Zionist Feivel told Nazi Eichman, “Jewish Nationalist Circles are very pleased with the radical German policy, since the strength of the Jewish population in Palestine would be so far increased thereby that in the foreseeable future the Jews would reckon upon numerical superiority over the Arabs� (from Brenner, “Zionism� pg. 99).

Joseph Goebbels, Hitler’s minister of propaganda, felt so fond of the Zionist movement and their close working relations that he wrote a 12 part report in Der Angriff (The Assault) praising the Zionist movement and ordered a medallion struck with a swastika on one side and the Zionist Star of David on the other.

Collaboration included an agreement in Hungary between Zionist agent Dr. Rudolph Kastner and Nazi leader Adolph Eichman. Under the 1944 agreement the Nazis would murder 800,000 Hungarian Jews without Zionist interference and with complete silence from the Zionist movement. In exchange 600 prominent Jews would be freed from Hungary. The Nazis then opened up a Rescue Department in Hungary headed by Kastner. These facts were exposed by a survivor named Malchiel Greenwald who was subsequently sued by the Israeli government, sued by the same leaders that had fashioned the deal made by Kastner in the first place.

Kastner’s collaboration with the Nazis was confirmed with the Israeli court stating, “The sacrifice of the majority of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents was the basic element in the agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of the nation into two unequal camps, a small fragment of prominents, whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the majority of Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand.� (Judgment given on June 22, 1955, Protocol of Criminal Case 124/53 in District Court, Jerusalem)

The Zionists subsequently ignored a plan drawn up by the resistance that could have saved many, if not most, of Hungary’s Jews. The Zionist silence and lack of action against Nazi atrocities in fact characterizes their stance throughout the entire holocaust. A plan complete with maps was drawn up that would blow-up railroad tracks to the death camps and crematoria and airdropped ammunition to the 80,000 Jews in Auschwitz. Part of the plan also included the parachuting of saboteurs to blow up the Auschwitz facility that was murdering 13,000 people a day. Had the Zionist movement not been so intent on fighting the Arabs rather than the real anti-Semite butchers of Europe they could have gathered the resources to carry out such operations. Likewise Great Britain and the United States could have carried out the proposed measures as well, but chose not to save the Jews and felt no pressure from the silent Zionist movement to do so.

This caused Rabbi Weismandel who had drawn up the plans against Auschwitz to ask of the Zionists in July 1944, “this special message to inform you that yesterday the Germans began deportations of Jews from Hungary. … The deported ones go to Auschwitz to be put to death by cyanide gas. This is the schedule, of Auschwitz from yesterday to the end: Twelve thousand Jews – men, women and children, old men, infants, healthy and sick ones, are to be suffocated daily. And you, our brothers in Palestine, in all the countries of freedom, and you ministers of all the Kingdoms, how do you keep silent in the face of this great murder. Silent while thousands upon thousands, reaching now to six million Jews, are murdered? And silent now, while tens of thousands are still being murdered or waiting to be murdered? Their destroyed hearts cry out to you for help as they bewail your cruelty. Brutal, you are and murderers, too, you are, because of the cold bloodedness of the silence in which you watch, because you sit with folded arms and do nothing, although you could stop or delay the murder of Jews at this very hour. You, our brothers, sons of Israel, are you insane?� (From Schoenman, “The Hidden History of Zionism?�)

The Zionists also fought against the immigration of Jews to other countries where they could escape extermination. Explaining their policy of pressuring Great Britain and the United States not to adopt immigration policies that would have saved the lives of Jews Zionist leader Ben Gurion stated in 1938: “If I knew that it would be possible to save all the children in Germany by bringing them over to England and only half of them by transporting them to Eretz Israel, then I would opt for the second option� (from Brenner, “Zionism�, pg. 149).

The ability of the Zionist movement to sacrifice the lives of millions of Jews for the settling of Palestine had a consistent inner logic. That logic speaks volumes. While some of the first victims of these Zionist madmen were the Jewish people, the Palestinians were next. And today the continued Zionist mistreatment of the Palestinian people is one of the biggest threats to the lives of Jewish people because some of the Arab victims of Zionism now do not differentiate between the crimes of Zionism and the Jewish people. In addition the Israeli government aided in the formation of the anti-Semitic organization Hamas and today uses their suicide bombings against civilians as a way to gain sympathy and support in the Zionist war against the Palestinian people (more on this later). Objectively the Zionist capitalist state is, in fact, the common enemy of both Jews and Arabs.

In the 1940s Jews were only one third of the population of Palestine. The Arab majority had not yet been driven from their land. The British, in considering their entire imperial interests in the Middle East and their need for good relations with Arabs had backtracked from their original support of a Jewish state in Palestine. Thus the Zionist minority carried out a war of independence against Britain in order to set up the Jewish state. The Palestinian people, the majority of the population, were not consulted by the Zionists on what kind of future they would like to have for their homeland and had little involvement in the war although a few did side with British forces.

After independence from the Britain in 1948 the Zionist state began a massive expropriation of Palestinian land that has not ended. Becky Johnson’s claim that, “the Arabs and Muslims who did not flee in 1948, but stayed in Israel have full citizenship, have freedom to practice their religion, own property, vote, have representation in the Knesset, and compose 18% of the population� is so utterly untrue as to defy common sense. Besides defying the facts, which we shall establish, I ask why most of an entire people would voluntarily flee the land in which they had built flourishing towns, a rich agriculture, and a vibrant cultural life with nowhere else to go? The short answer is that they did not flee voluntarily. They had met the “Jewish bayonets� of Zionist Jabotinsky’s “Iron Wall�. To deny this fact comes in on the same level as those who deny the Holocaust of Europe.

The humiliating conditions of the Palestinian people were recently observed by former anti-Apartheid fighter Archbishop Desmond Tutu who wrote: “I have been very deeply distressed by my visit to the Holy Land; it reminded me so much of what happened to us black people in South Africa. I have seen the humiliation of Palestinians at checkpoints and roadblocks, suffering like us when young police officers prevented us from moving about.

“On my visit to the Holy Land I drove to a church with the Anglican bishop in Jerusalem. I could hear tears in his voice as he pointed to Jewish settlements. I thought of the desire of Israelis for security. But what of the Palestinians who have lost their land and homes?

“I have experienced Palestinians pointing to what were their homes, now occupied by Jewish Israelis. I was walking with Canon Naim Ateek (the head of the Sabeel Ecumenical Centre) in Jerusalem. He pointed and said: ‘Our home was over there. We were driven out of our home; it is now occupied by Israeli Jews.’

“My heart aches. I say why are our memories so short. Have our Jewish sisters and brothers forgotten their humiliation? Have they forgotten the collective punishment, the home demolitions, in their own history so soon?�

Although the Israeli government claims that Palestinians have the right to own property, this is a lie. Ever since 1948 Palestinians in Israel do not have the right to own land, because their land is often confiscated by force for Hebrew settlement and agriculture. Water rights have been systematically cut off and diverted away from Palestinian lands and given to stolen Hebrew owned lands. Palestinian laborers are then denied by law the right to work the Hebrew owned agricultural lands, although they are sometimes illegally employed as cheap labor with no labor rights.

Palestinians do not have the right to freely travel. Reminiscent of chattel slavery, Palestinian families are often separated by Israeli officials who commonly do not grant necessary permits for Palestinians to enter neighborhoods or towns where wives, husbands, or children live. In contrast the Hebrew population has full rights to travel.

Palestinians often do not have the right to keep their own homes, which are often confiscated or bulldozed. The bulldozing of houses is a common punishment of families whose children are accused of throwing stones at Israeli soldiers. Recently in Jenin houses were bulldozed with people inside, an act that besides killing people also made an estimated 4,000 people homeless.

Palestinians do not have the right to freedom of speech and regularly face arrest, torture, and execution for their political views. Even Hebrew speakers who support rights for Palestinians or an end to Israeli wars have, at times, had their press shut down by the Israeli government or had their demonstrations attacked and beaten by Israeli soldiers.

Palestinians do not have the same right to an education as Hebrew speaking people based on the fact that higher education is paid for through the forced military inscription of Hebrew speakers while Palestinians are excluded from the military. It would in fact make no sense for the Zionists to allow Palestinians into their military since military humiliation, brutality, and outright terror against Palestinians is a part of every day duty for an Israeli soldier. Likewise few blacks served in the Apartheid military of South Africa.

Those Palestinians that are then driven out of what was once Palestine usually are not allowed to return, while Jews who have never set foot in Israel are granted automatic citizenship (with the exception of two Jewish supporters of Palestinians named Ralph Shoenman and Mya Shone who have the honor of not being allowed into Israel because of their writings). Those Palestinians that are forced from Israel are often bombed by Israel in their refugee camps or massacred in other ways. In the 1982 case of the Sabra and Chatila refugee camps in Lebanon, Palestinians were rounded up and systematically slaughtered in the thousands by Israeli troops and their Phalangist Militia allies.

As survivor Mrs. Sersawi testified in a Belgium appeals court on the Israeli governments war crimes, “The Lebanese forces militia [Phalangists] had taken us from our homes and marched us up to the entrance of the camp where a large hole had been dug in the earth. The men were told to get into it. Then the militiamen shot a Palestinian. The women and children climbed over bodies to get to this spot, but we were truly shocked by seeing this man killed in front of us and there was a roar of shouting and screams from the women. That’s when we heard the Israelis on a loudspeaker shouting, ‘give us your men.’ We thought, ‘thank God, they will save us.’

“We were told to walk up the road to the Kuwaiti Embassy, the women and children in front, the men behind. We had been separated. There were Phalangist Militiamen and Israeli soldiers walking alongside us. I could still see Hassan (her husband with whom she was 3 months pregnant) and Faraj (her brother-in-law). It was like a parade. There were several hundred of us. When we got to Cite Sportif, the Israelis put us women in a big concrete room and the men were taken to another side of the stadium. There were a lot of men from the camp and I could no longer see my husband. The Israelis went around saying ‘Sit, sit.’ It was 11 AM. An hour later we were told to leave. But we stood outside amid the Israeli soldiers, waiting for our men.

“Some men came out, none of them younger than 40, and they told us to be patient, that hundreds of men were still inside. Then about 4 PM an Israeli officer came out. He was wearing dark glasses and said in Arabic: ‘What are you waiting for?’ He said there was nobody left, that everyone had gone. There were Israeli trucks moving out with tarpaulin over them. We couldn’t see inside. And there were jeeps and tanks and a bulldozer making a lot of noise. We stayed there as it got dark and the Israelis appeared to be leaving and we were very nervous. But when the Israelis had moved away, we went inside. And there was no one there. Nobody. I had been only three years married. I never saw my husband again.�

Sabra and Shatila are only one of the massacres of people done by the Israeli government in the past 54 years of Israeli occupation of Palestinian land. Today all of the Palestinian towns of historic Palestine are either occupied by Israeli troops who are killing people or surrounded by Israeli troops and tanks who are poised to attack. While Israeli troops are claiming that they are only killing combatants Human Rights Watch has documented the following crimes in Jenin alone: murders of civilians including children, the old, and the disabled; summary executions; the bulldozing of houses with people in them; and the use of Palestinian civilians as human shields.

The cities of Ramallah and Jenin have been laid to waste by the Zionists just as the Nazis smashed the towns of Guarnica and Lidice in the name of collective punishment. Likewise the heroic resistance of Palestinian fighters in the face of superior military force is reminiscent of the Jewish fighters in the Warsaw Ghetto and Vilna.

The Israeli offensive will not stop those willing to do suicide missions against civilians, attacks that are futile attempts to combat the genocide Palestinians face. The Israeli offensive does the opposite in deepening the conditions that created suicide bombers in the first place. The anger created is by escalated Israeli murder is actually more likely to increase the number tragic of attacks on Hebrew civilians. At the same time Israel has not targeted the main base of the suicide bombers, Gaza, where Hamas is heavily organized. In fact, the murderous Israeli repression really isn’t meant to stop attacks on Hebrew civilians because these bombings by Hamas actually play right into the Zionist government’s aims and objectives in pushing for a final solution against the Palestinian people and the Palestinian Authority who the Israeli government consistently blame for the attacks by Hamas.

Hamas is an anti-Semitic fundamentalist religious organization that killed 150 Israeli civilians through suicide bombings between 1994 and 1998 alone. From its beginnings as the Mujama in the 1970s to this day Hamas does not face the same kind of repression as any other Palestinian group. In addition Hamas reportedly receives $28 million dollars a year from another key U.S. ally in the region, Saudi Arabia.

The U.S. and the Saudi Arabian monarchy work together closely to systematically loot Saudi Arabia’s oil resources for the profits of U.S. oil monopolies while the vast majority of the Saudi people live in poverty. In addition the U.S., Saudi Arabia, and Hamas worked together closely in the U.S. war drive to destroy the left progressive PDPA government that held power in Afghanistan from 1978 to 1992. This was a war where the U.S. government and Saudi Arabia gave billions of dollars of military aid to Osama Bin Laden and the Islamic fundamentalists of the Mujahedin who were waging a holy war against the advances in women’s rights, including women’s literacy, that were occurring under the PDPA government. Tactics of the Mujahedin included throwing acid in the faces of women liberated from the veil and murdering women for teaching little girls how to read and write. Fearing a Mujahedin government right on its border and defending the PDPA government from U.S. aggression the Soviet Union sent troops into Afghanistan in 1979. Although these Soviet troops were invited by the Afghan PDPA U.S. propaganda called this a Soviet invasion.

An estimated 100,000 of the Islamic fundamentalists who fought in Afghanistan were recruited by the CIA outside of Afghanistan. Hamas participated in this activity. As John Cooley from ABC news pointed out on March 13th, 1996 in the International Herald Tribune: “A key Hamas organizer was Abdallah Azzam. He was a tough, brilliant and charismatic Palestinian from Jordan. He supervised training for the CIA’s Afghan guerrillas in Peshawar, Pakistan, where a car bomb killed him in 1989. In the earlier 1980s he toured the United States, recruiting Arab-Americans for the anti-Soviet jihad in Afghanistan.�

Just as the United States used Hamas against the Afghani people and the leftist PDPA government, Israel has used the religious fundamentalists of Hamas as a club against the socialist and secular nationalist movements in Palestine that Hamas has violently opposed. It is those secular and socialist movements that Israel has seen as more of a threat in terms of winning the masses of people, including Hebrew speakers, over to positions of sympathy and solidarity with the Palestinians. Hamas’s suicide bombers against civilians instead serve Zionist interests in driving a larger wedge between Palestinians and Hebrew speakers, people who will need to unite against their common oppressor and killer, the Israeli Zionist government.

Early Israeli support for Hamas included in 1978 the granting of Mujama charitable status in Gaza while other organizations, especially political organizations as Mujama was, could not get such status. In 1979 Israeli collusion with the Mujama movement set up the Islamic University of Gaza whose anti-PLO and anti-socialist slogan was: “How can uncovered women and men with Beatle haircuts liberate our holy places?� Students who did not tow the Islamic line were disciplined through brutal beatings and sometimes had acid thrown in their faces. In addition Mujama mobs were allowed to violently attack and burn down PLO controlled institutions at a time when other street demonstrations were not allowed or tightly controlled by the Israeli authorities.

In 1979 the Mujama movement burned the Palestinian Red Crescent Society’s (PRC) building to the ground. In response the PRC issued the following statement, “The tacit approval of the authorities, if not their actual connivance in what happened, was displayed in their attitude of non-interference. While they usually display great alertness to combating even peaceful demonstrations of young students within schools, here they stood indifferently watching a violently destructive demonstration march to its objectives.�

In 1988 Hamas was formed out of Mujama. While PLO supporters were organizing mass demonstrations in the streets Hamas was instead focusing on shooting Israeli soldiers. Despite this fact Hamas had top-level meetings with the Israeli government while that same government would not even meet with the PLO. Milton Edwards in “Islamic Politics In Palestine� noted the relationship: “The relationship between Hamas and the Israeli authorities was, however, at the strongest during the second year of the Intifada. The Israelis had been quick to extend legitimacy status to Hamas in an attempt to marginalize the PLO. Leaders of Hamas were regularly filmed at meetings with top-level Israeli officials and the message the Israelis were sending out was that they regarded Hamas as the type of people with whom they could work…

“In addition the Israelis continued turning a blind eye to large amounts of money coming into the country destined for Hamas coffers, while at the same time stopping the flow of PLO funds in support of the Intifada.�

In 1994 Hamas began its indiscriminate attacks on Hebrew speaking people through suicide bombings. Those suicide bombings had been stepped up by Hamas in the beginnings of the Intifada 2 uprising in September 2000, but then ended due to an agreement between Arafat’s Palestinian Authority and Hamas. While this agreement was in effect world attention became focused on the gunning down of Palestinian children by Israeli sharp shooters on the West Bank. For the Zionist government this was becoming a public relations disaster.

Israeli Prime Minister Sharon needed a new provocation he could use as propaganda to escalate the war against the Palestinian people and the Palestinian Authority (P.A.). To create this provocation he took action to end the truce between the P.A. and Hamas on ending the suicide bombings of civilians. On November 23rd Israeli security forces assassinated Hamas leader Mahmud Abu Hunud. On November 25th, 2001 right-wing Israeli journalist Alex Fishman accurately observed in the “Yediot Achronot�: “Whoever gave the green light to this act of liquidation knew full well that he is thereby shattering in one blow the gentleman’s agreement between Hamas and the Palestinian Authority; under that agreement, Hamas was to avoid in the near future suicide bombings inside the Green Line.�

Of course no one but Sharon could have given the green light for such an important operation. Sharon’s provocation against the Hamas anti-Semites had its intended affect. Within days Hamas resumed attacks against Israeli civilians. In March a Hamas bomber killed 25 civilians in the Passover attack that was then used by Sharon as his excuse to attack the Palestinian people and the Palestinian Authority while leaving the Hamas stronghold of Gaza untouched.

The U.S. government’s massive military support to the Zionist State and, to a lesser extent to the repressive Saudi Arabian monarchy is responsible for the bloodshed in Palestine. The racist state of Israel currently receives 300,000 dollars per hour in U.S. military and economic aid. The F-16 bombers, Apache and Cobra helicopters used in the latest attacks are just some of the weapons used to kill Palestinians that are made in the United States.

Socialists stand for an end to U.S. military aid to Israel and all of the crowned princes, sheiks, emirs, and Islamic fanatics of the Middle East. We understand that these U.S. policies are the policies of both the Democrat and Republican Parties. Imperialist policy isn’t the result of some misunderstanding by these parties of the wealthy. Instead the repressive and genocidal policies of U.S. imperialism flow inevitably from the drive for profits by the rapacious U.S. capitalists that rule America and much of the world. From this understanding socialists know that the only way we will get a just foreign policy, fair treatment of workers and the poor, and sound ecological policies is through a socialist revolution in the United States.

---Steve Argue, for Liberation News
 
 


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Re: Zionism, Nazism, and Radical Islam -A History Lesson For Becky Johnson

Steve: Open up any Bible. It does say that God gave Israel "from the river to the sea" to the Jewish people. No 19th century group of Zionists made that up. The Temple Mount in Jerusalem is the ONLY Jewish holy site. I don't think you respect that. I understand that you are against religious governments, but you sound like you are scoffing at a 3,300 year old religion. It may not be your cup of tea, but you cannot deny that religion is real important to a lot of people. They are not all idiots.

While you make a good case for the harm many religions have committed against humanity, Stalin and Mao-tse-tung slaughtered millions too-- and they were the "Godless" communists.

I don't see you writing and demanding that Sweden stop being a Lutheran democracy.

Do I need to refute your assertion that the Jews are responsible for the Nazi holocaust? I doubt it. Anyone reading this knows you've gone off the deep end.
 

other perspectives

From the new issue of Wired magazine:

Apocalypse Now
[ Available online starting March 29 ]

How a hologram, a blimp, and a massively multiplayer game might bring peace to the Holy Land.
By Joshua Davis

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Book Reviews (Do or Die)

Pacifism as Pathology: Reflections on the Role of Armed Struggle in North America

by Ward Churchill

Arbeiter Ring Publishing, Canada, 1999 / ISBN 1-894037-07-3

Whether you agree with all of Churchill's arguments or not (and personally I have a few problems with the therapy stuff) his analysis of the pacifist doctrine is both eloquent and truly eye-opening. I spent some time involved in explicitly non-violent activism in the UK without really thinking through the ideological implications - it was simply the first direct action scene I came across. I only wish that I had read this book 7 years ago and hastened the learning process that has led me to many of the same conclusions as the author. Don't be put off, however, if you are happily involved in non-violent action; this book will shed new light on your activities. In short, I can't recommend this book highly enough - if you, your friend, your flatmate or your mum hasn't read this book then get a copy quick!

Pacifism as Pathology - Notes on an American Pseudopraxis is the title of Ward Churchill's well-argued and persuasive essay criticising the form and ideology of non-violent political action in North America. The essay was first published in 1986, and is reprinted in this book alongside an essay by Mike Ryan who further develops the arguments in the context of the Canadian peace movement. Though Churchill's essay was written in response to the political scene of well over a decade ago, his arguments are (perhaps worringly) equally thought-provoking and relevant to the contemporary manifestations of non-violent political action that purport to have revolutionary methods and goals.

Taking the experience of the Jews in the Holocaust as an in-depth (and highly controversial) example, the author illustrates the ultimate futility of non-violent resistance. He suggests that the pacifist response of the Jews which was intended to promote "social responsibility" and not further exacerbate their persecution, in fact did the opposite and led to the Jews effectively colluding with the genocidal aims of their Nazi oppressors. Whilst not suggesting that the Holocaust could have been prevented by armed struggle on the part of the Jews, Churchill, quoting Bruno Bettleheim (a former concentration camp inmate), says: "Rebellion could only have saved either the life they were going to lose anyway, or the lives of others...Inertia it was that led millions of Jews into the ghettos that the SS had created for them." (p.36)

Churchill recognises that this example is extreme yet he suggests that: "it is precisely this extremity which makes the example useful; the Jewish experience reveals with stark clarity the basic illogic at the very core of pacifist conceptions of morality and political action." (p.38) The illogic to which he is referring is the idea that moral superiority can overcome state oppression; the moral superiority being based upon an unwillingness to take up arms and use violence as a tactic. This notion is so central to the 'pathology' of pacifism that the dichotomies between good (non-violent) and evil (violent) are found throughout. Of course, in order to sustain a belief in the ideology examples of good (non-violence) triumphing over evil (violence) are vital. Here, Churchill argues that pacifists are guilty of considerable revisionism in order to make history compatible with their beliefs.
 

Re: Zionism, Nazism, and Radical Islam -A History Lesson For Becky Johnson

History doesn't matter, what matters is this - who is sending 10 year olds to blow up innocent civilians, and who isn't?
 

Re: Zionism, Nazism, and Radical Islam -A History Lesson For Becky Johnson

Israel is the agressor, the occupier, the vastly larger, militarily superior force. Thanks especially to our tax dollars, helping to build their weapons of mass destruction and military.

The Palestinians are defending themselves in any way they can. The real question is NOT the question you ask. The real question is why are we still sending billions to a country that has repeatedly ignored and (with the help of U.S. vetoes) over ridden international law, and is illegally and violently occupying the West Bank and Gaza, using the "wall" not just to "protect themselves from the terrorists" but to further divide and conquor the Palestinian people, and grab as much land as they can. these are the real questions. If this country were occupied by a vastly superior one, with little or no defense, we would also use whatever means we had to defend ourselves.

There are vastly more "innocent Palestinian civilians" that are murdered than Israeli's.

I don't see Palestinian's going into Israel and bulldozing their homes, do you? I don't see them building a wall and stealing Israel's land, do you. I mean, come on. Give me a fucking break.
 

Re: Zionism, Nazism, and Radical Islam -A History Lesson For Becky Johnson

"I don't see Palestinian's going into Israel and bulldozing their homes, do you?"

No, palestinians fo into Israeli homes to murder children...
Masha'allah Israel is strong...Buyilding the security fence will keep the barbarian moslems out!!!
 

Re: Zionism, Nazism, and Radical Islam -A History Lesson For Becky Johnson

Apparently building fences is a more agregious crime than blowing up busses full of childrenand other innocents.
 

Re: Zionism, Nazism, and Radical Islam -A History Lesson For Becky Johnson

Any thinking person can see that any religious state is a violation of the rights of those who have other faiths or who do no believe. Separation of church and state was a basic democratic gain of the American Revolution and other bourgeois revolutions as well as the 1917 October Revolution.

The idea that the Bible gives Palestine to the capitalist Zionist government is as outdated as the Bible is itself. While the idea that some all knowing super-natural being created the entire universe and all life on earth may have once seemed a reasonable explanation of our world, scientific advances have long since antiquated such superstition. Likewise ideas of chosen people (over others) have been replaced in enlightened minds by principles of equality.

"Do I need to refute your assertion that the Jews are responsible for the Nazi holocaust?" Becky, I did not say the Jews were responsible. I said that the Zionist movement backed Hitler. I offered plenty of proof on this fact as well as providing motive.
 

What we got from the Nazi regime, we will now dish out.

If the wall was to protect the Israeli people from the "muslim barbarians" then why is it not along the green line? It is obviously a land and resource grab by the greedy zionist government, who despite their cries of holocaust this and holocaust that could not give a flying &*%( about the humanity and rights of the Palestianian people. The wall is to surround and further enslave the Palestinian people, and to grab as much land and resources as possible. The greedy Zionists would have shown good faith by putting it on the green line. Instead, once again, they have exposed their real agenda. As if people didn't know.
 

Re: Zionism, Nazism, and Radical Islam -A History Lesson For Becky Johnson

"what matters is this - who is sending 10 year olds to blow up innocent civilians, and who isn't?" - B.J.

This is quite a discussion, ladies and gentlemen, but I wonder, who is sending million dollar missiles to disintigrate wheelchair bound human beings? Who has million dollar robots to clear bomb sites--that happen to accidentally kill bystanders? Who has fleets of bulldozers to 'disappear' entire towns? Who killed Rachel Corrie? And who is responsible for a people who have passed several generations in refugee camps, supposedly temporary crisis housing? Who is building a wall with virtual slave labor? Who has broken the most UN resolutions? Who has nukes? Who? And since the word Semite refers to Jew and Palestinian both, who's the Anti-Semite?
 

Re: Zionism, Nazism, and Radical Islam -A History Lesson For Becky Johnson

" This is quite a discussion, ladies and gentlemen, but I wonder, who is sending million dollar missiles to disintigrate wheelchair bound human beings?"

The Israelis-Masha'allah!!!! Besides, yassin was hardly a "human being"
 

Re: Zionism, Nazism, and Radical Islam -A History Lesson For Becky Johnson

Steve: I made no assertion whatsoever about whether the Biblical promises to the Jewish people of the land of Israel have any validity or not. These are matters of faith. But you discount that many Jews are believers in their Torah, and do believe the land of Israel was given to them by God. Hardly a "land grab." Your own opinions of "superstition" while you are certainly entitled to them, do not reflect the beliefs of religious Jews and these beliefs did not begin with 19th century Zionists. Why do you single out Israel, a theocratic democracy, while you are silent about dozens of other theocracies which are monarchies or brutal dictatorships? You have a double-standard when it comes to Israel.

Your anti-Zionist diatribe is largly out of context. Yes there were some small groups of fanatical zionists who put forth some preposterous notions. They were not the mainstream voices and did not prevail in the formation of the modern State of Israel. Many discussions happened and to pick a few lines out of context is the heart of disengenuosity. The early Zionists in the first part of the 20th century moved onto land they purchased from willing sellers. They did not displace Arabs from their homeland. In 1948, the mayor of Haifa, at great personal risk, drove through Arab neighborhoods with a bullhorn and begged the Arab population to stay and help build the new state of Israel. He was not the only one.

The vast majority of Arab migration to Israel occurred as Arabs from all the neighboring countries immigrated to Israel for the new jobs in industry and agriculture the new Jewish state created. Most are NOT indigenous Palestinians.

Where is your ire for Jordan, which has a 60% Palestinian population controlled by a Monarch who is a member of the minority group? Why don't you call for Palestinian rights in Jordan?

Daniel-san: Which people practice "honor" killings of women? Which people do not allow another religion to be practised other than Islam? Which people outlaw gay and lesbian practices? Which people have a strictly state-controlled media? Which people preach in their mosques every Friday to kill the Jews? Which people have called for every Jew to be driven from the West Bank and Gaza contrary to Israel wich has 15 recognized religions allowed free practice and has a 20% Arabic/Muslim population? Which people have a leader who was elected 7 years ago to a five year term? Which group has repeatedly called "to drive the Jews into the sea"? Which people have been unsuccessful in dismantling terrorist infrastructures which sabotage every effort at a negotiated peace? Which people have regular free elections? Which people support women's rights? Which people are surrounded by 23 Arab/Muslim countries (who pass one UN resolution after another condeming Israel) of which only two have peace treaties with Israel and the rest still publically call for the destruction of the ONLY Jewish state in the world? Which people have cynical adults strapping bombs on their own teenagers and sending them to their deaths as mass murderers of civilians?Daniel-san--you present a one-sided critique which is not rooted in the historical context that the Jewish people are still engaged in a struggle for their very existance.
 

Re: Zionism, Nazism, and Radical Islam -A History Lesson For Becky Johnson

As a matter of faith members of the Ku Klux Klan believe whites to have been created superior to all people. I am not afraid of offending their religious sensibilities, nor am I afraid of declaring that such people and their racist violence should be defeated by any means necessary.

Likewise I have no desire to humor Zionist religious beliefs of a god given right to ownership to the land that they have been stealing. A similar belief in killing natives to take their land was called Manifest Destiny in America.

Becky, it is hard to believe that you still believe the Zionist lie that the Palestinians in Palestine are the foreigners. The Palestinian people are scattered all over the world because of the extreme violence and discrimination used against them by the Zionist state in their homeland. The Palestinians that remain are those that have not yet been driven out. These population statistics are not hard to find if you choose to be properly informed and do your homework.

Becky you ask, “Where is your ire for Jordan, which has a 60% Palestinian population controlled by a Monarch who is a member of the minority group? Why don't you call for Palestinian rights in Jordan?� Obviously you did not even read what I wrote since I very clearly called for the overthrow of the repressive U.S. backed monarchy in Jordan as part of establishing a united, democratic, secular, and socialist Palestine within the present borders of Israel and Jordan.

You also attribute my quotes from the fathers of the Zionist movement to, “Small groups of fanatical zionists who put forth some preposterous notions.� Unfortunately those preposterous notions are still alive and well and today embodied in the philosophies and violence of such madmen as Sharon. Sharon and his capitalist Zionist system hold power today because they are backed in billions of dollars of U.S. military aid, aid that must end.

For more information please read:
STEVE ARGUE debates SENATOR ADAM KLINE on ISRAEL
twincities.indymedia.org/newswire/rate/5256
 

Re: Zionism, Nazism, and Radical Islam -A History Lesson For Becky Johnson

Dear friends, Please let me know what you think Israel SHOULD do about these unrelenting attacks on their citizens. --- Becky

CHRONOLOGY OF ATTACKS BY HAMAS

compiled on the IDF website
March 22, 2004

Major Terrorist Attacks Perpetrated by Hamas
1. 16 March 1989: Avi Saportas kidnapped from Hodaya Junction

2. 3 May 1989 - Ilan Saadon kidnapped

3. 9 October 1989 -Nachshon Waxman kidnapped

4. 24 July 1995 - Suicide attack at a Ramat Gan bus (no. 20); 5 dead, 32 wounded

5. 21 August 1995 - Suicide attack at a Jerusalem bus (no. 26); 4 dead, 107 wounded

6. 25 February 1996 - Suicide attack a Jerusalem bus (no. 18); 26 dead

7. 3 March 1996 - Suicide attack at a Jerusalem bus (no. 18); 18 dead

8. 21 March 1997 - Bombing attack at a Tel Aviv caf? (Apropo); 3 dead

9. 30 July 1997 - Double suicide attack at the Jerusalem Mahane Yehuda market; 16 dead, 170 wounded

10. 4 September 1997 - Triple suicide attack at the Jerusalem Ben Yehuda market; 5 dead, 164 wounded

11. 1 June 2001 - Suicide attack at a Tel Aviv discotheque (Dolphinarium); 21 dead, 120 wounded

12. 9 august 2001 - Suicide attack at a Jerusalem restaurant (Sbarro); 15 dead, 140 wounded

13. 1 December 2001 - Double attack (suicide / car bomb) in Jerusalem; 11 killed, 150 wounded

14. 2 December 2001 - Suicide attack at a Haifa bus; 15 killed, 58 wounded

15. 12 December 2001 - Bombing and shooting attack at an Emanuel bus; 11 dead, 27 wounded

16. 9 March 2002 - Suicide attack at a Jerusalem caf? (Moment); 11 dead, 16 wounded

17. 27 March 2002 - Suicide attack at a Netanya hotel (Park); 30 dead, 155 wounded

18. 31 March 2002 - Suicide attack at a Haifa restaurant (Matza); 17 killed, 33 wounded

19. 7 May 2002 - Suicide attack at a Rishon Lezion club; 16 killed, 60 wounded

20. 18 June 2002 - Suicide attack at a Jerusalem bus (Pat Junction); 19 killed, 42 wounded

21. 16 July 2002 - Bombing and shooting attack at an Emanuel bus; 9 killed, 18 wounded

22. 31 July 2002 - Bombing attack at the Jerusalem Hebrew University; 9 killed, 80 wounded

23. 4 august 2002 - Suicide attack at a bus at Meron Junction; 9 killed, 46 wounded

24. 21 November 2002 - Suicide attack at a Jerusalem bus; 11 killed, 51 wounded

25. 5 March 2003 - Suicide attack at a Haifa bus (Moria st.); 17 killed, 40 wounded

26. 30 April 2003 - Double suicide attack at the Tel Aviv seaside promenade; 3 killed, 40 wounded. The terrorists were British citizens who penetrated into Israel from the Gaza Strip

27. 11 June 2003 - Suicide attack at a Jerusalem bus (no. 14); 17 killed, 105 wounded

28. 19 august 2003 - Suicide attack at a Jerusalem bus (no. 2); 23 killed, 105 wounded

29. 9 September 2003 - Suicide attack at a Jerusalem cafe (Hillel); 7 killed, 66 wounded

30. 14 January 2004 - Suicide attack at Erez crossing (female terrorist); 4 killed, 10 wounded

31. 29 January 2004 - Suicide attack at a Jerusalem bus (no. 19); 11 killed, 42 wounded

32. 14 March 2004 - Double suicide attack at the Ashdod marine port; 11 killed, 13 wounded.
 

Re: What should Israel do?

I think being US Citizens we should primarily address the question of what the US should do. I agree with Steve. The US should cut off all aid to Israel. In my opinion this should be done until Israel dismantles the various fences and walls, dismantles the settlements, and withdraws to the pre-1967 borders. If it does this, I think 50% of the aid should be restored as long as it is restricted to non-military aid, and the other 50% should be used to help establish a democratic Palestinian state. The 50% that would be restored to Israel should during the time the aid is suspended be used to resettle the Israeli settlers that don't want to be part of a Palestinian state in the US.

Any more questions?
 

Re: Zionism, Nazism, and Radical Islam -A History Lesson For Becky Johnson

Casual observer: Please look at the terms of the peace treaty between Israel and Egypt which the US brokered 25 years ago. It called for Israel to give back 94% of the land it took over in 1967, and gave Israel $3 billion a year in aid and Egypt $2 billion too.

Do you really think the US should break the peace treaty between Egypt and Israel? Should Israel then be allowed to reclaim the Sinai peninsula and all its oil?

Think about this before you write again.
 

Israel so sweet, and Jews so kind, but for Mossad and Sharon.

I agree with Steve and Casual Observer. Sharon has shown himself for who he is: extrememly dangerous to the peace and security of the Mideast, just as U.S. policies are very dangerous for the world and America. Sharon and Bush are boyfriends. They are fu%*%*ng the
entire world up the ass. There is no kind and gentle Sharon, or Bush. They are no less than the rise of the 4th world wide Reich. The Mossad's phraze is something similiar to: "By deception we shall wage war".
They are the most sophisticated, organized, funded (from who???) security and secret military police forces on the planet. They have had and continue to have extensive spy operations here in the United States. They are expert in psychological manipulation, deceipt, murder, and ruthless lies to achieve their ends. Here is just a few things you may not know: Every single call that is made in the United states goes through an Israeli system. If U.S. intelligence needs to do a trace on someones phone calls, they need to go to this Israeli company. (Amdock?) Many of the main Instant Message services are based in Israel.
Just prior Sept. 11th the Israeli paging company (Idigo or Indigo I think), sent out pages to their New York clients to avoid downtown Manhattan that day. There were also 400 Israeli "art students" who were arrested and found to be Mossad agents. I believe they were deported. This was just prior to Sept. 11th. It appears that Israel knew that the attacks were forthcomming, and did not send warning. Why not?

Of course foreign spies on U.S. soil is a major story, but did you hear about any of this in the main stream media? Hardly. It was barely in the alternative media, at all!!!
While the FIRST tower was being hit, a small group of Israeli's were found celebrating, cheering, and FILMING the event. Just a cooincidence they happened to have the camera on, and be celebrating at that time?????

Mossad recently created a false flag operation in Palestine posing as Al Queada, trying to recruit Palestians. They were exposed. It appears the Mossad has a long history of false flag and psychological operations to achieve their ends.

What is really going on here? What is the Mossad doing in the United States?? Israel's breadth and depth of involvement, manipulation for power and control, and the use of "deciept" to wage a overt and covert agenda. What is that agenda? Control the Mideast with the United States? Build a "Greater Israel"???
Have you EVER heard that term before? It doesn't get tossed around much. But it may be the key to understanding an angle of the Zionist Vision. Apparently it involves Israel expanding it's power, resources, land and influence. I believe that is the Zionist Vision and that the U.S. administration in it's far right reactionary, fascistic "christian" agenda seems fully wed to the Zionist counterpart. It's a match made in...

hell.

(christianity is only used as a cover for them. To be a satinist, which many of them are,and Skull and Bones is a Satanist society, you have to be a "christian", strangely enough. Nothing to do with Yahshua/Jesus. It is clearly a false front of religion to manipulate the masses. There are authentic followers of Yahshua/Jesus, just as there are authentic Jews. Many of my best friends throughout my life have been Jews. I have been to Israel, and it is a place of deep beauty, and deep people. Breathtaking beauty all around. This issue has nothing at all to do with anti semitism (And Arabs are Semites as much as that specific lineage of Jews are Semites anyway, so the word is not even used accurately) Jews are as wonderful and as imperfect as the rest of humanity. Zionism has nothing in the least to do with the beauty and majesty of Israel, and the beauty and awesomeness of the Jewish people and the Israeli people. Neither does the falsity and evil of George W. Bush have to do with the American people, or with authentic Christianity. These people's agenda are their own. There is only a relatively tiny amount of them, but they have over the centuries, gradually gained an enourmous amount of control. Now they have it, and they do not plan on letting go. It is up to those people who are not yet so numbed out that they cannot see the writing on the wall, to rise up and speak out.

Educate.

We are living in the rise of the 4th Reich in America, nothing less.

Activate.
 

Re: Zionism, Nazism, and Radical Islam -A History Lesson For Becky Johnson

Becky, you say that someone agreeing with me is tantamount to telling Jews to blow themselves up. Yet in advocating justice and equal rights for the Palestinian people I have very clearly opposed murderous attacks that target the Hebrew speaking civilians.

Becky, it is interesting to see that you are now blaming Hamas and not the P.A. for the suicide bombings. I would not have been able to get that out of you a year ago. What do you think of the help Hamas has received from the Israeli state? What do you think of the aid Hamas gets from the U.S. puppet government in Saudi Arabia? What do you think of my contention that Israel has been carrying out attacks on key Hamas leaders in order to keep the suicide attacks coming so that the Zionist government can will have more political backing as they continue to carry out genocide against the Palestinian people?

Becky, you ask if the billions of dollars in U.S. military aid to the repressive governments of Israel and Egypt should be cut off. I do. You then think that this would be justification for Israel to go to war with Egypt and take their oil. Yet I have news for you: without U.S. military aid Israel's ability to wage wars against the Arab peoples would soon end. Instead of killing Arabs that money could be used to house the homeless in the US.

I disagree with all notions that the U.S. should place preconditions on the Israeli settler state for ending U.S. military aid to Israel. By inference these are the preconditions for continuing U.S. military aid to the Israeli Zionist state. In addition it assumes that the U.S. is not directly responsible for the murderous actions of the Israel, but instead could actually play a progressive role in reigning in Israel. This is a false assumption of the role of U.S. imperialism. Instead we should demand the U.S. stop creating war and conflict by propping up the genocidal and racist government of Israel by getting out.
 

Re: Zionism, Nazism, and Radical Islam -A History Lesson For Becky Johnson

"I think being US Citizens we should primarily address the question of what the US should do. I agree with Steve. The US should cut off all aid to Israel. In my opinion this should be done until Israel dismantles the various fences and walls, dismantles the settlements, and withdraws to the pre-1967 borders. If it does this, I think 50% of the aid should be restored as long as it is restricted to non-military aid, and the other 50% should be used to help establish a democratic Palestinian state. The 50% that would be restored to Israel should during the time the aid is suspended be used to resettle the Israeli settlers that don't want to be part of a Palestinian state in the US.

Any more questions?"

And how shall we punish the Palestinians for their aggressive and violent tactics? Hmmmmmmm?
 

Re: Zionism, Nazism, and Radical Islam -A History Lesson For Becky Johnson

The Mossad CREATED Hamas. Do the research. Steve is right on with above post.
 

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Steve, the name of the country is "Israel".
The people who live there are "Israelis."
It is a Jewish Democracy that recognizes the rights of all people to practise whatever religion they want, or none at all.
Currently there is no Palestine.

They are not the "Hebrew-speaking people". You really hate Israel and it shows.
 

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for Mossadhammas: Yes, years and years ago, Israel had a hand in setting up Hamas as an organization that provided food, clothing, and other services to needy Palestinians. It quickly morphed into yet another terrorist organization and Israel long ago ended this support.

Yes I blame Hamas for much of the terrorism. They put out press releases and claim credit and then hold celebratory parades in Gaza whenever they kill a lot of Jews. Its insane for you to use the word "genocide" to describe Israeli govt. practices. There were only four incidences of genocide in the 20th century. Rwanda, Cambodia, East Timoor, and the Jewish holocaust in Nazi, Germany. Genocide means killing an entire people.

Obviously there is a war going on right now between the Palestinians and the Israelis where both sides are shooting and taking lives. I view Israel's position as a defensive one. There is ample proof of Israel's efforts to build a peace such as building 166 health clinics for the Palestinians between '67 and '93. They expanded water systems, sewer systems, and electrical grids for the Palestinians as well when Israel controlled those areas. They built 7 universities for the Palestinians and a sports stadium, thinking that young people need to channel their activities towards non-violent means. Of course, the day Arafat came into power with Oslo, he rounded up all the Palestinians who had co-operated with Israel between '67 and '93 when Israel DID occupy the West Bank, and had a group public execution there. It was the first violation of Oslo and committed by the brand new PA.

Between 1949 and 1971, Israel re-patriated 140,000 Palestinian refugees and they are now Israeli citizens with full rights. Take note George.

Yes I blame the PA as well for the violence of Hamas, Al Aksa Martyrs Brigade, Islamic Jihad, etc. since the 30,000 strong PA police force are armed terrorists by night. The PA has done less than nothing to stop the terror attacks on Israel and many examples exist of Arafat and other PA leaders telling their people (in Arabic) that their true goal is the destruction of the State of Israel--something you support Steve.

If the Israelis were really intent on genociding the Palestinians, they could do it in about a day and half. They haven't. They aren't. They won't. Its not fair to blame them for something they might do.

As for the targeted killings of Hamas leaders---if they can capture them and put them on trial that would be better. But that is difficult given that Israel DOES NOT OCCUPY GAZA (take note fellow leftists). The PA does nothing to reign in the terror attacks. So Israel has chosen to try to pick off the leaders who are right now in the process of planning future mass murders as a last resort.

Do you blame them?

What should they do instead? Just die, I guess.
for more info: www.StandWithUs.com
 

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The Arabs started all the wars: 1948
Written by Arjan El Fassed. Edited by Laurie King-Irani.
Myth
Since the establishment of Israel there have been five major wars between
Arabs and the Israelis. These wars occured in 1948, 1956, 1967, 1973 and
1982. Israel claims that the Arabs started all the wars. Although there has
been low-intensity conflict in the intervening years and major
conflagrations during the "War of Attrition" in 1969-1970 and the 1978
invasion of Lebanon, massive civil disobedience during the Uprising of 1988,
and in 2000-2001 during the Al-Aqsa Intifada, it is these five wars Israel
refers to when it makes its claims, creating the impression that Israel has
only acted "in self-defence".
The roots of the 1948 war go as far back as the first recognition on the
part of the Palestinians that the Zionists wished to establish a Jewish
state on their land. In late 1947 the United Nations proposed that Palestine
be divided into a Palestinian Arab state and a Jewish state. The UN
Partition Plan recommended that 55 percent of Palestine, and the most
fertile region, be given to the Jewish settlers who compromised 30 percent
of the population. The remaining 45 percent of Palestine was to comprise a
home for the other 70 percent of the population who were Palestinians. The
Palestinians rejected the plan because it was unfair.
Israel and its supporters claim that the Arabs first attacked in Janurary
1948 and then invaded Israel in May 1948.

Facts
The truth is that by May 1948 Zionist forces had already invaded and
occupied large parts of the land which had been allocated to the
Palestinians by the UN Partition Plan. In January 1948 Israel did not yet
exist.
The evidence that Israel started the 1948 war comes from Zionist sources.
The History of the Palmach which was released in portions in the 1950s (and
in full in 1972) details the efforts made to attack the Palestinian Arabs
and secure more territory than alloted to the Jewish state by the UN
Partition Plan (Kibbutz Menchad Archive, Palmach Archive, Efal, Israel).
Already, Zionist forces were implementing their "Plan Dalet" to
"control the area given to us [the Zionists] by the U.N. in addition to
areas occupied by Arabs which were outside these borders and the setting up
of forces to counter the possible invasion of Arab armies after May 15"
(Qurvot 1948, p. 16, which covers the operations of Haganah and Palmach, see
also Ha Sepher Ha Palmach, The Book of Palmach).
1. Operation Nachson, 1 April 1948
2. Operation Harel, 15 April 1948
3. Operation Misparayim, 21 April 1948
4. Operation Chametz, 27 April 1948
5. Operation Jevuss, 27 April 1948
6. Operation Yiftach, 28 April 1948
7. Operation Matateh, 3 May 1948
8. Operation Maccabi, 7 May 1948

9. Operation Gideon, 11 May 1948
10. Operation Barak, 12 May 1948
11. Operation Ben Ami, 14 May 1948
12. Operation Pitchfork, 14 May 1948
13. Operation Schfifon, 14 May 1948
The operations 1-8 indicate operations carried out before the entry of the
Arab forces inside the areas allotted by the UN to the Arab state. It has to
be noted that of thirteen specific full-scale operations under Plan Dalet
eight were carried out outside the area "given" by the UN to the Zionists.
Following is a list drawn from the New York Times of the major military
operations the Zionists mounted before the British evacuated Palestine and
before the Arab forces entered Palestine:
· Qazaza (21 Dec. 1947)
· Sa'sa (16 Feb. 1948)
· Haifa (21 Feb. 1948)
· Salameh (1 March 1948)
· Biyar Adas (6 March 1948)
· Qana (13 March 1948)
· Qastal (4 April 1948)
· Deir Yassin (9 April 1948)
· Lajjun (15 April 1948)
· Saris (17 April 1948)
· Tiberias (20 April 1948)
· Haifa (22 April 1948)
· Jerusalem (25 April 1948)
· Jaffa (26 April 1948)
· Acre (27 April 1948)
· Jerusalem (1 May 1948)
· Safad (7 May 1948)
· Beisan (9 May 1948).
David Ben-Gurion confirms this in an address delivered to American Zionists
in Jerusalem on 3 September 1950:
"Until the British left, no Jewish settlement, however remote, was entered
or seized by the Arabs, while the Haganah, under severe and frequent attack,
captured many Arab positions and liberated Tiberias and Haifa, Jaffa and
Safad" (Ben-Gurion, Rebirth and Destiny of Israel (N.Y.: Philosophical
Library, 1954, p. 530).
Although late PM Ben-Gurion speaks of "liberating" Jaffa it was alloted to
the Palestinians by the UN Partition Plan.
Late PM Menachem Begin adds:
"In the months preceding the Arab invasion, and while the five Arab states
were conducting preparations, we continued to make sallies into Arab
territory. The conquest of Jaffa stands out as an event of first-rate
importance in the struggle for Hebrew independence early in May, on the eve
[that is, before the alleged Arab invasion] of the invasion by the five Arab
states" (Menachem Begin, The Revolt, Nash, 1972, p. 348)
On 12 December 1948 David Ben Gurion confirmed the fact that the Zionists
started the war in 1948:
"As April began, our War of Independence swung decisively from defense to
attack. Operation 'Nachson'...was launched with the capture of Arab Hulda
near where we stand today and of Deir Muheisin and culminated in the
storming of Qastel, the great hill fortress near Jerusalem" (Ben Gurion,
Rebirth and Destiny of Israel (N.Y.: Philosophical Library, 1954, p. 106).
Israeli historians have themselves refuted the claim that the Arabs started
the 1948 war. Benny Morris uncovered a report from the Israeli Defense Force
Intelligence Branch (30 June 1948) that shows a deliberate Israeli policy to
attack the Arabs should they resist and expel the Palestinians (Benny
Morris, "The Causes and Character of the Arab Exodus from Palestine: the
Israel Defense Forces Intelligence Branch Analysis of June 1948", Middle
Eastern Studies, XXII, January 1986, pp. 5-19).

Conclusion
In sum, it is not true that the Arabs "invaded Israel" in 1948.
First, Israel did not exist at the time of the alleged invasion as an
established state with recognised bounderies. When the Zionist leaders
established Israel on 15 May 1948 they purposely declined to declare the
bounderies of the new state in order to allow for future expansion.
Secondly, the only territory to which the new state of Israel had even a
remote claim was that alloted to the Jewish state by the UN Partition Plan.
But the Zionists had already attacked areas that were alloted to the
Palestinian Arab state.
Thirdly, those areas which the Arab states purportedly "invaded" were, in
fact, exclusively areas alloted to the Palestinian Arab state proposed by
the UN Partition Plan. The so-called Arab invasion was a defensive attempt
to hold on to the areas alloted by the Partition Plan for the Palestinian
state.
Finally, the commander of Jordan's Arab Legion, was under orders not to
enter the areas alloted to the Jewish state (Sir John Bagot Glubb, "The
Battle for Jerusalem", Middle East International, May 1973).
 

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Israel invaded Egypt in 1956. Israel invaded with the backing of France and Britain, both of whom were angered by Nasser's decision to nationalize the Suez Canal in Egypt. The Suez Canal was built by Egyptian labor but was operated by a French company and was used as the lifeline of the British Empire and was seen as a symbol of Western exploitation in Egypt. The reaction in Western capitals was one of extreme hostility. Prime Minister Anthony Eden of Britian regarded the nationalization as theft and threatened to teach Nasser a lesson. Throughout the late summer of 1956, special international conferences were held to seek a resolution to the matter. Although Nasser offered to pay compensation to the Suez Canal Company, he refused to compromise on the Egyptianization of the canal. His position was strengthened by the ability of Egyptian technicians to keep the waterway operating smoothly, something that Britain had claimed would be impossible. While efforts to reach a negotiated settlement of the crises were under way, Britain, France, and Israel concluded a secret agreement for joint military action against Egypt. Their agreement was activated on October 29, 1956, with an Israeli strike on the Sinai. On October 31, the British airforce began heavy bombing raids on targets near Cairo and along the canal zone, and Israeli ground forces raced to the east bank of the canal. British and french paratroops dropped on Port Said on November 5, and on the following day the main Anglo-French force landed at the northern end of the canal and began to advance on Suez City. The advance was halted when, at midnight on November 6, Britain and France agreed to a UN sponsored cease-fire. The tripartite attack was condemned by the US.


1956

Israel blames the 1956 Sinai war on Egypt's aggressive behavior, including the closing of the Suez Canal.

Facts

The facts concerning the Sinai war come from Israeli sources. A decisive and authoritative contribution exploding the myth of Israel's accusations are the revelations from former Prime Minister Moshe Sharett's Personal Diary (Moshe Sharett, Yoman Ishi, Ma'ariv, 1979, in Hebrew with portions trans. in Livia Rokach, Israel's Sacred Terrorism: A Study Based on Moshe Sharett's Personal Diary and Other Documents, AAUG, 1980).

The main reason often given for the origin of the 1956 war was Egypt's closing of the Suez Canal. Moshe Sharett reveals that the Israeli leadership was planning the territorial conquest of the Sinai and Gaza as early as the fall of 1953. The Israeli attack on Gaza in February 1955 was undertaken as a conscious preliminary act of war. David Ben-Gurion became Prime Minister and Israel soon became very aggressive.

On 28 February 1955 Israeli troops invaded Gaza killing 37 Egyptians and wounding 31. The attack came out of the blue. Egyptian President Gamal Nasser said it "was revenge for nothing. Everything was quiet there" (Kennett Love, Suez: the Twice Fought War, McGraw-Hill, 1969, p. 83). The Chief of Staff of the United Nations Truce Supervision Organisation, Swedish General Carl von Horn, confirmed Nasser's claim, asserting that there had been

"comparative tranquility along the armistice demarcation lines during the greater part of the period November 1954 to February 1955" (Report to the Security Council, UN Doc. S3373, 17 March 1955).

In the 1950s few people believed that Nasser had aggressive intentions towards Israel. Richard Grossman, a British Zionist, wrote in 1955 that:

"not only Egypt, but the whole Middle East must pray that Nasser survives the assassin's bullet. I am certain that he is a man who means what he says, and that so long as he is in power directing his middle-class revolution, Egypt will remain a factor for peace and social development" (Richard Grossman, New Statesman and Nation, 22 January 1955).

The Gaza raid changed everything. Arab public opinion was outraged and demanded action, as it was intended to. Nasser needed arms to equip his army which was hopelessly outgunned by Israel. Western Intelligence was convinced that Egypt had no intention of attacking Israel. The Americans rebuffed Nasser in any case and Egypt turned to the Russians who orchestrated the famous Czech arms deal which was used by Israel for feigned outrage. The Russians had also used the Czechs to supply arms to Israel in 1948.

Nasser did not realise that he was being set up for the Israeli invasion, although he did recognise that the situation was heating up. In October 1955, a year before the war, Israeli PM David Ben-Gurion ordered his Chief of Staff, General Moshe Dayan, to prepare invasion plans. Ben Gurion was determined, according to Dayan,

"not to miss any politically favorable opportunity to strike at Egypt" (Moshe Dayan, Diary of the Sinai Campaign, Weidenfeld and Nicolson, 1966, p. 37).

Dayan expressed the hopes of the Israeli leadership when he said in December 1955:

"One of these days a situation will be created which makes military action possible" (Kennet Love, Suez: The Twice Fought War, McGraw-Hill, 1969, p. 106).

The opportunity to make war against Egypt came in July 1956 when Nasser nationalised the Suez Canal, an act within the legal right of the Egyptian state. The Suez Canal was controlled by foreigners in 1956 and represented an important vestige of colonialism affronting the Arab people. Nasser's action was popular although, in hindsight, politically cataclysmic. France and Britain, in one of the last spasms of European colonialism, colluded in a secret alliance with Israel to invade the Sinai and destroy Nasser.

On 29 October 1956 Israel attacked Egypt and occupied the entire Sinai. French war equipment poured into Israel and French and British warships bombarded the Egyptian coast. French and British troops landed and helped the Israeli armed forces. Eisenhower, who had been in the dark about the invasion plans and the secret alliance, demanded that Israeli forces withdraw from Egyptian territory. Israel refused, leading Eisenhower to exclaim:

"Should a nation which attacks and occupies foreign territory in the face of U.N. disapproval be allowed to impose conditions on its own withdrawal? If we agree that armed attack can properly achieve the purpose of the assailant, then I fear we will have turned back the clock of international order..." (Address to the nation, 20 February 1957).
 

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1967

Israel claims that its attack against Egypt in June 1967 was a defensive measure to prevent Gamal Abdel Nasser from attacking.

Facts

Israel began planning the re-conquest of the Sinai soon after its forced withdrawal in 1956. In 1967, as in 1956, Israel waited for favorable circumstances to put its plan into action.

In 1967, however, Israel had a greater appreciation of the necessity and utility of a sophisticated publicity campaign, waged through the international media, to convince Western opinion that any Israeli military actions could only be construed as acts of self-defense. This publicity campaign was two-pronged: stressing that the Arabs attacked Israel and that Israel was in danger of annihilation. Both presuppositions were patently false.

In the early hours of 5 June 1967, Israel announced to a credulous Western world that the Egyptian Air Force had initiated hostile actions. In fact, it was the Israelis who had attacked the Egyptians and destroyed virtually the entire Egyptian Air Force while its fleet was still on the ground.

General Matityahu Peled, one of the architects of the Israeli conquest, committed what the Israeli public considered blasphemy when he admitted the true thinking of the Israeli leadership:

"The thesis that the danger of genocide was hanging over us in June 1967 and that Israel was fighting for its physical existence is only bluff, which was born and developed after the war" (Ha'aretz, 19 March 1972).

Israeli Air Force General Ezer Weizmann declared bluntly that "there was never any danger of extermination" (Ma'ariv, 19 April 1972). Mordechai Bentov, a former Israeli cabinet minister, also dismissed the myth of Israel's imminent annihilation: "All this story about the danger of extermination has been a complete invention and has been blown up a posteriori to justify the annexation of new Arab territories" (Al Hamishmar, 14 April 1972).

After the 1967 war Israel, claimed it invaded because of imminent Arab attack. It claimed that Nasser's closing of the Straits of Tiran constituted an act of war. It also cited Syrian shelling on the demilitarized zone of the Syrian-Israeli border. The claim that the Arabs were going to invade appears particularly ludicrous when one recalls that a third of Egypt's army was in Yemen and therefore quite unprepared to launch a war. On the Syrian front, Israel was engaging in threats and provocations that evidenced many similarities to its behavior in the lead up to the Gaza raid of 1955.

The demilitarized zone on the Syrian-Israeli border was established by agreement on 20 July 1949. Israeli provocations were incessant and enabled Israel to increase and extend its sovereignty by encroachment over the entire Arab area. According to one UN Chief of Staff, Arab villagers were evicted and their homes destroyed (E.L.M. Burns, Between Arab and Israeli, Ivan Obolensky, 1962, pp. 113-114). Another Chief of Staff described how the Israelis ploughed up Arab land and "advanced the 'frontier' to their own advantage" (Carl von Horn, Soldiering for Peace, Cassell, 1966, p. 79).

Israel attempted to evict the Arabs living on the Golan and annex the demilitarized zone. When the Syrians inevitably responded, Israel claimed that "peaceful" Israeli farmers were being shelled by the Syrians. Unmentioned was the fact that the "farmers" were armed and using tractors and farm equipment to encroach on the demilitarized zone (David Hirst, The Gun and the Olive Branch: the Roots of Violence in the Middle East, Faber and Faber, 1984, pp. 213-15). This was part of a "premeditated Israeli policy [..] to get all the Arabs out of the way by fair means or foul."

Shortly after the Syrian response on 7 April 1967, the Israeli Air Force attacked Syria, shooting down six planes, hitting thirty fortified positions and killing about 100 people (Hirst, op. cit., p. 214). It was unlikely that any Syrian guns would have been fired if not for Israel's provocation.

Israel's need for water also played a role in the 1967 attack. The invasion completed Israel's encirclement of the headwaters of the Upper Jordan River, its capture of the West Bank and the two aquifers arising there, which currently supply all the groundwater for northern and central Israel.

The Israelis followed-up their massive retaliation with stern warnings. On 11 May 1967, General Yitzhak Rabin said on Israeli radio: "The moment is coming when we will march on Damascus to overthrow the Syrian Government" (Godfrey Jansen, "New Light on the 1967 War", Daily Star, London, 15, 22, 26 November 1973). Syria sought Egypt's assistance under their Mutual Defense Pact of November 1966. Nasser could not afford to stand idly by. He ordered the removal of the small UN force stationed in Sinai and closed the Straits of Tiran. This action provided the casus belli that Israel soon invoked.

Nasser's move was a gesture of solidarity with Syria and no threat to Israel's economy or its security. The closure of the Straits did not force Israel into war. Claims of economic strangulation were absurd since only 5 percent of Israel's trade depended on free movement through the Straits of Tiran. No Israeli merchant vessel had passed through the Straits during the previous two years (Michael Howard and Robert Hunter, Israel and the Arab World: the Crisis of 1967, Adelphi Papers 41, Institute for Strategic Studies, 1967, p. 24).

In sum, the threat to Israel's survival in 1967 was non-existent. According to the British newspaper The Observer, Nasser's purpose was clearly "to deter Israel rather than provoke it to a fight" (The Observer, London, 4 June 1967). New York Times columnist James Reston reported that "Egypt does not war [...] certainly is not ready for war" (New York Times, 4 and 5 June 1967).

The Israelis themselves were perfectly aware of this, given their sophisticated military intelligence capabilities. Later, in the first few days of the war, they were so concerned that their plans for attacking Syria would be discovered that they deliberately attacked the USS Liberty, killing 33 American sailors, in an attempt to prevent it from monitoring war preparations.

A few months after the war, Yitzhak Rabin remarked: "I do not think Nasser wanted war. The two divisions he sent to the Sinai on 14 May would not have been sufficient to launch an offensive against Israel. He knew it and we knew it" (Le Monde, 29 February 1968).

Israeli General Peled was even more frank: "To pretend that the Egyptian forces massed on our frontiers were in a position to threaten the existence of Israel constitutes an insult not only to the intelligence of anyone capable of analyzing this sort of situation, but above all an insult to the Zahal [Israeli army]" (Ha'aretz, 19 March 1972).

Finally, in 1982, the Israelis admitted that they had started the war (although official Zionist propaganda in the United States still does not acknowledge this fact). Prime Minister Menachem Begin, in a speech delivered at the Israeli National Defense College, clearly stated that: "The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him" (Jerusalem Post, 20 August 1982).
 

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1973

Written by Arjan El Fassed.

Facts

After coming to power in late 1970, Egyptian President Anwar Sadat indicated to the United States that he was willing to negotiate with Israel to resolve the conflict in exchange for Egyptian territory lost in 1967. In February 1971 he offered a full peace treaty to Israel, which it rejected, although international consensus supported the Sadat offer which conformed to the US position (John Kimche, There Could Have Been Peace, Dial, 1973, p. 286). When these overtures were ignored by Washington and Tel Aviv, Egypt and Syria launched an coordinated action in October 1973 against Israeli forces occupying the Egyptian Sinai and Syrian Golan Heights.

The devastating defeat of 1967 left Israel in control of the West Bank, Gaza, the Golan Heights and the Sinai. Israel rapidly moved to incorporate these occupied territories into its domain. Israel illegally annexed Jerusalem and began establishing colonial settlements in all the occupied territories.

It was clear that the Arab World could not go on indefinitely watching the Israel expel Egyptians, Syrians and Palestinians while installing Jewish settlers in their thousands. By 1973 nearly 100 settlements had been established and hundreds of thousands of Palestinians had been displaced, expelled, imprisoned or deported.

On 6 October 1973 the Egyptian and Syrian armies attacked Israeli positions in the Sinai and on the Golan Heights in an attempt to liberate their territory occupied by Israel. The Secretary-General of the Arab League explained the Arab action:

"In a final analysis, Arab action is justifiable, moral and valid under Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations. There is no aggression, no attempt to acquire new territories. But to restore and liberate all the occupied territories is a duty for all able self-respecting peoples" (Sunday Times, 14 October 1973).
 

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1982

In 1982, Israel claimed that its military objective was to attack, not Lebanon, but the Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO) in Lebanon in order to 'safeguard the Galilee region from enemy artillery and infiltration'.

Facts

The facts are that Israel invaded Lebanon on 6 June 1982 in order to totally destroy the PLO, not only its insignificant military capability, but also all of its civilian functions. The other basic war aim was described by Israeli Minister of Defense Ariel Sharon:

"The bigger the blow and the more we damage the PLO infrastructure, the more the Arabs in Judea and Samaria, [the Biblical name for the West Bank used for obvious political reasons by Israel] and Gaza will be ready to negotiate with us"
-- The Times, 5 August 1982 --

Israel had hoped that, with the destruction of the PLO, Lebanon could be ripped from its Arab moorings in order to create an Israeli puppet regime of pro-Israeli Maronite Christian Lebanese, a minority of the population. As early as 1954, David Ben-Gurion had urged that one of the "central duties" of Israel's foreign policy should be to push the Maronite Christians to "proclaim a Christian state". Moshe Dayan had said that:

"[the] Israeli army will enter Lebanon, will occupy the necessary territory, and will create a Christian regime which will ally itself with Israel"
-- Livia Rokach, Israel's Sacred Terrorism, op.cit., pp. 24-30.
Also see, Laura Zittrain Eisenberg: My Enemy's Enemy: Zionist Intentions in Lebanon.

The Israeli claim that it had invaded Lebanon "in self-defense" is false. Between August 1981 and May 1982 the PLO maintained a truce, sponsored by the United States and Saudi Arabia, on Lebanon's southern border. Israel, on the other hand, violated the truce 2,777 times (United Nations records cited by Robin Wright in the Christian Science Monitor, 18 March 1982; Alexander Cockburn and James Ridgeway, Village Voice, 22 June 1982). [For the most thorough, as well as the most compelling treatment of Israel's invasion of Lebanon, see Robert Fisk, Pity the Nation]

Once again Israel only needed an excuse to make war. This time the casus belli was the attempted assassination of the Israeli ambassador to London, an act determined by Scotland Yard to have been conducted by the PLO-dissent Abu Nidal group. In any case, Israel's excuse was so flimsy that, for the first time in the Arab-Israeli conflict, Israeli propaganda was not taken on board without question by the international community.

At first the Israelis operated under the pretense that they were only securing their borders and stated that they did not intend to go beyond a 25 mile limit. But the truth was very different as described by the former chief of Israeli military intelligence, Aharon Yariv:

"I know in fact that going to Beirut was included in the original military plan"
-- Jerusalem Post, 24 September 1982.

Israel's invasion of Lebanon has no validity in international law. Israel thus had no grounds to rely on the provision of the Charter of the United Nations concerning self-defense, while the means used to effect the invasion clearly lacked proportionality. The cease-fire of July 1981 had been observed scrupulously. The objective of the 1982 invasion and war, therefore, was to achieve certain political and strategic aims at a high cost, which included breaches of some of the most fundamental rules of international law.

As for the Israeli justification for the conduct of hostilities, the principle of military necessity cannot excuse the massive number of civilian casualties which resulted from Israeli attacks on refugee camps, hospitals, schools, cultural, religious and charitable institutions, commercial and industrial premises, Lebanese government and PLO offices, diplomatic premises and urban areas generally.

Particularly heinous was the August 8th bombardment of Beirut by the Israeli Air Force, which some correspondents compared to the WWII bombing of Dresden in its ferocity. Hundreds of innocent Beiruti civilians died as a result of this war crime. [See Thomas Friedman, From Beirut to Jerusalem; Robert Fisk, Pity the Nation; Jean Said Makdisi, Beirut Fragments; Chris Giannou, Besieged: A Doctor in Lebanon.]
 

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Yes Becky, and the American Indians started all of the wars with the U.S. government and the Iraqis and Vietnamese started the wars that forced the US to invade their countries. (Sarcasm)

Instead of spewing Zionist lying propaganda, why don't you do your homework and find out what really happened. I am convinced that you are not even interested in the truth and it makes me question your activism on every other issue.

Real Palestinians and real Hebrew speaking people are dying as a result of the policies of the Zionist government and the billions of dollars the U.S. government gives to them.
 

Becky hangs with the pro Israel Neo Con Artists and calls herself "left"!!!

Question for Becky: You say that "genocide is killing an entire people". Ok, so it is not genocide till the last one's gone? Ok, so as long as there is one Palestinean still standing, it is not genocide? What is it until that point? ETHNIC CLEANSING???

Next question: It is clear the Zionists would love to wipe out the Palestinean people in a day and a half. Only public opinion and perception is keeping them from doing this. Isn't this true?
Sharon likes a "kinder and gentler" genocide. Or more rather, a "softer, gradual" ethnic cleansing.

The balance of power is not equal between Palestine and Israel. Israel could NOT continue it's ILLEGAL settlement and OCCUPATION of Palestine were it not for OUR TAX DOLLARS.

While this country is in SHAMBLES, schools falling apart, no health care, no jobs, services being cut right and left, BECKY SUPPORTS FURTHER BILLIONS OF DOLLARS SIPHONED FROM THE UNSUSPECTING, UNKNOWING AMERICAN PEOPLE TO FUND THE INDEPENDENT STATE OF ISRAEL.

Becky, you are living in America yet your allegiance is to a foriegn power.

Not only that, you are assisting in sucking America DRY for Israel's Illegal occupation and ETHNIC CLEANSING PROGRAM.

YOU ARE THEREFORE A TRAITOR TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

Your allegiance is to another Country. You are a traitor just as the Neocon reactionary Pro Israel spies and "lobbyists" are like Richard Prince of Darkness Perle and the others.

You are in very very bad company Becky. You are hanging with some of the most reactionary,pro war, pro US Imperialism, far right wing facsist idealogogues that are currently disgracing our country.

You call your self "left"? That is a crock of shit. Your about as "left" as Richard sicko Perle.

You are hereby exposed.
 

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To the Arabs Started: You wrote "The roots of the 1948 war go as far back as the first recognition on the part of the Palestinians that the Zionists wished to establish a Jewish state on their land."

BECKY: They didn't call themselves "Palestinians" then. They called themselves Arabs and were rallying for the pan-Arab State which would allow no one but Arabs or Muslims to live there. They still are. In 1948, the Palestinians were the Jews.

YOU WROTE: "In late 1947 the United Nations proposed that Palestine....

BECKY: Actually, in 1947 they had already partioned the British Palestine Mandate into what was to be two Arab and Jewish states. The Arab State formed earlier was Jordan which is a monarchy and currently rules a population that is 60% Palestinian Arab. BTW No Jew is allowed to live there ever.


YOU WROTE: It was to be divided into a Palestinian Arab state and a Jewish state. The UN
Partition Plan recommended that 55 percent of Palestine, and the most fertile region,...

BECKY: Actually when the early Zionists bought land near Tel Aviv and Haifa it was a low-lying swamp and malaria ridden. After Jewish kibbutzem were established to drain the swamp, they found the land to be incredibly fertile.

YOU WROTE: ... be given to the Jewish settlers who compromised 30 percent of the population."

BECKY: The British had put a stop on Jewish migration to Palestine stemming what would have been a flood of Jewish immigrants by that time.

The remaining 45 percent of Palestine...

BECKY: You are forgetting that the much larger state of Jordan had already been formed and this was the second time "Palestine" was to be divided between a Jewish and an Arab/Muslim state.

YOU WROTE:.... was to comprise a home for the other 70 percent of the population who were Palestinians.

BECKY: Not including all the Palestinian Arabs who already had been given a state in Jordan.

You have to do some real strange math to come up with these kind of numbers. The bottom line is this--do the Jewish people have a right to have any kind of state at all in the Mideast?

More later if I feel like it.

P.S. Are you cutting and pasting the entire book? Why not put some of your own ideas out. At least Steve writes his own copy and signs his own name.
 

Re: Zionism, Nazism, and Radical Islam -A History Lesson For Becky Johnson

Steve: Comparing the American Indians to the Jewish RETURN to their ancestral homeland does not work for fairly obvious reasons. The Europeans who invaded North America killing Indians and seizing their land did not formerly live there, had not built a temple, the center of their religion which had stood there TWICE for about 500 years each time. The Europeans had not been reading and holding as holy a scripture that told them that the land had been given to them with exact borders by their God and toasted every year "Next year in Jerusalem!" The Europeans did not still speak the ancient language of the inhabitants from 3300 yrs ago until 2000 yrs ago. You aren't able to find ancient European artifacts just about everywhere all over the North American continent. The Europeans had not previously named all of the areas thousands of years ago, only to have them renamed by invaders. No European had ever had ancestors who had been banished from the American continent. And no Europeans had been living in North America for the past two-thousand years despite pogroms, massacres, and the quite regular terrorist attacks maintaining a continuace presence because they believed it was their land given to them by their God.
 

Israel does NOT illegally occupy Palestinian land

Response to Question: UN resolution 242 was passed after the 1967 war. The resolution recommended a "land for peace" solution.

Resolution 242 does NOT say that Israel's entry into and administration of conquered lands (The Sinai,the Golan Hgts, the West Bank, & Gaza) is "an illegal occupation."

Resolution 242 DOES say that Israel's entry is legal because Israel had fought a defensive rather than offensive war. It expected Israel to administer the territories until a peaceful resolution could be reached.

Resolution 242 does NOT call for Israel to withdraw from conquered lands as a pre-condition for peace negotiations.

Resolution 242 DOES call for ALL nations involved to negotiate a peaceful resolution, not for unilateral action by one state. It calls for belligerant nations to commit to a just and lasting peace and to recognize each others sovereignty. It calls for Israel to withdraw from territories AFTER hostile nations commit to peace.

Resolution 242 does NOT call for Israel to withdraw from all areas conquered in 1967.

Resolution 242 DOES call for withdrawal from SOME territories. The UN expected Israel to redefine borders for its own security needs. These were expected to include portions of the conquered territory.

Resolution 242 does NOT call for a Palestinian "right of return"

Resolution 242 DOES call for a just settlement of the refugee problem. This meant Jewish refugees as well as Arab refugees, and refugees in other countries as well as in the territories.

Resolution 242 does NOT call for a Palestinian state.

Resolution 242 DOES NOT EVEN MENTION the possibility of an independent Palestinian state.

When UN resolution 242 was passed the PLO denounced the resolution. The Arab League rejected all principles and passed the 1967 Khartoum Declaration which said "No peace...no recognition...no negotiations with Israel"
Israel accepted the resolution.

So much for an "illegal occupation" of "Palestinian" lands!

In 1979, Israel and Egypt signed a peace treaty that included Israel giving up 91% of the land it had conquered in 1967.

In 2001 Israel offered the Palestinians 96% of the territories and self-rule. The PA rejected the offer.
 

Re: Zionism, Nazism, and Radical Islam -A History Lesson For Becky Johnson

Further response to Question:

YOU WROTE: "so as long as there is one Palestinean still standing, it is not genocide? What is it until that point? ETHNIC CLEANSING???"

BECKY: The terms we are discussing are a matter of degree. There is murder, serial murder, mass murder, massacres, and genocide ---each a degree greater in scope. Israel is NO WHERE NEAR COMMITTING GENOCIDE on the Palestinians. Here on Indymedia I read a year ago that Sharon was going to use the start of the Iraqi war as cover to genocide the Palestinians. It didn't happen. When are you people going to stop crying wolf? Israel is not even engaged in ethnic cleansing as you put it. Israel is about 20% Arab and they have full citizenship rights. The Palestinians are NOT Israeli citizens, yet they enjoy more rights to due process in Israeli courts than the Mexicans do in California.

YOU WROTE: "It is clear the Zionists would love to wipe out the Palestinean people in a day and a half."

BECKY: I don't think that's clear at all--not from the Israeli govt. nor the man on the street in Israel. Some do call for some sort of transfer of population. I am not one of them. I would only support this if it were voluntary. As for ethnic cleansing, Jordan has ethnically cleansed every single Jew from their entire country without a peep from you. Leftists often call for the removal of "Jewish settlements" on the West Bank and Gaza even though some of these have been there for centuries. But that's NOT ethnic cleansing???

YOU WROTE: The balance of power is not equal between Palestine and Israel. Israel could NOT continue it's ILLEGAL settlement and OCCUPATION of Palestine were it not for OUR TAX DOLLARS.

BECKY: First, there is no Palestine. 2nd, see above for info on UN res. 242 to explain why the occupation is not illegal. And I didn't even go into the Oslo Accords which gave the PA total control to civilly administer 95% of the Palestinian people. Hence, no occupation. As for our tax dollars---that was what the US agreed to in the 1979 peace treaty between Israel and Egypt. Do you really want to end that US committment which has brought peace between Egypt and Israel for 25 years? Besides, with Bush spending 87 billion dollars in the latest installment for the war in Iraq, the 3 billion a year to Israel (and 2 billion a year to Egypt which you forgot to mention) sounds like peanuts by comparison.

YOU WROTE: "you are assisting in sucking America DRY for Israel's Illegal occupation and ETHNIC CLEANSING PROGRAM."

BECKY: The Palestinian population in Gaza and the West Bank has increased 7-fold since 1949. If Israel is committing ethnic cleansing as you charge, then they are doing a piss-poor job of it.

YOU WROTE: "YOU ARE THEREFORE A TRAITOR TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA."

BECKY: Must we degrade to name-calling? I support the US continuing to live by the conditions of the 1979 peace treaty between Egypt & Israel. This hardly makes me a traitor to the US.

YOU WROTE: "Your allegiance is to another Country. You are a traitor just as the Neocon reactionary Pro Israel spies and "lobbyists" are like Richard Prince of Darkness Perle and the others."

BECKY: I simply support justice for the State of Israel. To me it is a matter of morality, ethics, and justice. I too want to see an end to the conflict, but we differ on our understanding of the historical facts and what methods should be employed to end the conflict.

YOU WROTE: "You call your self "left"? That is a crock of shit. Your (sic) about as "left" as Richard sicko Perle."

BECKY: I completely disagree with Richard Perle's assessment of the Iraq war.

YOU WROTE:"You are hereby exposed."

BECKY: I have given my REAL NAME and real e-mail address all along. You HIDE behind a pseudonym and fling insults. You are a coward.
 

Re: Zionism, Nazism, and Radical Islam -A History Lesson For Becky Johnson

Becky needs a good dose of Acid to open up her nuerons!!!
 

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